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Big Brand names whose products are way overrated

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,137 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I think not being able to upgrade ram being seen as an issue is a bit of a non-story to be honest. My work laptop is a 2 month old latest model MacBook Pro and it has the same RAM as my 5 year old MacBook Pro. I also have a year old 27 inch iMac in the office which has the same RAM. I run fairly heavy programs on both also like CAD and not an issue even on my old one. The new one is a little slicker of course and has some newer features but my older one is still working very well.

    I find the battery life excellent in the new one also in contrast to a comment earlier, I can get many hours on battery longer than I ever could on the older model even when new.

    Aside from that things like trackpads etc are terrible on all machines bar macs they are in a different league and of course windows is awful, OSX is miles ahead. Not being able to use Mac would be close to a deal breaker for me were I ever changing job I don’t think I could hack using a pc/laptop and windows daily again.

    I dont care what machines you use tbh.


    But this post is unadulterated gutter sht.

    Evidently you are stuck inside an ecosystem (and thats ok who cares) but you've no opinion on other systems because you are simply stuck inside the eco system you chose good for you. Better for others that have options and use them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Anything LG I’ve bought has been great, do people over hype them or something?

    Have 3 LG tv's for the last 4 or 5 years,Nothing wrong with them and they weren't expensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,903 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    "Wait! Let's make it impossible to get in or out in a busy supermarket car park!"

    Doors actually open in a relatively narrow space, the hinging point is far enough back



    The nonsense being spouted on this thread by people to try justify their huge spends on Apple kit is hilarious. They are the absolute definition of overrated; and of overpriced; and of overhyped. Same rebadged Foxconn stuff as everyone else with a rather shonky operating system with no idea of coherent UI/UX design. That sentence can describe Apple *and* Windows kit now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭Capt. Autumn


    Copper Face Jacks

    Inexplicably popular city niteclub for culchies with no sense of style, taste or personality.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Try running a heavy-on-the-processor app such as Xcode on a recent MacBook... the battery will drain before your eyes. It isn't a machine optimised for heavy duty software development. Its a widely known issue with them (the model that introduced the "Touch Bar"), its apparently been promised to be addressed... I'm due to get a new one soon so we'll see if its any better. As a result, I only use the current one for such purposes recently when I'm stuck.

    The iMac Pro desktop is a serious machine, it leaves any MacBook in the shade. They cost serious megabucks though, crazy money. And undoubtedly you would get a windows machine with equivalent or more horsepower for significantly less.

    For reference, I'm a Mac/iOS software dev and heavily use several Macbooks/iMacs on any given day.

    Its a touch bar model I have but admittedly I rarely do anything heavy when not on power, I'm not a developer so CAD would be my heaviest use and for that I need a big screen anyway so would always be on power and connected to a monitor. I have had 5/6 hour zoom/webex calls on battery though and still a decent amount of battery left.
    listermint wrote: »
    I dont care what machines you use tbh.


    But this post is unadulterated gutter sht.

    Evidently you are stuck inside an ecosystem (and thats ok who cares) but you've no opinion on other systems because you are simply stuck inside the eco system you chose good for you. Better for others that have options and use them.

    I used windows for long enough but once I got a macbook I never looked back. In my previous job I got a new more powerful and more expensive HP laptop after I'd been a while using my personal Mac and to be honest it mostly stayed in the drawer and I used my own macbook for work.

    It's obviously an opinion but when I do need to use windows (some specific pieces of equipment I use have dedicated PCs for their control software) I find it horrible to navigate and lacking features that I use constantly on mac.

    As for the ecosystem, you will only know how good it is when you are in it but the integration between phone, watch, tablet and laptop is really superb when you get used to it, even things as simple as the apple watch unlocking the macbook seem small but are massively missed if say the watch is charging.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Copper Face Jacks

    Inexplicably popular city niteclub for culchies with no sense of style, taste or personality.

    It’s a fun place that people enjoy having a night out in. It’s the fun and enjoyment thing that makes it the subject of ire from people who are incapable of experiencing either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,849 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I think not being able to upgrade ram being seen as an issue is a bit of a non-story to be honest. My work laptop is a 2 month old latest model MacBook Pro and it has the same RAM as my 5 year old MacBook Pro.

    :rolleyes:
    You're seriously going to regret not maxing out the RAM in a couple of years.
    Aside from that things like trackpads etc are terrible on all machines bar macs

    Trackpads on macs are shíte. Only having one button is an utterly stupid design decision from almost 40 years ago that they are too bloody stubborn to reverse. Says it all about that company really - and their deluded fanboys who insist that worse is better.
    and of course windows is awful, OSX is miles ahead.

    I hate Windows but I'd rather be forced to use it in work than OS X, the latter sucks donkey balls. Usability is awful, doing anything other than run of the mill click-and-drool tasks is utterly unintuitive and awkward. The menu 'design' is complete arse fodder.
    Not being able to use Mac would be close to a deal breaker for me were I ever changing job I don’t think I could hack using a pc/laptop and windows daily again.

    Get any flavour of Linux, it's what OS X could be if Apple didn't have their head firmly wedged up their arse.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,849 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It’s a fun place that people enjoy having a night out in. It’s the fun and enjoyment thing that makes it the subject of ire from people who are incapable of experiencing either.

    Nah, it's a smelly overpriced dump that attracts a nasty crowd.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,849 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    L1011 wrote: »
    Doors actually open in a relatively narrow space, the hinging point is far enough back

    Take your DMC-12 over to the Mill Centre in Clondalkin and get back to me. The parking spaces were designed for 1970s cars where you were rubbing shoulders with your passenger, literally. :)

    Tallaght Hospital multistorey car park is horrific as well, the ramps are so tight and narrow it's unbelievable, the hundreds of massive scrape marks on the wall bear witness to the díckheadedness of its design.

    The nonsense being spouted on this thread by people to try justify their huge spends on Apple kit is hilarious. They are the absolute definition of overrated; and of overpriced; and of overhyped. Same rebadged Foxconn stuff as everyone else with a rather shonky operating system with no idea of coherent UI/UX design. That sentence can describe Apple *and* Windows kit now.

    Stop! Stop! He's already dead! :pac:

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Copper Face Jacks

    Inexplicably popular city niteclub for culchies with no sense of style, taste or personality.

    Was in there once it reminded me of Molly's in Limerick at the time...a student bar full of messy drunks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Take your DMC-12 over to the Mill Centre in Clondalkin and get back to me. The parking spaces were designed for 1970s cars where you were rubbing shoulders with your passenger, literally. :)

    Tallaght Hospital multistorey car park is horrific as well, the ramps are so tight and narrow it's unbelievable, the hundreds of massive scrape marks on the wall bear witness to the díckheadedness of its design.

    Maybe we need graded parking spaces by size, with higher charges for those who insist on driving tanks for the school run and a bit of shopping?


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    It’s a fun place that people enjoy having a night out in. It’s the fun and enjoyment thing that makes it the subject of ire from people who are incapable of experiencing either.

    Its a great spot, never had a bad night there and had some unreal ones before/after all-irelands etc.
    :rolleyes:
    You're seriously going to regret not maxing out the RAM in a couple of years.

    Had a budget allocated from work so bought to the max of that, I'll upgrade again in future but I would be confident that the RAM is sufficient for years yet. I heard similar 5 years ago when I bought my own macbook yet its still running perfectly.
    Trackpads on macs are shíte. Only having one button is an utterly stupid design decision from almost 40 years ago that they are too bloody stubborn to reverse. Says it all about that company really - and their deluded fanboys who insist that worse is better.

    Can't fathom this at all, mac trackpads are pretty much universally accepted as being the best by quite a distance. No idea what issue you have with one button, no need for them whatsoever when you have gestures. After using a mac trackpad any other one feels like you are wearing oven gloves.

    I hate Windows but I'd rather be forced to use it in work than OS X, the latter sucks donkey balls. Usability is awful, doing anything other than run of the mill click-and-drool tasks is utterly unintuitive and awkward. The menu 'design' is complete arse fodder.

    Get any flavour of Linux, it's what OS X could be if Apple didn't have their head firmly wedged up their arse.

    Again massively disagree, its a very clean and initiative operating system that I find a pleasure to use. Menus are well laid out and you have a search function that a windows user could only dream off.

    I am familiar with linux, I have a number of raspberry pis and run a linux server at home (running ubuntu). I like Linux for playing around, media management, home automation etc etc but I prefer OSx for general use and to be honest I find them very similar to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Whatever about their software any company that releases a $5000 monitor and a stand that costs an extra $1000 is purely for people with their head up their ass. Couple that with the bullsh*t throttling of older iPhones and the disaster of the broken keyboards, it's no wonder even a lot of creatives are abandoning Apple.

    They did get the iPad right to their credit however. Android never came close on tablets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Ultrflat wrote: »
    These days I use PC but if I was just working on creative projects I'd role a mac.

    Why do people say that? Considering Adobe products run on either, is there any difference?


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Adyx wrote: »
    Whatever about their software any company that releases a $5000 monitor and a stand that costs an extra $1000 is purely for people with their head up their ass. Couple that with the bullsh*t throttling of older iPhones and the disaster of the broken keyboards, it's no wonder even a lot of creatives are abandoning Apple.

    They did get the iPad right to their credit however. Android never came close on tablets.

    Far from unusual and not even extreme. We bought a 250k piece of equipment at work a few years ago and had to pay an extra 5k if we wanted the trolley to move it around. The trolley was probably worth about 500 euro but when you are buying this level of equipment you don’t skimp.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Copper Face Jacks

    Inexplicably popular city niteclub for culchies with no sense of style, taste or personality.

    See yiz in Copper's.

    Let me see. What famous culchie said that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    Far from unusual and not even extreme. We bought a 250k piece of equipment at work a few years ago and had to pay an extra 5k if we wanted the trolley to move it around. The trolley was probably worth about 500 euro but when you are buying this level of equipment you don’t skimp.

    are you actually justifying Apple charging 1K for a fcuking monitor stand?

    the LCD panel itself on the Pro Display XDR is a just rebranded LG that costs $1500

    so that's quite the markup for an additional $3.5k for the monitor bezel

    and then 1K for a stand that is similar to any €400 monitor

    I would say Tim Cook laughs every night thinking how much wool he pulls over Apple fanboys eyes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Far from unusual and not even extreme. We bought a 250k piece of equipment at work a few years ago and had to pay an extra 5k if we wanted the trolley to move it around. The trolley was probably worth about 500 euro but when you are buying this level of equipment you don’t skimp.

    5k on 250k is a 2% accessory charge

    1k on 5k is a 20% accessory charge

    Not the greatest supporting argument really


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    5k on 250k is a 2% accessory charge

    1k on 5k is a 20% accessory charge

    Not the greatest supporting argument really

    I’d have looked on it very differently. If you are spending 250k throwing in some thing for free worth 2% is nothing compared to something that they are selling for 20% of the cost.

    I think people don’t realise the cost of things, the stand is not just a stand it is a fairly hefty price of kit that would not be cheap to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I’d have looked on it very differently. If you are spending 250k throwing in some thing for free worth 2% is nothing compared to something that they are selling for 20% of the cost.

    I think people don’t realise the cost of things, the stand is not just a stand it is a fairly hefty price of kit that would not be cheap to make.

    you can say that again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    the stand is not just a stand it is a fairly hefty price of kit that would not be cheap to make.

    sweet Jesus,. its not jewel encrusted or made with metal from a crashed UFO, its just a piece of metal that holds up a screen

    It's just not possible to excuse this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Lantus


    Can I kick off with Dyson?

    A huge launch and massive marketing drive for Dyson products but I've always been underwhelmed by how they actually perform. Maybe the fuss generated is something to do with it being the first UK designed product to make a big splash in many the year but, for me, they are the Apple of products from a marketing perspective but an Acer in terms of performance.

    When I finally kicked my under-performing Dyson to the kerb and replaced in with a big ugly Meile, I nearly cried in gratitude when I heard the motor rumble to life and watched as my carpet was sucked to within an inch of it's life.

    So, what brands do you think are overrated?

    Brands can still have jems that stand out. The acer predator helios 300 is an award winning laptop but the range as a whole needs care in navigating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,821 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Tatyo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,153 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I think people don’t realise the cost of things, the stand is not just a stand it is a fairly hefty price of kit that would not be cheap to make.

    Wouldn’t bother, N. You’re arguing with the PC “master race” here. Rotund, red faced, guys wearing “Qwertee”, or faded metal band, t-shirts who simply hate Apple products regardless of how superior they may be.

    The fact of the matter is Apple iPhones, iMacs or MacBooks are the most “user-friendly” machines out there, have been for years. The “desktops“ just need to be plugged in to start, whereas with a PC you’re hours getting it from the box to working.

    Then you’ve got Android “users” go on and on about how much better their phones are but, let’s face it, it’s like comparing a Lada (Android) to a Lexus (Apple). Sure, they both drive but one, the Lexus (Apple), drives so much better. Looks better too.

    I’d just leave it now, if I were you. Maybe distract them by claiming you think Linux “systems” are rubbish. Might start them squabbling amongst themselves for a bit and you can go enjoy your evening.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Wouldn’t bother, N. You’re arguing with the PC “master race” here. Rotund, red faced, guys wearing “Qwertee”, or faded metal band, t-shirts who simply hate Apple products regardless of how superior they may be.

    The fact of the matter is Apple iPhones, iMacs or MacBooks are the most “user-friendly” machines out there, have been for years. The “desktops“ just need to be plugged in to start, whereas with a PC you’re hours getting it from the box to working.

    Then you’ve got Android “users” go on and on about how much better their phones are but, let’s face it, it’s like comparing a Lada (Android) to a Lexus (Apple). Sure, they both drive but one, the Lexus (Apple), drives so much better. Looks better too.

    I’d just leave it now, if I were you. Maybe distract them by claiming you think Linux “systems” are rubbish. Might start them squabbling amongst themselves for a bit and you can go enjoy your evening.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Wouldn’t bother, N. You’re arguing with the PC “master race” here. Rotund, red faced, guys wearing “Qwertee”, or faded metal band, t-shirts who simply hate Apple products regardless of how superior they may be.

    The fact of the matter is Apple iPhones, iMacs or MacBooks are the most “user-friendly” machines out there, have been for years. The “desktops“ just need to be plugged in to start, whereas with a PC you’re hours getting it from the box to working.

    Then you’ve got Android “users” go on and on about how much better their phones are but, let’s face it, it’s like comparing a Lada (Android) to a Lexus (Apple). Sure, they both drive but one, the Lexus (Apple), drives so much better. Looks better too.

    I’d just leave it now, if I were you. Maybe distract them by claiming you think Linux “systems” are rubbish. Might start them squabbling amongst themselves for a bit and you can go enjoy your evening.

    I like Apple, but when working from home and accessing my work portal and desktop which is windows based is a nuisance. Their keyboard is delicate to say the least, when I hook up a regular keyboard shortcut keys and using Alt for excel quick access toolbar doesn't work the same and then when i copy anything I get an annoying dialogue box appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Big brand cleaning products when Tesco own brand stuff does nearly as good a job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,903 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The “desktops“ just need to be plugged in to start, whereas with a PC you’re hours getting it from the box to working.
    .

    Someone hasn't used a Windows PC in a decade or more. Note - your Mac is a PC. Has been since 2006. Sorry.

    Pretending its still the 2000s is the norm for Apple delusionists - OSX was better than XP then and if you could tolerate the original iPhone having no features it looked lovely and shiny. But it isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Then you’ve got Android “users” go on and on about how much better their phones are but, let’s face it, it’s like comparing a Lada (Android) to a Lexus (Apple). Sure, they both drive but one, the Lexus (Apple), drives so much better. Looks better too.

    Now your just been very silly, theirs almost no difference in performance between the latest Samsung and the latest iPhone, it's simply people love the brand that's served them well in the past or looks a little more fancy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,999 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    ozmo wrote: »
    Horrible stuff - the story goes, yonks ago the milk arrived sour - not wanting to waste it they used it anyway - people got used to the taste - to this day they make it with a process that emulates this sour milk taste.

    Quick search and its in the sun so it must be true :pac:
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2248773/this-is-why-american-chocolate-tastes-so-revolting/

    When our family over in the US come back for a holiday there is half a suitcase of cadburys, tayto and assorted irish snacks and confectionry going home with them... chocolate over there is bland mainly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    If Apple released an iToilet and told their customers to literally flush their money down the toilet they’d do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,700 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Boeing since the McDonald Douglas takeover and outsourcing lots of software.

    What exactly went wrong with Boeing there when they took over MDD?
    Gael23 wrote: »
    Big brand cleaning products when Tesco own brand stuff does nearly as good a job

    Yeah definitely this, you're paying a premium so they can show you expensive TV ads. Flash, Fairy, etc are over priced for what they are which is only marginally better than own brand products. Fairy used to advertise that their liquid lasts twice as long but sure nobody is standing there with a measuring thimble, you just squirt it in at the same rate as anything else. Nowadays the Fairy baby has turned into a motorbiker with a cockney accent, bizarre stuff.

    Have a sibling who makes most of their own cleaning products to avoid single use plastics. Window cleaner is basically 50/50 vinegar and water and many other cleaning products are some combination of that, baking soda and lemon juice. I made up a bottle of window cleaner myself and it worked perfect really, there was no discernible difference from the shop bought stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    Apple
    BMW
    DYSON


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,903 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    What exactly went wrong with Boeing there when they took over MDD?

    McDonnell (Douglas were fine) management took over with their policies of milking existing designs to the death. x

    McDD never designed a single new aircraft after the McDonnell - Douglas merger; they just twiddled the DC9 and DC10 designs over and over again.

    Boeing have basically just done the same, but even worse. Latest twiddle of the 1960s 737max dives out of the sky killing everyone on board; latest twiddle of the 1990s 777X explodes during testing. Somehow manages to force the US government to accept a twiddle of the early 80s 767 as their new tanker but can't deliver the damn thing properly.

    Boeing would willingly replace life-expired designs pre-merger; McDonnell management doesn't understand the idea of something being life expired.


    Also, the outsourcing began in earnest under them, which manipulated headcount figures and balance sheet numbers to boost the stock prices. Outsourcing is a major factor in why the 787 used to go on fire. And they also moved to McDonnell's really dodgy (but legal) programme accounting practices that hide losses in future years, which let them raise the stock price and pay dividends when the 787 was really bleeding so much money the company was at risk.

    If Boeing cease to exist it will be no loss and entirely their own fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Far from unusual and not even extreme. We bought a 250k piece of equipment at work a few years ago and had to pay an extra 5k if we wanted the trolley to move it around. The trolley was probably worth about 500 euro but when you are buying this level of equipment you don’t skimp.

    That's not even remotely the same thing.
    I’d have looked on it very differently. If you are spending 250k throwing in some thing for free worth 2% is nothing compared to something that they are selling for 20% of the cost.

    I think people don’t realise the cost of things, the stand is not just a stand it is a fairly hefty price of kit that would not be cheap to make.

    It's an aluminium stand. You could get any mechanical engineering student in the country to knock one out for under €100. And the only other option besides this stand is a $200 VESA mount which again, most monitors come with or have for reasonable price.

    The monitor itself is top class for sure, but there's plenty of other manufacturers producing similar quality monitors and even the ones costing several grand at least include a fcking stand. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭JL555


    kingtiger wrote: »
    sweet Jesus,. its not jewel encrusted or made with metal from a crashed UFO, its just a piece of metal that holds up a screen

    It's just not possible to excuse this

    Does it really need to be excused? There are people who will buy that gear and there are people who won't. This is because there's a choice to buy an alternative. Nobody is forced to buy one of those stands.I personally wouldn't buy a car for 70k when I can happily drive a similar type car for 30-40k.

    I don't get all the Apple bashing in general (not necessarily you). I've been using Apple products since I was in college in the 90s. Overall I'm happy with what I get, of course there has been issues along the way, but what device/product hasn't, although not as bad a certain other big brand phone that was banned from planes and many workplaces due to an explosion risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,939 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I can see why people like Apple computers and phones, particularly if they're not very tech-minded. They're easier to use and the computers are more robust than most of the other makes. I'm a lifelong Apple user, my job entails using them and the applications (remember that word?) work better on Macs.

    I've had a top end android phone for the last two years and I won't be getting another one. It's brilliant, but just too many options on it. I find the iPhones easier to operate.

    In saying that, the amount of people I see using a MacBook Pro for browsing, Spotify, etc... when a much cheaper MacBook would do is surprising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    What exactly went wrong with Boeing there when they took over MDD?



    Yeah definitely this, you're paying a premium so they can show you expensive TV ads. Flash, Fairy, etc are over priced for what they are which is only marginally better than own brand products. Fairy used to advertise that their liquid lasts twice as long but sure nobody is standing there with a measuring thimble, you just squirt it in at the same rate as anything else. Nowadays the Fairy baby has turned into a motorbiker with a cockney accent, bizarre stuff.

    Have a sibling who makes most of their own cleaning products to avoid single use plastics. Window cleaner is basically 50/50 vinegar and water and many other cleaning products are some combination of that, baking soda and lemon juice. I made up a bottle of window cleaner myself and it worked perfect really, there was no discernible difference from the shop bought stuff.

    All very true. However I still won’t be without Fairy/Jif for some reason


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Gilette razors. Over priced and under performing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Guiness!
    Lets be real , its not a good drink, run the guts out of you and the farts are horrific


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    What exactly went wrong with Boeing there when they took over MDD?



    Yeah definitely this, you're paying a premium so they can show you expensive TV ads. Flash, Fairy, etc are over priced for what they are which is only marginally better than own brand products. Fairy used to advertise that their liquid lasts twice as long but sure nobody is standing there with a measuring thimble, you just squirt it in at the same rate as anything else. Nowadays the Fairy baby has turned into a motorbiker with a cockney accent, bizarre stuff.

    Have a sibling who makes most of their own cleaning products to avoid single use plastics. Window cleaner is basically 50/50 vinegar and water and many other cleaning products are some combination of that, baking soda and lemon juice. I made up a bottle of window cleaner myself and it worked perfect really, there was no discernible difference from the shop bought stuff.
    They are always on offer so no saving on buying own brand


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    Manach wrote: »
    Gilette razors. Over priced and under performing.

    Their ads went from the sublime in the late 80s to pitiful woke nonsense recently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    The whole Apple vs Android thing is extremely tedious. If you cannot afford an Apple device then you buy an Android, and fool yourself into believing that your €250 Chinese import phone has the same features, camera quality, and build as something that costs a multiple of it.

    It's the same sort of delusion that has people believing the food they buy in Aldi is of comparable quality to that which you'll find in an artisan grocer, or even a Supervalu/Dunnes.

    See also - Dacia/Hyundai/Skoda etc owners, Nespresso, and cheap off-the-peg suits. People love the idea of a bargain or an offer, and will jump through mental hoops to delude themselves into thinking that the tat they've bought is of excellent quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,488 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    The whole Apple vs Android thing is extremely tedious. If you cannot afford an Apple device then you buy an Android, and fool yourself into believing that your €250 Chinese import phone has the same features, camera quality, and build as something that costs a multiple of it.

    It's the same sort of delusion that has people believing the food they buy in Aldi is of comparable quality to that which you'll find in an artisan grocer, or even a Supervalu/Dunnes.

    See also - Dacia/Hyundai/Skoda etc owners, Nespresso, and cheap off-the-peg suits. People love the idea of a bargain or an offer, and will jump through mental hoops to delude themselves into thinking that the tat they've bought is of excellent quality.

    They are ALL Chinese imports ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    When you realise that some of the imported brands in Donnybrook Fair are now sold in Aldi for cheap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    McGaggs wrote: »
    When you realise that some of the imported brands in Donnybrook Fair are now sold in Aldi for cheap.

    Name one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,903 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The whole Apple vs Android thing is extremely tedious. If you cannot afford an Apple device then you buy an Android, and fool yourself into believing that your €250 Chinese import phone has the same features, camera quality, and build as something that costs a multiple of it.

    It's the same sort of delusion that has people believing the food they buy in Aldi is of comparable quality to that which you'll find in an artisan grocer, or even a Supervalu/Dunnes.

    See also - Dacia/Hyundai/Skoda etc owners, Nespresso, and cheap off-the-peg suits. People love the idea of a bargain or an offer, and will jump through mental hoops to delude themselves into thinking that the tat they've bought is of excellent quality.

    You've a lovely set of mental hoops there to convince yourself that Apple kit isn't made by the same Chinese outsourcers in the first place.

    They're a Foxconn rebadger, same as others


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    The whole Apple vs Android thing is extremely tedious. If you cannot afford an Apple device then you buy an Android, and fool yourself into believing that your €250 Chinese import phone has the same features, camera quality, and build as something that costs a multiple of it.

    It's the same sort of delusion that has people believing the food they buy in Aldi is of comparable quality to that which you'll find in an artisan grocer, or even a Supervalu/Dunnes.

    Or if you prefer an android device you just buy that, the best ones are just as good as the latest iPhone. I think most people who buy the latest version of a companies new phone straight away are idiots, anybody who queues up for a piece of tech is a fool.

    But the biggest clowns of all are those who think most of the food in dunnes/super valu is far superior to Lidl/Aldi, these people need to start using their common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    JL555 wrote: »
    Does it really need to be excused? There are people who will buy that gear and there are people who won't.

    The thing is when you see a product ridiculously overpriced you associate it with the brand and it makes you think of the brand as been expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    JL555 wrote: »
    Does it really need to be excused? There are people who will buy that gear and there are people who won't.

    The thing is when you see a product ridiculously overpriced you associate it with the brand and it makes you think of the brand as been expensive.


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