Anyone willing to admit they're already starting to relax restrictions?

Sober Crappy Chemis

lawred2 wrote: »

Are you in an at risk category?

If not - then the chances of you dying are exceptionally small.

I am, but even if I wasn't I'd still stick with the restrictions because I'm not a believer in civil liberty big brother silly conspiracies.

wakka12

Yeh have to say I feel more relaxed about it all. When I go outside there isnt that same 'on edge' atmosphere in the air anymore that was around for a few weeks

Kintarō Hattori

Would love to go out and about and let our 3 year old out to play and socialise with the other kids in the estate but we've been keeping to ourselves. The neighbours haven't though and have been meeting outside as usual and letting their kids play together. These of course are the same people who on social media post about social distancing, going for the long haul etc. I do genuinely wonder sometimes if they are deluded.

Fleetwoodmac

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why? A lot of the things that you are doing are not necessary nor prescribed by the government (unless every member of you family is classified as vulnerable and you are all cocooning, and even then the respirator is taking it to unnecessary level)

I cant work out whether this post is intended to be a joke.

I think it's naive to always by guided by the government directives who in turn are guided by WHO. Remember the fiasco regarding whether masks are necessary or not or the now infamous WHO human to human transmission. The onus should be on people to trust their own intuition and do what they feel is necessary to keep their family safe. The scientists are learning on their feet and goalposts moving all the time... do shoes/pets/groceries carry the virus.. research is so variable. I think it's unfair to judge someone and question their mental health when they are simply taking measures to stay safe.

facehugger99

lawred2 wrote: »

Are you in an at risk category?

If not - then the chances of you dying are exceptionally small.

Your chances of dying are actually 100% in the long term.

ShatterAlan

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes, I went to the shop yesterday and found myself getting sloppy. The restrictions are really hard. We're a social species and dancing around people feels really weird. And, like, I was already adhering to some of the restrictions pre-covid because of being immunocompromised. I can't imagine how hard it is for people who are not used to anything like that.

But I guess yesterday was a wake up call to cop myself on and be more careful.

How do we actually know if this distancing is even effective or if it isn't just bullsh!t?


If the powers that be know exactly how this virus transmits and from what distance they must have known that for a long time.



How on Earth can this virus be spread by shaking hands but not by touching elbows or fist bumping? That makes ZERO sense.



I'm sure some armchair epidemiologists will enlighten me.

lawred2

facehugger99 wrote: »

Your chances of dying are actually 100% in the long term.

Amazing

cavemeister

Del Griffith wrote: »

I'm not consciously but I do find that I don't check the daily numbers or news anymore, it's no longer really at the forefront of my mind and I'm pretty lax about the 2km.

I don't act the bollox like organise a party or something but if I need to go do something, I will do it.

This can't go on months/indefinitely, I suspect (although they mightn't admit it) that people will tire of it and just start relaxing themselves bit by bit as this goes on.

The leaders of our country are telling us not to travel beyond 2km. And as usual, so many Irish gob****es say, "not me, rules don't apply to be.. shur.. it will be grand."

If we are still on full lockdown beyond May 5th, you, like so many lately, are part the reason.

lawred2

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

I am, but even if I wasn't I'd still stick with the restrictions because I'm not a believer in civil liberty big brother silly conspiracies.

Nor me - but it isn't worrying about death that's keeping me indoors - it's carrying this around for other people who would be at risk...

Rodin

I see lots of cyclists every day flouting the rules.
Out in the country miles from houses.

Saw group of 3 yesterday.
No fear of being caught.

Also lots more cars at the local forest park, again well away from houses.

And why should anyone obey the rules when the travellers get a free pass ?

wally79

ShatterAlan wrote: »

How do we actually know if this distancing is even effective or if it isn't just bullsh!t?


If the powers that be know exactly how this virus transmits and from what distance they must have known that for a long time.



How on Earth can this virus be spread by shaking hands but not by touching elbows or fist bumping? That makes ZERO sense.



I'm sure some armchair epidemiologists will enlighten me.

Are fist bumps or touching elbows condoned officially?

Part of the handshake thing is to do with touching your face and how much we do it without realising. I think fist bumps are probably the same as a handshake so couldn’t see that being ok.

However, it’s tough if not impossible to touch your face with your elbow

wally79

Rodin wrote: »

And why should anyone obey the rules when the travellers get a free pass ?

If you take your home with you how can you be more than 2km from it?

Sammy2012

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Was out for my weekly shop this morning and there was many more people about. Lots of kids out with parents too.

Single parents, or families where one member is an essential worker have no choice but to bring their kids with them.

wally79

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Single parents, or families where one member is an essential worker have no choice but to bring their kids with them.

Single parents have to bring kids but not many essential workers are in 24/7. You can schedule shopping around shifts

lawred2

Deleted User wrote: »

Single parents, or families where one member is an essential worker have no choice but to bring their kids with them.

That excuse only holds for single parents.

Essential workers are not at work 24/7... My wife has to go into a hospital - there's still plenty of time outside that for one of us to go to the shops

joe40

ShatterAlan wrote: »

How do we actually know if this distancing is even effective or if it isn't just bullsh!t?


If the powers that be know exactly how this virus transmits and from what distance they must have known that for a long time.



How on Earth can this virus be spread by shaking hands but not by touching elbows or fist bumping? That makes ZERO sense.



I'm sure some armchair epidemiologists will enlighten me.

Why do you need armchair epidemiologists, why not listen to actual epidemiologists.

ShatterAlan

ShatterAlan wrote: »

What the F is it with takeaways?


When I was growing up we NEVER had takeaways. My mum cooked everyday and she was a fulltime night nurse. Every couple of months we might have had fish and chips on a Friday if she was flush from Thursday's paycheque with overtime and too knackered to start boiling potatoes.


FWIW, I peeled the carrots because my little brother would have skinned himself. He was on spud scrubbing patrol. Hate that

You are living in another era my friend. I take it you aren't married?

Fleetwoodmac

wally79 wrote: »

Are fist bumps or touching elbows condoned officially?

Part of the handshake thing is to do with touching your face and how much we do it without realising. I think fist bumps are probably the same as a handshake so couldn’t see that being ok.

However, it’s tough if not impossible to touch your face with your elbow

But you do sneeze into your elbow which would make touching elbows a bit risky wouldn't it

Padre_Pio

Rodin wrote: »

I see lots of cyclists every day flouting the rules.
Out in the country miles from houses.

Saw group of 3 yesterday.
No fear of being caught.

Also lots more cars at the local forest park, again well away from houses.

And why should anyone obey the rules when the travellers get a free pass ?

If I'm on an empty beach, does it make any difference if I travel 2km or 6km?

a_squirrelman

weldoninhio wrote: »

What percentage of people that get the disease die?? The disease is not death ffs. Scaremongering and people seeing scaremongering is probably the biggest reason people are getting lax about it. The vast majority that get it, won't die.

794 people have died from it in Ireland, people need to suck it up and get used to a few months at home. It isn't scaremongering if anyone's grandparents stay living. People getting lax is because they are selfish and short sighted.

ShaShaBear

My husband does a weekly shop and goes to the very local shop for milk and bread as needed. Myself (pregnant) and my daughters (asthma and metabolic disease) have not gone past our front garden since March 12th, with the exception of my booking appointment in the hospital. As I don't drive, we were all forced to go together and my husband and kids had to sit in the car for three hours while I braved the hospital alone. Obviously couldn't strip naked in the car park and boil wash myself, and was given a heap of folders to take home so I just had to get back into the car and off home with us. Back in the door and haven't left since.

It would be impossible to isolate any one of us within this house if we were to be infected - my daughters are both under 6 so we cannot lock them in a room away from everyone else. Both would likely have to be hospitalised and I can assure you neither of them would emotionally recover from that trauma without so much as a visit from mum or dad. The risk to myself and my husband with regards to death are actually quite small, but at the same time I have absolutely no desire to risk becoming dead, a widow or making my children orphans.

The amount of people locally who are flaunting disregard for the rules make it riskier for my husband who is just trying to keep his family safe.

JimmyVik

We were a bit like the OP.
Following the rules in general but getting a little relaxed about it. eg going for walks more than once a day, but not that bad.

One of them a few doors down just got a positive test result today and they've been following the rules.
They dont know where they got it
They had been waiting on test results for 6 days now. Two of them very sick and the children coughing. They got the results of the first persons test this morning. Waiting on another one.

I think all of us around here are going to be much more strict now.

Though there is one idiot now that I think of it who gets way too close when chatting to everyone else. You can see people trying to back away and he just walks forward again.

They should never have said you have to be within 2 meters for 15 minutes at the start. People think now if they set the stopwatch for 14 minutes they are fine.

eggy81

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

I am not,

Family have not left our house since it started.

I travel to work,
i do the shopping,
wear full respirator when doing shopping,
wear new disposable gloves on entry,
sanitise gloves at every available sanitising point,
discard gloves when finished,
wipe all food packaging down with iso propyl before it enters house,
leave clothes in hallway in box,
shower immediately,
Dont go anywhere.

And i will keep doing it for as long as necessary.

Sounds like your in Chernobyl

Cal4567

Yes, like a lot here beginning to notice some in the supermarkets slipping. No longer keeping their distance, stopping for a chat with other shoppers, while I am ever more concerned to be close to them. Only noticed that this last week.

Going out for a walk early most days, 8am for an hour or so. Hardly anyone around then. We've been very careful with post arriving at the door, wiping down everything and using gloves while we put the food just bought away. Then washing hands, must do that numerous times during the day.

Doing everything we can not to get this. No desire to meet anybody outside the family. Use Whats App and Skype when necessary. Had 3-4 takeaways but we all were careful and even then, hand washing.

Can I admit, I am even enjoying the challenge to sty lockdown. Don't feel my civil liberties are being eroded either. I'm staying safe.

GreeBo

Padre_Pio wrote: »

What a ridiculous comment.
It's selfish to exercise is it?

Should I stop going to the kitchen incase I fall down the stairs? Stop using the kettle in case I burn myself. I could drown in the bath.

Its selfish to exercise outside of the government guidelines..I thought that much was obvious.

And if you think taking a bath is as risky as going for a cycle up the mountains on your own, then you clearly dont know how to bathe properly.

ellejay

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Me and my family are sticking to the restrictions except for the exercise bit. I cycle and have ventured further than the 2km limit but I stick to lonely rural country roads near me. Today I went 16km up into the mountains and never met a single car or other person...it was pure bliss.

Is the solitude because everyone else is obeying the rules

seanl77

BrianD3 wrote: »

Was in Tesco this morning for my weekly shop and it was very different compared to last week, complacency has definitely set in. Shop and carpark were quiet but people have obviously gone back to being too important/in too much of a hurry to keep away from each other. Nipping into other people's personal space to grab items, items handled and put back, more people shopping in twos, very little glove or mask use. To top it all off, when I went back to my car which I had parked in an empty part of the car park, some fat knuckledragger was sitting in his van that he had parked right beside my car. Window open, shouting into his phone, spit flying everywhere.

Also on the subject of knuckledraggers, tinkers have started calling to the house again looking to clean gutters and do powerwashing. A bunch of them including children in the van.

100% agree with this, I work in a very busy tesco store and its been very noticeable the change in the last few days. We obviously still operate our social distancing, one in one out policy and clean trolleys etc. But the public have definitely relaxed, way fewer masks, trying to bring kids into the store. We now have to announce reminders over the speaker system that people are queuing outside, as customers are chatting and browsing in the aisles. Before this customers were flying around the store, now some are getting obnoxious about having to queue, being reminded of social distancing etc. It's obviously the minority acting this way, but there has definitely been a big change recently

GreeBo

zoe 3619 wrote: »

To be fair,he could hypothetically crash just as easily 1.5km from home.

Yep, but he probably wont need mountain rescue and several people to try and find him.

GreeBo

ShatterAlan wrote: »

How do we actually know if this distancing is even effective or if it isn't just bullsh!t?


If the powers that be know exactly how this virus transmits and from what distance they must have known that for a long time.



How on Earth can this virus be spread by shaking hands but not by touching elbows or fist bumping? That makes ZERO sense.



I'm sure some armchair epidemiologists will enlighten me.

1) Becuase its a virus that spreads between people, it doesnt up and fly around like a bird.
2) I have heard that up to 3 people worldwide are investigating COVID-19, maybe they have done some experiements?
3) Fist bumping?
4) You are welcome. Next time try Google.

Padre_Pio

GreeBo wrote: »

Its selfish to exercise outside of the government guidelines..I thought that much was obvious.

And if you think taking a bath is as risky as going for a cycle up the mountains on your own, then you clearly dont know how to bathe properly.

Maybe you don't know how to cycle properly?:pac: