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    #6422
    hold my beer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    The winning song was terrible. Looked like one of them was caught snorting a line on TV too

    https://www.thejournal.ie/maneskin-members-deny-doing-cocaine-5445698-May2021/


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    #6423
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    b.gud wrote: »
    Does anyone know was the song completely rubbish or was it a bit more of a "political" thing because of Brexit?

    Definitely the latter.


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    #6424
    hold my beer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Big Phil heading for his 6th major, at the grand age of 50


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    #6425
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,990 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    b.gud wrote: »
    Does anyone know was the song completely rubbish or was it a bit more of a "political" thing because of Brexit?

    Not a rubbish song but just not what Eurovision is about any more, just like our entry.

    Brexit isn't relevant because a heap of countries aren't even in the EU. Why would the Georgian or Azerbaijani juries care if the UK left the EU?


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    #6426
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Former Former Former wrote: »
    Not a rubbish song but just not what Eurovision is about any more, just like our entry.

    Brexit isn't relevant because a heap of countries aren't even in the EU. Why would the Georgian or Azerbaijani juries care if the UK left the EU?

    They wouldn't be relevant either way unless it was a particularly good song. The UK missed out on a heap of votes from Western countries they would have got in the past because of the current mood, no doubt. The vast majority of Eurovision songs aren't my bag at all but even I think the song they entered didn't deserve 0 points, there was some unbelievable ****e in there that picked up the odd few pity points.


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    #6427
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    It is "nil points" au francais.

    It isn't though, or anything like it.


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    #6428
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Bazzo wrote: »
    They wouldn't be relevant either way unless it was a particularly good song. The UK missed out on a heap of votes from Western countries they would have got in the past because of the current mood, no doubt. The vast majority of Eurovision songs aren't my bag at all but even I think the song they entered didn't deserve 0 points, there was some unbelievable ****e in there that picked up the odd few pity points.

    To marry the Brexit and Eurovision themes further, Amanda Holden dropped a clanger that just came across completely un-self-aware and insular:

    https://twitter.com/DrClaireH/status/1396349670708981760


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    #6429
    hold my beer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    pickarooney wrote: »
    It isn't though, or anything like it.

    I think it comes from the French points giver, speaking in English in years gone by, and their pronunciation sounding half English half French.


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    #6430
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,596 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    pickarooney wrote: »
    It isn't though, or anything like it.

    its not that far off

    nil point is "point nul" isnt it


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    #6431
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibc8aqzzPy8


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    #6432
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,990 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    hold my beer wrote: »
    I think it comes from the French points giver, speaking in English in years gone by, and their pronunciation sounding half English half French.

    Nah they never announced zero points for anyone. Imagine how long it would take if they did.

    I don't know where it arose, but I don't think any Eurovision announcer ever actually said 'nul points'. Some tabloid headline is my guess.


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    #6433
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,832 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Former Former Former wrote: »
    Nah they never announced zero points for anyone. Imagine how long it would take if they did.

    I don't know where it arose, but I don't think any Eurovision announcer ever actually said 'nul points'. Some tabloid headline is my guess.

    Big fan of Eurovision FFF?


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    #6434
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,990 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    awec wrote: »
    Big fan of Eurovision FFF?

    Love it.

    It combines my main passions of flamboyant theatrics and virulent xenophobia.

    Imagine Nigel Farage performing in an amateur production of The Birdcage - that was me on Saturday night.


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    #6435
    MaybeMaybe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭MaybeMaybe


    awec wrote: »
    Big fan of Eurovision FFF?

    I heard he lies awake at night wishing he could be Moldovan sax guy.


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    #6436
    OldRio
    Registered Users Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Former Former Former wrote: »

    Imagine Nigel Farage performing in an amateur production of The Birdcage - that was me on Saturday night.

    That's very very good . I doff my cap.


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    #6437
    hold my beer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Former Former Former wrote: »
    Nah they never announced zero points for anyone. Imagine how long it would take if they did.

    I don't know where it arose, but I don't think any Eurovision announcer ever actually said 'nul points'. Some tabloid headline is my guess.

    It was Eurovsion related but back in the 70s, though not known/confirmed if it was actually read out that way or came into being outside of the show.

    https://wordhistories.net/2017/01/10/nul-points/


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    #6438
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Former Former Former wrote: »
    Love it.

    It combines my main passions of flamboyant theatrics and virulent xenophobia.

    Imagine Nigel Farage performing in an amateur production of The Birdcage - that was me on Saturday night.
    If you like the Eurovision, you'll love this thread. For those not interested, this guy breaks down what exactly makes for a winning song from a musical standpoint.


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    #6439
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    its not that far off

    nil point is "point nul" isnt it

    No, it's 'zéro points' but it's not even as though the announcers give out 0 points to anyone, they just don't mention the countries that don't score.

    Do people say 'nil point' in English rather than 'no points' or 'zero points' ?


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    #6440
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    pickarooney wrote: »
    No, it's 'zéro points' but it's not even as though the announcers give out 0 points to anyone, they just don't mention the countries that don't score.

    Do people say 'nil point' in English rather than 'no points' or 'zero points' ?

    Grammar nerd alert. It’s zéro point. Singular in French.


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    #6441
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    The winning song was not very Eurovision either, I thought. It looked like an Italian Village People tribute act covering something from early Stone Temple Pilots. Not saying you don't get these discordant atrocities frequently in the competition (hell, it's why I watch it whenever I can), but they rarely ever get into double digit points.


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    #6442
    hahashake
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Do Eurovision artists get any commercial traction after Eurovision? Obviously ABBA, but it seems that in the last 15-20 years they are mostly novelty acts that quickly fade into obscurity.

    As a self-contained show, I understand the appeal, but I also completely understand why a serious artist/band would not want to associated with it.


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    #6443
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Former Former Former wrote: »
    Nah they never announced zero points for anyone. Imagine how long it would take if they did.

    I don't know where it arose, but I don't think any Eurovision announcer ever actually said 'nul points'. Some tabloid headline is my guess.

    From Wikipedia
    The first zero points in Eurovision were scored in 1962, under a new voting system. When a country finishes with a score of zero, it is often referred to in English-language media as nul points or nil points, albeit incorrectly. Grammatical French for "no points" is pas de points or zéro point, but none of these phrases are used in the contest; before 2016's voting overhaul, no-point scores were not announced by the presenters. Following the change in the voting system, a country receiving no points from the public voting is announced as receiving "zero points".[23]


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    #6444
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    hahashake wrote: »
    Do Eurovision artists get any commercial traction after Eurovision? Obviously ABBA, but it seems that in the last 15-20 years they are mostly novelty acts that quickly fade into obscurity.

    As a self-contained show, I understand the appeal, but I also completely understand why a serious artist/band would not want to associated with it.

    To a certain degree we are still stuck with Jedward and they didn’t even win it!


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    #6445
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    hahashake wrote: »
    Do Eurovision artists get any commercial traction after Eurovision? Obviously ABBA, but it seems that in the last 15-20 years they are mostly novelty acts that quickly fade into obscurity.

    As a self-contained show, I understand the appeal, but I also completely understand why a serious artist/band would not want to associated with it.

    Don't think the Eurovision happened last year, but this was Iceland's enter and was favourite to win. Banger.

    https://youtu.be/VFZNvj-HfBU


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    #6446
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    dregin wrote: »
    Don't think the Eurovision happened last year, but this was Iceland's enter and was favourite to win. Banger.

    https://youtu.be/VFZNvj-HfBU

    That's been added to my likes.


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    #6447
    MaybeMaybe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭MaybeMaybe


    Australia really has it all.

    If you don't like mice, don't click the link...


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    #6448
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Watching the BBC docu “Gods of Snooker”. It’s pretty decent.


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    #6449
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Watching the BBC docu “Gods of Snooker”. It’s pretty decent.

    Enjoyed it myself. Bar Ronnie there's not a single player now with a bit of spark or madness. Just robots who turn up, play and go home.


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    #6450
    Zzippy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Enjoyed it myself. Bar Ronnie there's not a single player now with a bit of spark or madness. Just robots who turn up, play and go home.

    John Higgins might disagree with that ;)


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    #6451
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Any recommendations for artificial grass and patio installation in Dublin?


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