A/R TT....Round 2 - 1 mile TT, Saturday May 30th *** please read post #1 ***

Laineyfrecks

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Worse........ Much much worse.........

You are definitely hanging around with your mate too long...

KSU

ultrapercy wrote: »

No Scholes was good at football, maybe the equally useless Kleberson of around the same era. Rather unkindly nicknamed Klebfoot by the "fans".

Ah lads. We were having a rough enough season before lockdown do you really have to stick the knife in even when we aren’t playing.

Before you know it people will start discussing Bebe.

ThebitterLemon

ultrapercy wrote: »

Can someone put me in for 4.59, m45 ( **** thats scary when I see it written down, Im 23 in my head)

Here’s another lad thinking it the Boards km TT...:)

TbL

KSU

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Here’s another lad thinking it the Boards km TT...:)

TbL

Judging of the last TT he will prob do this with a 13% incline point to point

healy1835

I did see the great man himself score against Panathanikos in the Champions League group stage one evening. (Djemba Djemba that is )

ThebitterLemon

KSU wrote: »

Judging of the last TT he will prob do this with a 13% incline point to point

Yep, unless he’s injured he’s sandbagging!

TbL

MY BAD

https://youtu.be/_7CnCYCYC8s

#bringbackthemile

Swashbuckler

KSU wrote:

Before you know it people will start discussing Bebe.

Now there's a class username. Bebe Bebe.

ultrapercy

KSU wrote: »

Ah lads. We were having a rough enough season before lockdown do you really have to stick the knife in even when we aren’t playing.

Before you know it people will start discussing Bebe.

Im a United supporter myself. Wittest fan nickname ever was for the ill fated goalkeeper Massimo Taibi who was from Venice, they called him the blind venetian.

TFBubendorfer

healy1835 wrote: »

(one is named after a pretty flaky midfielder who, a couple of brilliant cameos aside, including an amazing 1st half that unfortunately was ended by injury the night Porto equalised in the last minute at OT and Jose came into our collective consciousness, was so ****e they named him twice)

He was merely ahead of his time! A useless midfielder at United before being useless in midfield at United was even a thing.

I can't believe a mile TT thread has degraded to the level of discussing United midfielders. Mods!!!

adrian522

Would it be considered bad form to consume 4 x 355 ml. beers over the duration of this time trial?

IvoryTower

However you want to butcher your own mile in fine with me

Swashbuckler

TFBubendorfer wrote:

I can't believe a mile TT thread has degraded to the level of discussing United midfielders. Mods!!!

Anything that takes the heat off me and S even for a short while is very welcome.

adrian522 wrote:

Would it be considered bad form to consume 4 x 355 ml. beers over the duration of this time trial?

On the contrary I will happily reverse handicap anyone who commits to that. 20s deducted from total time per 355ml beer consumed. Lol

Classic21

I normally just read and never post but I will give this TT a go.
I have never raced below 5K and a recent 5K gives me a 1ml time of 5:35 on McMillan. I would be shocked to get near that time but I will try.
M41, please add to the table
Thanks

Dubh Geannain

I think I'm getting route selection anxiety. Is that a thing?

Ran a few random loops off my run this morning only to soon utter "No no no, this won't do at all", shortly after commencing each one. Thoughts of having to mount paths, sharp turns and potential traffic while trying to tip along at mile pace... The hunt continues. All part of the fun. Who'd be a race organiser :rolleyes:

Hannibal_Smith

What's the difference between elevation gain and Grade percentage on Strava?

skyblue46

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

What's the difference between elevation gain and Grade percentage on Strava?

Both can vary from watch to watch. Sometimes the elevation gain shown is the total elevation gain other times it is the net gain. For example if you did a 1km run which was pancake flat, then went up 20 metres before dropping down again to a flat run to the end of 10k......some watches show zero elevation gain as the up and down cancel each other out, others will show 20m of elevation gain because you climbed 20m.

Likewise for grade percentage...some will show zero, others will show 2% ie. 20m elevation in a 1,000 metre run.

What's the context?

Hannibal_Smith

skyblue46 wrote: »

Both can vary from watch to watch. Sometimes the elevation gain shown is the total elevation gain other times it is the net gain. For example if you did a 1km run which was pancake flat, then went up 20 metres before dropping down again to a flat run to the end of 10k......some watches show zero elevation gain as the up and down cancel each other out, others will show 20m of elevation gain because you climbed 20m.

Likewise for grade percentage...some will show zero, others will show 2% ie. 20m elevation in a 1,000 metre run.

What's the context?

I was just looking at the route I picked and saw it said 0.0% grade and 36 ft elevation. But I think that's alright for the TT?

skyblue46

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

I was just looking at the route I picked and saw it said 0.0% grade and 36 ft elevation. But I think that's alright for the TT?

Yeah that's fine. It means the 36 feet of elevation has been cancelled out by 36 feet of drop. Perfect!

Sheep1978

M41 and I'll have a stab at 5.29 if someone wouldn't mind adding me

skyblue46

Here's the latest table. We'll update it in a few days. If there are any new entries or changes that anyone wants to make simply put a post on the thread and we will add/amend as required.


Name |Cat |Prediction|Actual|AG|Adjusted|Sandbag Factor
career move|F38|6:30||||
py|M37|6:30||||
shotgunmcos|M42|5:40||||
Crisco10|M34|5:30||||
DeepBlue|M49|6:16||||
coogy|M47|5:30||||
Dubh G|M37|4:59||||
tbukela|M37|6:05||||
MisterJinx|M43|5:30||||
TFBubendorfer|M50|5:59||||
KSU|M31|4:59||||
MrMacPhisto|M35|5:01||||
Wubble Wubble|M47|5:59||||
Pherekydes|M60|9:00||||
woody1|M44|5:50||||
IvoryTower|M37|4:48||||
mister paul|M44|5:45||||
Murph_D|M59|5:54||||
Zebra3|M44|6:48||||
Itziger|M54|5:30||||
Skyblue46|M53|5:42||||
Mr. Guappa|M37|6:16||||
diego_b|M38|6:30||||
OOnegative|M42|5:20||||
token56|M32|5:45||||
jamule|M45|4:59||||
Swashbuckler|M38|5:15||||
66_lad|M40|4:58||||
ReeReeG|F34|5:59||||
Laineyfrecks|F42|6:05||||
MY BAD|M38|4:59||||
EnPassant|M59|6:25||||
quick feet|M38|5:15||||
spc78|M42|4:56||||
ariana|F43|6:45||||
MrSkinny|M48|6:15||||
yido1882|M34|5:50||||
Lazare|M44|5:50||||
MisterDrak|M53|5:55||||
gucci|M37|5:29||||
dna_leri|M53|5:20||||
justdoit|M39|5:52||||
Djemba Djemba|M36|5:30||||
Lambay island|M38|4:59||||
Scotindublin|M42|5:29||||
AuldManKing|M47|5:05||||
jackc101|M37|7:00||||
slow_runner|M45|5:47||||
Ecoenergy|M45|5:45||||
Kurt Godel|M49|5:55||||
JemsD|F37|8:00||||
Duanington|M40|5:59||||
blackbird86|F37|7:59||||
Diablo Verde|M39|5:09||||
Omeceron|M39|6:30||||
ClashCityRocker|M35|4:59||||
lenny palmer|M47|7:00||||
pansophelia|F40|7:31||||
nop98|M47|6:00||||
the descent|M|5:10||||
Comic book guy|M40|5:30||||
Strawberry Swan|F40|7:50||||
simonw|M33|6:15||||
Ferris B|M52|5:43||||
passinginterest|M37|7:15||||
snailsong|M50|5:45|||||
ThebitterLemon|M53|6:40|||||
Tipptatlers|M30|6:15|||||
Krusty_Clown|M45|5:15|||||
BeepBeep67|M53|5:15|||||
Alorra|M37|6:30|||||
Sharkey47|M54|6:10||||
Treviso|M40|5:05||||
outforarun|M47|5:39||||
laura_ac3|F35|7:44||||
Marty Bird|M40|5:25|||
Sheep1978|M41|5:29||||
Classic21|M41|5:35||||
Hannibal_Smith|F43|10:20||||
ultrapercy|M45|4:59||||
LastFridayNight|M47|6:10||||
Hedgehoggy|F37|6:12||||
eyrie|F|6:45||||
Sussex18|F40|6:40||||
internet_user|M25|6:50||||
healy1835|M39|5:15||||
ByrneDCMBrian|M|6:50||||
Damo2k9|M25|5:15||||

OOnegative

I also seem to remember the last lad broke the table down into individual age categories for easier reading & to see what the competition was like within that age category. It’s just a suggestion, no problem if it isn’t taken on board.

Hannibal_Smith

OOnegative wrote: »

I also seem to remember the last lad broke the table down into individual age categories for easier reading & to see what the competition was like within that age category. It’s just a suggestion, no problem if it isn’t taken on board.

Ssssh...some of us are happy to be hidden away there and don't need to see any 'competition' :pac:

skyblue46

OOnegative wrote: »

I also seem to remember the last lad broke the table down into individual age categories for easier reading & to see what the competition was like within that age category. It’s just a suggestion, no problem if it isn’t taken on board.

Ignored


We trust people to know what age category they are in. Doing it any other way would be an insult to their intelligence. :pac:


Speaking of which....if anyone has their name on this table they should also join the Strava club linked in the OP. Likewise if somebody has joined the Strava club they should also drop a note here to be included in the table or post in the club a reference to their username here. At the moment the lists are quite a way off matching each other.

OOnegative

skyblue46 wrote: »

Ignored


We trust people to know what age category they are in. Doing it any other way would be an insult to their intelligence. :pac:


Speaking of which....if anyone has their name on this table they should also join the Strava club linked in the OP. Likewise if somebody has joined the Strava club they should also drop a note here to be included in the table. At the moment the lists are quite a way off matching each other.

Now if roles were reversed and you asked me to do such a thing I’d be working on it right now, but there ya go. Think someone is your friend......

Murph_D

OOnegative wrote: »

I also seem to remember the last lad broke the table down into individual age categories for easier reading & to see what the competition was like within that age category. It’s just a suggestion, no problem if it isn’t taken on board.

The table autosorts by age, B. Your age cat competitors are the ones around you in the table.

Murph_D

Stick annapr in please. F55 8:29.

juke

Murph_D wrote: »

The table autosorts by age, B. Your age cat competitors are the ones around you in the table.

Not on all browsers, it works on chrome, not DuckDuckGo

OOnegative

Murph_D wrote: »

The table autosorts by age, B. Your age cat competitors are the ones around you in the table.

Ah I’m only rising the cranky SB, he likes to give out!! Like J, doesn’t auto sort for me either.

skyblue46

OOnegative wrote: »

Ah I’m only rising the cranky SB, he likes to give out!! Like J, doesn’t auto sort for me either.

Trying....:pac::pac:

Murph_D

OOnegative wrote: »

Ah I’m only rising the cranky SB, he likes to give out!! Like J, doesn’t auto sort for me either.

Maybe he'll sort out the table manually for maximum compatibility. I think the last fella did that too.

Singer

I'd be over the moon with 5:59.9999999999

A distributed beer mile sounds like a worthwhile event to put on too!

lulublue22

Hi

I’d love to sign up to this. Aiming for a 8:30 mile. Female 44


thanks

lulublue22

skyblue46

lulublue22 wrote: »

Hi

I’d love to sign up to this. Aiming for a 8:30 mile. Female 44


thanks

lulublue22

The more the merrier We'll update the table in a few days again. Don't forget to post your boards name in the Strava group.

eyrie

Forgot my age, sorry! 36. For when you're updating the table again

Younganne

Hopefully I will make the starting line of this one.

F48 going for Sub 8 - I'll either be delighted or get a kick up the ar*e but nothing to lose by trying :D

ahnowbrowncow

I'll sign up to this, give me some extra training motivation.

Haven't raced or ran any time trials in the last 6 months so not sure what level I'm at. I did 10 x 400m yesterday averaging 76.5 with 90 seconds rest, judging by that the sub 5 might be beyond me at this stage but I'll aim for 4:59 anyway, M32.

CR 7

Haven't done a bit of speedwork since the club suspended training the second week of march so I'm in for this. I did a practice mile last week to remind myself how much it hurts and finished in 5:52, so I might as well be a bit optimistic as to how much improvement you can make with 3 weeks training!

Put me down for 5:30 please, M31.

CrazyFred

CrazyFred here, M44, Predicted 5.15. Thank you

sdevine89

Would love to sign up. 30 year old male. In terms of predicted times I don't really know what I should be aiming for having never done a 1 Mile run/TT before. 5k recent PB is 26:11. So I reckon stick me down for 07:29 for the Mile and see how I get on.

If someone wants to correct my prediction please let me know, as I say I'm practically guessing.

I'll join the Strava group and comment my username now too.

IvoryTower

The prediction doesn't matter, it's only used to catch sandbaggers

Lazare

sdevine89 wrote: »

Would love to sign up. 30 year old male. In terms of predicted times I don't really know what I should be aiming for having never done a 1 Mile run/TT before. 5k recent PB is 26:11. So I reckon stick me down for 07:29 for the Mile and see how I get on.

If someone wants to correct my prediction please let me know, as I say I'm practically guessing.

I'll join the Strava group and comment my username now too.

I'd no real clue either, went with what my 5k pb suggests, but even that's a guess given I haven't raced this year.

I did some 400 reps the other day and it made things a little clearer. Not crystal clear but clearer. I'd recommend that.

crisco10

If a 3 x 1 mile session is a good predictor/assessment of target 5k time. What's the equivalent session for a 1 mile tt ??

pconn062

crisco10 wrote: »

If a 3 x 1 mile session is a good predictor/assessment of target 5k time. What's the equivalent session for a 1 mile tt ??

600m/500m/400m/300m/200m @ goal race pace off 60 secs recovery I have used as a peak workout for the mile in the past. If you can't hit your goal pace off 60 secs rest you need to adjust it. So for a 4.48 mile you would hit 1.48, 1.30, 72, 54, 36.

People also use 10x400m @goal pace off 60 secs as a predicter.

KSU

pconn062 wrote: »

600m/500m/400m/300m/200m @ goal race pace off 60 secs recovery I have used as a peak workout for the mile in the past.

Watch you being ran off boards this time next week after every feels the pain of this session. Nothing quite like that metallic taste of blood in your mouth after you cough up a lung at the end of this session of a Cold January night getting ready for indoors :P

Dubh Geannain

pconn062 wrote: »

600m/500m/400m/300m/200m @ goal race pace off 60 secs recovery I have used as a peak workout for the mile in the past. If you can't hit your goal pace off 60 secs rest you need to adjust it. So for a 4.48 mile you would hit 1.48, 1.30, 72, 54, 36.

People also use 10x400m @goal pace off 60 secs as a predicter.

Was going to suggest the 10x400. I've used it myself before but still fell short of my target race pace. With it not being a race it might be even trickier to predict. My experience anyway was the 10 x 400s but maybe add around a second per 400 on the day. So being able to do 75s for a 5 minute flat mile would become 76s and a 5:04 mile. Just my experience.

The 600 down to 200 sounds tougher to me due to the front loading. I'm going to try that one out anyway. Cheers.

IvoryTower

I'm just going to train like normal and knock it out of the park or path or whatever, who the hell tries to peak for a race in May? Bloody fun running marathoners that's who

IvoryTower

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

The 600 down to 200 sounds tougher to me due to the front loading. I'm going to try that one out anyway. Cheers.

Yep apposite for me, the 400s sound way harder. Might give it a bash later in the year :cool:

MrSkinny

Can somebody suggest a couple of sessions to do between now and TT day for somebody who has been doing mainly easy mileage for the last while? Obviously no time for a full-blown mile training plan but just something to get a bit of speed into the legs without going overboard.

IvoryTower

MrSkinny wrote: »

Can somebody suggest a couple of sessions to do between now and TT day for somebody who has been doing mainly easy mileage for the last while? Obviously no time for a full-blown mile training plan but just something to get a bit of speed into the legs without going overboard.

The 10 x 400 session, once a week