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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,152 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    If Twitter does end up like 4chan an alternative will emerge for sure. If nothing else, Twitter's opportunity cost on advertising revenue will encourage serious competitors into the space.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I know he wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea. The Blindboy podcast this week was a conversation with Keith Earls. Probably no massive insights but interesting all the same. Especially when he talks about hating rugby for about 6 years after the lions tour.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's crazy how bad the mental health aspect of the game is for some players. Andrew Trimble said similar stuff about his lack of self-belief; how one bad moment at the start of game would ruin him for the rest of the game. James Lowe once commented that the lack of mental skills was one of the biggest differences when moving to Leinster. I hope we've gotten better since



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    He talked about how that has improved and how players look out for each other now. That it’s a much more open and supportive environment when it comes to mental health.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah I think this forum has largely gone the same way.

    Ye big ars*hole.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Sir John Kirwan was the first player I heard openly discuss his mental health. Sure it was after he retired but he was such a legend of the game to have someone like that be so open about his struggles when playing caused shock waves in NZ society. It absolutely changed how so many men viewed mental health.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I choose to hear that in the warm and compassionate tone it was meant in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I think sometimes we tend to put players on pedestals. That dehumanize them to a certain extent. Like they don’t feel what we feel because of the talents they have. Where as the truth is, their talent exposes them to a lot more stress than most experience.

    Earls talked about an Instance in Ravenhill of a fan shouting at him that he had butter fingers. That it totally messed up his game as he was totally fixated on not dropping the ball. Something so small having such a big impact really surprised me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Made the decision to change to a fully electric vehicle. Got solar panels in recently so have decided to go all the way.

    House is less than 3 years old and everything in it is electricity powered. No oil or gas.


    But despite having heard some anecdotes about shortages of new cars and microchip etc, had no idea what I was getting into.

    The car I've my eye on is a Kia EV6. The dealership can't even put the order in yet, and was reluctant to take the €1,000 deposit from me coz of that. I insisted just so I could "be in the queue" as it were.

    He hasn't told me this, but from doing my own bit of research, will most likely be 12 months before I'm actually driving it!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Yeah it's madness. We bought an EV at the beginning of last year. We were very lucky because within a few weeks people were ordering and getting build weeks months in the future.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,611 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    I know it's a long way away, but very keen to hear how you get on the with KIA EV6.

    My brother worked on EVs in the UK (Jaguary E-Pace) and as a result he was an early convert to EVs and the rest of the family all got introduced quite early. Since then 5 (out of 8) of the car owners in my immediate family have switched to EVs and between them they have quite the spectrum.

    Kia E-Niro

    Hyundai Kona

    Skoda Enyaq

    MG ZS

    BWM I3

    Nissan Leaf

    I've had a go in all of them bar the MG and the KIA / Hyundai (they're basically the same car) were comfortably the best. Both in practical terms, but also in the softer terms. I'm a bit away from getting one myself (currently have no car, but live in a city centre apartment with no charging and don't need a car), but very keen on the EV6 and the Cupra Born.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,763 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    EVs are still too small for me, the Enyaq is getting there but it's still just a crossover I think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Small as in the inside?



  • Administrators Posts: 53,763 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Yea, small as in the inside and boot capacity etc.

    There are no EV estate cars yet (that I know of), and I am unsure what the range would be on a fully loaded EV estate if one did exist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    The ID4 is huge inside. The boot is decent size but not huge. Range is up to 450km, though would rarely get near that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,611 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    MG5 is an estate I think? They absolutely are the future, I think the inversion point is going to happen more suddenly than people expect. As soon as the range hits like 600k you're at the point where never having to stop for petrol (because you charge overnight) becomes more of a benefit than occasionally charging on long journeys is negative.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,763 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's decent sized but a lot smaller than my current car (Superb Estate).

    It's inevitable I'll own an EV eventually, just not quite there yet for me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Peugeot 5008 plug-in hybrid is due out next year, whether that will happen now I don't know.

    I have the same issue. Three small kids mean most of the EVs are just not big enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Yeah I've test driven the EV6 twice now. It's a very impressive machine. Deceptively big. Officially in the SUV class, it doesn't strike you as one from the outside though.

    A small but really cool feature is in the rear seat footwell, there's no raised part in the middle. So if 3 people were sitting in the back they all have equal foot room. Just adds that bit more to how spacious it feels.

    I'm currently driving an insignia, which has a huge boot. The EV6 boot isn't as big of course, but still v generous.

    But some dealerships now don't even have one to test drive! Nuts!



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    There's bound to be a period where people want to switch to EVs en masse but the uptake for their second hand petrol cars will be low. If budget electric cars become a possibility I'd imagine people will have a preference.

    Then again, electricity is just going to keep going up and up and charging an EV might become unaffordable. And awkward for people living in apartments.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    The Enyaq has 585 litres of boot space. I know that’s 50-100 less than some estates but it’s a pretty serious amount of space regardless. The 12 month minimum wait time is an issue though!



  • Administrators Posts: 53,763 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Yea that is pretty close, but if that boot is fully loaded and the car has a family in it what does the range look like?



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Depends on the battery. The 80 has a realistic range of about 450km from what I’ve read. Not sure how badly impacted that is by a full car and boot though. We probably won’t really know the answer to that until towards the back end of the year when people have actually filled the car up and done it in enough numbers to gauge it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,152 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Interesting that nobody is mentioning any Tesla models. I've my name down for a CyberTruck since 2019, but still not holding my breath. Nor am I sure I want to fund Musk's latest antics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Most, if not all, Teslas are priced beyond the grant so probably rules it out for most people.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    And currently 10 month wait for Teslas.

    Just don't like their aesthetics if I'm honest. Look too much like the modern beetle which is an abomination.

    That, and the fact that you're charged anywhere from €1200 to €2300 extra if you want any colour other than white.

    (driving my daughter mad lately by pointing at any white Tesla I see saying "poor man's tesla")


    Take 25% off the manufacturers claimed range to get a sense of actual range.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,763 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The Model X is the only one available in Ireland that you could call big and it comes with a very hefty price tag.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    A green electric life is the dream but it just feels out of the price range to make that switch TBH between car and house who has that type of money upfront

    Sure the Gov grants dont cover the interest of the loans you'd need


    Almost as if the cost is 5+ years away from being accessible and that's me being optimistic



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,534 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Tesla sells well here in Massachusetts! But, there isn't many other electric vehicles that I've seen. Prius was a fairly popular brand, but I don't see many anymore.

    I can't see many people switching over tbh. They cost a lot and there's very few places to charge them. I wouldn't get one for that reason. Besides, I love my petrol fueled car! She's beautiful 😍



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,762 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Price is a real issue at the moment, but the gap between the price of an ICE and an EV are closing. And should continue to close the more uptake there is of EVs.

    And with the ranges we’re seeing now (real world of 400-500km) a charging point at home reduces the need for a public charging network for most. It’s a real selling point for my wife who hates going to petrol stations! The only time we’d need to charge publicly would be those longer trips that we’d take once or twice a year.

    And plenty of the EVs that are out now are nice looking motors. I think the EV6 is simply gorgeous. But I suppose a lot of that stuff is subjective. They are def more practical than an ICE with larger cabin space being a big part of what they offer. Apparently the VW ID3, which is slightly bigger than a Golf from the outside, is a similar size to a Passat inside.

    Ultimately we’re going to need to see mass uptake of EVs across the globe as ICE cars are major polluters. And I think we will as they become more affordable and people start to see the benefit of them.



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