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    #3422
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Biden actually did have policy positions but there was absolutely no discussion of them that I saw until I went specifically looking for them wondering the same thing.

    But he does have a website!

    He has reasonably detailed policies and they are fairly good all things considered.

    But this election has never been about policy.


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    #3423
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Biden actually did have policy positions but there was absolutely no discussion of them that I saw until I went specifically looking for them wondering the same thing.

    But he does have a website!

    Am I right in thinking Biden wants to sign up to the Paris Accord again?

    If so that's good enough for me.


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    #3424
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    bilston wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking Biden wants to sign up to the Paris Accord again?

    If so that's good enough for me.

    Yes. This is why several scientific journals broke with history to endorse him.


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    #3425
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Here we go.

    Trump's team are suing in Michigan to immediately stop counting and review votes.

    And pennsylvania now too


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    #3426
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,383 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Because nothing says democracy quite like not counting cast votes.


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    #3427
    MaybeMaybe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭MaybeMaybe


    GOP don't want democracy they want power


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    #3428
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,619 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    trump attempting to steal the election..... why was Amy Coney Barrett rushed on the supreme court again???

    ah yes......


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    #3429
    [Deleted User]
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    trump attempting to steal the election..... why was Amy Coney Barrett rushed on the supreme court again???

    ah yes......

    Could really kick off if the supreme court side with trump on anything


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    #3430
    Stheno
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    CNN projecting Biden to win Michigan


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    #3431
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I thought Biden hit all the right notes with his not-victory speech. With Michigan gone his way its almost done and dusted for Biden now you'd have to think. All the talk seems to be that Trumps legal actions won't be able to overturn any of the results seen so far.


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    #3432
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Biden is 1/12 now to win. It's over.


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    #3433
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Biden is 1/12 now to win. It's over.

    Have you coped thomond?


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    #3434
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Stheno wrote: »
    Have you coped thomond?

    I'm surviving. I'm looking forward to not hearing about Trump very soon. The "this latest outrage will ruin him" talk every week became beyond tiresome. It's the political version of the ROG/Sexton debate.


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    #3435
    [Deleted User]
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    I somehow don't think trump is going away any time soon


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    #3436
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Trump claiming Pennsylvania and Michigan...lol


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    #3437
    bilston
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I thought Biden hit all the right notes with his not-victory speech. With Michigan gone his way its almost done and dusted for Biden now you'd have to think. All the talk seems to be that Trumps legal actions won't be able to overturn any of the results seen so far.

    The concern would be how badly some of his more devoted followers take the likely result. Its clear he is trying to whip them up into a frenzy. He evidently won't go quietly into the night.


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    #3438
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    bilston wrote: »
    Trump claiming Pennsylvania and Michigan...lol

    Pennsylvania looks done and dusted for Trump but Michigan has Biden up by 70k with 50,000 to count. Why don't they call that already?


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    #3439
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    bilston wrote: »
    Trump claiming Pennsylvania and Michigan...lol

    Michigan isn't even looking particularly close any more(relatively).
    pickarooney wrote: »
    Pennsylvania looks done and dusted for Trump but Michigan has Biden up by 70k with 50,000 to count. Why don't they call that already?

    Pennsylvania is far from done and dusted. He's getting annihilated in the mail in ballots that are coming in now. Philadelphia just reported on 23,000 votes of which nearly 20,000 went to Biden. His lead has been cut from 11% or so to 5% now and it's looking like it will be fairly close either way but with a big number of votes still to be counted Biden is in with a very good chance.


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    #3440
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Because he's a disgusting piece of **** of a human being?

    America was doing well with employment and economically under Obama, why elect (R)Trump?

    I agree fully, he’s is that and much worse. However in terms of life in America did it improve or at worst not dis-improve under Trump, probably. He delivered a lot of what his base wants, including 3 Supreme Court justices. Ireland is no different, if the economy is going well and taxes aren’t going up. The incumbent party is likely to get elected.

    The simple reality is, it’s not voter manipulation. Trump is voter reflection. He represents a large portion of Americans and their beliefs. This is America, greed is good, money before morals every time.


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    #3441
    awec
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Pennsylvania looks done and dusted for Trump but Michigan has Biden up by 70k with 50,000 to count. Why don't they call that already?
    Bazzo wrote: »
    Michigan isn't even looking particularly close any more(relatively).



    Pennsylvania is far from done and dusted. He's getting annihilated in the mail in ballots that are coming in now. Philadelphia just reported on 23,000 votes of which nearly 20,000 went to Biden. His lead has been cut from 11% or so to 5% now and it's looking like it will be fairly close either way but with a big number of votes still to be counted Biden is in with a very good chance.

    Biden will win PA by 6 figures.


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    #3442
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    They're still counting Alaska, only half way through. Anyone know anything about politics up there, why the vote republican or what takes them so long?


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    #3443
    awec
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    They're still counting Alaska, only half way through. Anyone know anything about politics up there, why the vote republican or what takes them so long?

    It's the state that elected Sarah Palin as governor.

    She was the first of the lunatic fringe in the GOP to become mainstream when McCain was persuaded to put her on the ticket.


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    #3444
    Podge_irl
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    awec wrote: »
    It's the state that elected Sarah Palin as governor.

    She was the first of the lunatic fringe in the GOP to become mainstream when McCain was persuaded to put her on the ticket.

    God, while I wouldn't be a political fan of McCain he was fundamentally a good person but him putting Palin on the ticket really started the ****show we are now seeing.

    On a practical level, the transport infrastructure in Alaska is not amazing - somewhat understandably. there are towns only accessible by air! Its a logistics issue that makes the count slow.


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    #3445
    Squidgy Black
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    They're still counting Alaska, only half way through. Anyone know anything about politics up there, why the vote republican or what takes them so long?

    A lot of meth heads, drunks and really poor education. Also the fact that oil companies are the main employers too


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    #3446
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    If Biden wins when does Trump stop being president? Inauguration Day?

    If Biden wins but dies before sworn in, is Harris president? Or new vote?


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    #3447
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    pickarooney wrote: »
    They're still counting Alaska, only half way through. Anyone know anything about politics up there, why the vote republican or what takes them so long?

    Bears notoriously lean Republican.


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    #3448
    Stheno
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    If Biden wins when does Trump stop being president? Inauguration Day?

    If Biden wins but dies before sworn in, is Harris president? Or new vote?

    1. Inauguration day
    2. Think its a new election but the rules are weird in the States


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    #3449
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    If Biden wins when does Trump stop being president? Inauguration Day?

    If Biden wins but dies before sworn in, is Harris president? Or new vote?

    Yep Inauguration Day.

    On the latter, the Vice President Elect would become President Elect. There’s some legal discussion about when a winning candidate becomes “president elect” - is it when votes are made or when formally ratified etc but the legal consensus seems to be that for these purposes you become president elect when votes are cast.


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    #3450
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Seems likely that Biden will win Pennsylvania and it won’t even be especially close.


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    #3451
    UAEguy2020
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    Pen has already been called for Trump due to “questionable” votes.


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