Off Topic Thread 5.0

molloyjh

I'm not getting a good feeling here. If its really this close then Trump can pull it out of the bag. Biden needs wider margins than we're seeing I think. What a mess if a country.

kuang1

My favourite quote of the night so far :
"sometimes you get a big dump and it changes everything"

Paul Smeenus

kuang1 wrote: »

My favourite quote of the night so far :
"sometimes you get a big dump and it changes everything"

So, so true

kuang1

CNN touchscreen guy driving me nuts... He keeps comparing Biden's total votes in districts to Hilarys total 4 years ago WITHOUT acknowledging the change in Trump's total from 4 years ago to now.

Biden scoring 20,000 more votes in x County compared to Hilary 4 years ago is no good if Trump is scoring 21,000 more.
(turnout a lot higher now than 4 years ago)

aloooof

The early voting is making this even more difficult to interpret.

kuang1

aloooof wrote: »

The early voting is making this even more difficult to interpret.

Odds changing a bit... Biden 8/13 Trump 5/4

molloyjh

Looking like Biden is going to lose Florida. Ohio will be important. Early counting had Biden out in front by a good bit but thats narrowed since. He's just ahead in Texas. If he can win both of those it would be good news. Please be good news.

aloooof

kuang1 wrote: »

Odds changing a bit... Biden 8/13 Trump 5/4

Trump shortened?

kuang1

aloooof wrote: »

Trump shortened?

Yup.

kuang1

molloyjh wrote: »

Looking like Biden is going to lose Florida. Ohio will be important. Early counting had Biden out in front by a good bit but thats narrowed since. He's just ahead in Texas. If he can win both of those it would be good news. Please be good news.

Texas unlikely to go Biden's way now. His early lead needed to be bigger.

kuang1

8/11 & 11/10 now.
Trump shortening further

molloyjh

kuang1 wrote: »

Texas unlikely to go Biden's way now. His early lead needed to be bigger.

Yeah. Ohio starting to look the same. This really isn't looking good at all.

aloooof

Beginning to look ominously familiar...

kuang1

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah. Ohio starting to look the same. This really isn't looking good at all.

I was gonna hit the hay at 2.
Couldn't sleep much with this going on.

North carolina not looking good now either. Biden was ahead by 208,000 votes with 70% counted.
Now 78% counted, his lead is 126,000.

kuang1

Biden 6/5, trump 4/6.

Bed.

molloyjh

kuang1 wrote: »

I was gonna hit the hay at 2.
Couldn't sleep much with this going on.

North carolina not looking good now either. Biden was ahead by 208,000 votes with 70% counted.
Now 78% counted, his lead is 126,000.

Yeah, he was always going to do well in the early counts due to the postal voting. It doesn't look like its been enough.

Its getting depressing now.

errlloyd

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah, he was always going to do well in the early counts due to the postal voting. It doesn't look like its been enough.

Its getting depressing now.

I don't get it though, because in many places the postal votes are the late ones, not the early ones. This is literally on a county by county basis in PA, where some counties opened them today and some will open tomorrow.

molloyjh

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't get it though, because in many places the postal votes are the late ones, not the early ones. This is literally on a county by county basis in PA, where some counties opened them today and some will open tomorrow.

AFAIK most opened and counted before today, hence Biden having a big lead in Ohio early on which Trump has now moved ahead in. Some counties and states didn't open until today, but not sure how many.

Either way I'm going to bed. The best we can hope for today is that it comes down to Pennsylvania, which we won't know about for days. But I think the orange buffoon is getting in again. Which is terrifying. How almost a quarter of a million dead isn't enough to oust this guy is beyond me, never mind everything else.

MaybeMaybe

A lot of red on the map this morning.

Bazzo

MaybeMaybe wrote: »

A lot of red on the map this morning.

Map always looks very red even when Democrats win by a large margin, big rural States with small populations are mostly solid republican.

sydthebeat

I'm quite worried trump is going to get over the line

Bazzo

sydthebeat wrote: »

I'm quite worried trump is going to get over the line

It's tight enough at the moment that it's hard not to be worried but need to be aware of the "red mirage" we were warned about. It seems like doors are closing for trump at the moment, NYT gives Biden a 60% chance of picking up one of North Carolina or Georgia which are both very close races and that would be very bad news for trump, but even losing both is not fatal for Biden. He's looking good in Arizona.

Edit: NYT are actually giving Biden a 71% chance of picking up one or both North Carolina and Georgia. Biden picking up both would be curtains for Trump.

That it's even this close is a terrible, terrible indictment.

sydthebeat

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That it's even this close is a terrible, terrible indictment.

Agreed.

Whatever the result, American needs to take a long cold hard look at itself....
And by proxy, the rest of the world needs to as well.
Perhaps there has been way to far a swing to the left in "some" issues lately

Dave_The_Sheep

Such as?

Lindsay Graham did everything he could not to be re-elected and yet he's back in the Senate.

America is giving Trumpism the seal of approval as we speak. Biden should win this but there is no rejection of the hard right here.

Kanye West has conceded.

Buer

This is incredible. The Republicans may not only retain the Presidency and the Senate....they're right in the mix to take the HoR also.

kuang1

Now:

Trump 4/9, Biden 9/5.

pickarooney

I can't see Trump not winning it or at least he will never concede it.

What is the point of all those expensive opinion polls when they can't get the basics right?