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    #992
    SkepticQuark
    Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    FF have fallen to 14% in the polls. They are being told already what the electorate think of them.

    Martin is so hellbent on the Taoiseach target he can't see he is wrecking the party. One of the two FG or FF will disappear soon, the trends in their vote share shows that. 84% down to 44% now.

    TBH if anything FG will survive purely on the backs of perceived good management of the pandemic, Martin then takes over in a post-pandemic world and has to deliver a budget that both parties will insist will have to hurt working people again. The entire framework for their partnership is to avoid the perception of austerity, not to avoid austerity and with Brexit being yet again a threat to stability and them constantly harping on about the deficit the first budget Martin will deliver won't be rosy. I'm afraid of where the Greens would come out of a dynamic like that.


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    #993
    Redgirl82
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    FF have fallen to 14% in the polls. They are being told already what the electorate think of them.

    Martin is so hellbent on the Taoiseach target he can't see he is wrecking the party. One of the two FG or FF will disappear soon, the trends in their vote share shows that. 84% down to 44% now.

    The only poll that counts is the one in Feb.

    The narrative about Martin been so hell bent on Taoiseach he is wrecking party doesn’t really stand up when the party has to vote on decisions.

    It’s more fake news from rival parties.....

    One good term in office for FF and let see what seats they have in next election. If they have a bad run then it will be hard


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    #994
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    The only poll that counts is the one in Feb.

    The narrative about Martin been so hell bent on Taoiseach he is wrecking party doesn’t really stand up when the party has to vote on decisions.

    It’s more fake news from rival parties.....

    One good term in office for FF and let see what seats they have in next election. If they have a bad run then it will be hard

    Which would be a really good effort at defending the party if the criticisms and warnings about the next election weren't coming from within FF itself. Research is letting you down again.


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    #995
    Thelonious Monk
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    Scotland are doing some good work environmentally these days

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18470838.bonds-issued-help-unlock-1bn-protect-rare-species/

    wouldn't it be great if we could do something like this?
    A no brainer would be to take grazing sheep from lots of our uplands and let nature take its course. Sheep love tree sprouts they're very nutritious, and it's why we have no trees on our uplands. I know in the UK lamb accounts for 1.2% of calories consumed but they graze on 51% of the land over 200m. This is a subsidised industry too that doesn't make any money. There are plenty of no brainers to help biodiversity we just need to do it.


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    #996
    Redgirl82
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Which would be a really good effort at defending the party if the criticisms and warnings about the next election weren't coming from within FF itself. Research is letting you down again.

    Francie nobody has your insight into every party in Ireland. Also into the unionist community and who knows what else....

    The rest of us will just sit back and wait and see what happens over the next two weeks....


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    #997
    FrancieBrady
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    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    Francie nobody has your insight into every party in Ireland. Also into the unionist community and who knows what else....

    The rest of us will just sit back and wait and see what happens over the next two weeks....

    You just need to read the newspapers. :rolleyes:


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    #998
    Rows Grower
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    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    Francie nobody has your insight into every party in Ireland. Also into the unionist community and who knows what else....

    The rest of us will just sit back and wait and see what happens over the next two weeks....

    You're taking this cocooning/living in your own bubble to a new level altogether if you think Mehall won the election, but hey ho once you and Mehall are happy.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #999
    Redgirl82
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    You're taking this cocooning/living in your own bubble to a new level altogether if you think Mehall won the election, but hey ho once you and Mehall are happy.

    Who you vote for?


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    #1000
    Tell me how
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    FF have fallen to 14% in the polls. They are being told already what the electorate think of them.

    Martin is so hellbent on the Taoiseach target he can't see he is wrecking the party. One of the two FG or FF will disappear soon, the trends in their vote share shows that. 84% down to 44% now.

    I remember when people were talking about FG being disbanded after the 2002 GE such was their collapse as FF formed a government with 50 more seats than FG.

    If you think a party currently on 38 seats and one who is on 35 are likely to disappear soon then you don't understand the history of Irish politics.

    SF would be much more at risk in my view. Inexperienced at governing in a meaningful way and with plenty members more than capable of generating unpleasant headlines.


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    #1001
    Rows Grower
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    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    Who you vote for?

    That's the second time today you asked me that, why are you so nosy?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #1002
    Redgirl82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Redgirl82


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I remember when people were talking about FG being disbanded after the 2002 GE such was their collapse as FF formed a government with 50 more seats than FG.

    If you think a party currently on 38 seats and one who is on 35 are likely to disappear soon then you don't understand the history of Irish politics.

    SF would be much more at risk in my view. Inexperienced at governing in a meaningful way and with plenty members more than capable of generating unpleasant headlines.

    As Trump would say, they are just nasty comments, why would you say such a nasty comment

    Sinn Fein are yesterday’s chip paper at this stage! Irrelevant


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    #1003
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I remember when people were talking about FG being disbanded after the 2002 GE such was their collapse as FF formed a government with 50 more seats than FG.

    If you think a party currently on 38 seats and one who is on 35 are likely to disappear soon then you don't understand the history of Irish politics.

    SF would be much more at risk in my view. Inexperienced at governing in a meaningful way and with plenty members more than capable of generating unpleasant headlines.

    Their vote share is telling us exactly what is happening. They are now at the natural end of two party's who have practically been the same party for quite some time.
    First it was C&S, now a coalition, next logical step is a merger of some sort.


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    #1004
    Redgirl82
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    That's the second time today you asked me that, why are you so nosy?

    I asked earlier and you never responded, thought maybe you hadn’t seen, that’s all


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    #1005
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    As Trump would say, they are just nasty comments, why would you say such a nasty comment

    Sinn Fein are yesterday’s chip paper at this stage! Irrelevant

    Are you aware that your hero Mehall was haunted to scrape in on the sixth count and doesn't even have the backing of his own party membership while he is still vainly trying to grasp at slippery straws to become Leader of our Government?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #1006
    Redgirl82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Redgirl82


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Their vote share is telling us exactly what is happening. They are now at the natural end of two party's who have practically been the same party for quite some time.
    First it was C&S, now a coalition, next logical step is a merger of some sort.

    Says the Sinn Fein supporter, who is desperately spinning this story for weeks on end with nothing to back it up

    Fake news


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    #1007
    Redgirl82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Redgirl82


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    As Trump would say, they are just nasty comments, why would you say such a nasty comment

    Sinn Fein are yesterday’s chip paper at this stage! Irrelevant[/QUOTE]

    Are you aware that your hero Mehall was haunted to scrape in on the sixth count and doesn't even have the backing of his own party membership while he is still vainly trying to grasp at slippery straws to become Leader of our Government?

    Martin is not my hero by the way

    It doesn’t matter if he was in the 1st or 61st, he is still in and will probably to Taoiseach

    If he doesn’t have the backing then the government won’t be formed, so why you all so worried?

    Ask Hilary all about votes, she can tell you a thing or two


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    #1008
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    Says the Sinn Fein supporter, who is desperately spinning this story for weeks on end with nothing to back it up

    Fake news

    Nothing fake about their declining vote share. 84% to 44%.


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    #1009
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    Martin is not my hero by the way

    It doesn’t matter if he was in the 1st or 61st, he is still in and will probably to Taoiseach

    If he doesn’t have the backing then the government won’t be formed, so why you all so worried?

    Ask Hilary all about votes, she can tell you a thing or two

    I'm worried because he is not capable.

    He barely scraped in on the sixth count in the last general election even with the massive financial support his position as party leader afforded him and the backing of his lemmings like yourself.

    He's a busted flush, no matter how many times Tubbs brings him on air to lick his ring in public like the lap dog he is.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #1010
    Redgirl82
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    I'm worried because he is not capable.

    He barely scraped in on the sixth count in the last general election even with the massive financial support his position as party leader afforded him and the backing of his lemmings like yourself.

    He's a busted flush, no matter how many times Tubbs brings him on air to lick his ring in public like the lap dog he is.

    Not sure why you need to post with such vulgarity. Do you think it adds to your point?


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    #1011
    Redgirl82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Redgirl82


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Nothing fake about their declining vote share. 84% to 44%.

    and? who will end up Taoiseach?


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    #1012
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    Not sure why you need to post with such vulgarity. Do you think it adds to your point?

    Do you think lying makes your point valid?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #1013
    Redgirl82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Redgirl82


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Do you think lying makes your point valid?

    What did I lie about?


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    #1014
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Redgirl82 wrote: »
    We had election in Feb, votes all done. Democracy happened and FF won.

    This is where you lied.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #1015
    Buck_rodgers
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Buck_rodgers


    Greens are living in cloud cuckoo land, they lack the ability to see the world for how it really is, they should be kept as far away from power as possible, a country run by the Greens would be like Pol Pots Cambodia, just wait and see


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    #1016
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,526 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Scotland are doing some good work environmentally these days

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18470838.bonds-issued-help-unlock-1bn-protect-rare-species/

    wouldn't it be great if we could do something like this?
    A no brainer would be to take grazing sheep from lots of our uplands and let nature take its course. Sheep love tree sprouts they're very nutritious, and it's why we have no trees on our uplands. I know in the UK lamb accounts for 1.2% of calories consumed but they graze on 51% of the land over 200m. This is a subsidised industry too that doesn't make any money. There are plenty of no brainers to help biodiversity we just need to do it.

    The hills need sheep for vegitation management. they were over stocked 20 years ago, not so now. Without sheep, bracken would take over. Trees don't grow on mountainy land sheep or no sheep.

    The reference in the post above equating the Greens to Pol Pot is offensive. You do realise that regime was responsible for a genocide.


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    #1017
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Water John wrote: »
    The hills need sheep for vegitation management. they were over stocked 20 years ago, not so now. Without sheep, bracken would take over. Trees don't grow on mountainy land sheep or no sheep.

    The reference in the post above equating the Greens to Pol Pot is offensive. You do realise that regime was responsible for a genocide.

    It just shows how some are so out of touch of reality.


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    #1018
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,526 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I presume Micky you're referring to the second issue in my post.


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    #1019
    Buck_rodgers
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Buck_rodgers


    Water John wrote: »

    The reference in the post above equating the Greens to Pol Pot is offensive. You do realise that regime was responsible for a genocide.

    Wait until the Greens get power in a country and see the effects of their hair brained policies, it will be disastrous


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    #1020
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Water John wrote: »
    I presume Micky you're referring to the second issue in my post.

    Sorry, it wasn’t your post i was referring to. It was the post you were replying to.


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    #1021
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,526 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I have a strong belief in science and facts. So it doesn't matter which side uses an argument that isn't fact and research based, I will correct it to the best of my knowledge.
    I believe we need to alter our environmental degredation of the planet, but the actions must be based on facts.


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