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My garden Room Build
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Where did you learn the plastering?
I tried my hand at it covering a hole in some plasterwork and left a mountain
, couldn't get a smooth finish at the joint, put me right off ever attempting something like you are doing. Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/
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Where did you learn the plastering?
I tried my hand at it covering a hole in some plasterwork and left a mountain , couldn't get a smooth finish at the joint, put me right off ever attempting something like you are doing.
I'm not sure what the OP used, but I find the powdered stuff from gyproc(easifill/joint filler) really easy to sand. I've e never tried the ready mix version of this.
I can never get a good finish with ready mix pollyfilla0 -
Where did you learn the plastering?
I tried my hand at it covering a hole in some plasterwork and left a mountain , couldn't get a smooth finish at the joint, put me right off ever attempting something like you are doing.
I "learned" from youtube - In fairness it isnt the best job ever done, but its passable, I am saved somewhat by the fact I am using downlights which dont reflect the light on the ceiling - where it really isnt a good job on the plasterboard and I had to compensate on the jointing.
But some good advice I got here (thanks iwillthefu) was to coat and sand, coat and sand and more sanding to get it back flat.
The walls are actually fairly good bar the odd corner spot (again particularly the ceiling join )
Here is a load of photos but I am not sure you'll see it that clearly -
The corners do look a little darker in some photos. But I have just put a coat of paint on them.0 -
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right - so floors in yesterday. I also had a second set of hands round the place so I got him to help throw the couch in too.
Both need a good clean !
I also took the opportunity to throw in the wiring for the surround sound system -
Last photo is the view from the couch - and also the next DIY job I have ( fixing that view ! )
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Snotaul Goodman wrote: »Ah yes the purpose of the room all makes sense now with the couch :pac:;):pac:;):pac:
Ah, i see all of your time on the internet is not spent on boards sir!
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Pics pics and more pics pls !
As to where the water is going ... my intention is to dig a sink in the corner and any run off can go into the neighbours ( he's a pi*ck, if i could re-route the soil pipe from the house into his garden I would :eek: )
Was he giving out about the height or the noise? 0 -
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TheBoyConor wrote: »Looks nice but I donno why you didn't just pour a concrete slab.
The arse is going to rot out from under that in a few years. Guaranteed. and the space beneath will harbour vermin.
Ah years, because suspended timber floors famously only last a few years. :rolleyes:
In your case you were trying to sand a joint with the existing skim coat. So you were likely wearing away the skim at the joint, or trying to flatten just the patch. Not easy.Where did you learn the plastering?
I tried my hand at it covering a hole in some plasterwork and left a mountain , couldn't get a smooth finish at the joint, put me right off ever attempting something like you are doing.
In OPs case, he is feathering back to the paper face of the board. So he filling compound is sanded back to micro thickness to blend into the face. The sander is also wider than the joint, so it ends up bridging board to board. easy enough.
It's not done often in Ireland, which means its not done well. But it's the norm overseas, even on high end commercial.Pics pics and more pics pls !
As to where the water is going ... my intention is to dig a sink in the corner and any run off can go into the neighbours ( he's a pi*ck, if i could re-route the soil pipe from the house into his garden I would :eek: )
Hopefully he not too saavy in terms of planning laws. Don't want a prick of a neighbour getting council around.
Looks great. One concern that crossed my mind that that the flooring sheet internally and externally in the triangle is the same sheet which could be a water ingress path. But maybe you flashed it with the door.0 -
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listermint wrote: »Water butt for watering the garden or washing the car. rainwater is best for both applications.
I suppose the irony there is that if you're in a position to harvest water to a butt, it's probably pissing down, so you won't need to water the flowers......and washing the car is a waste of time, so the butt fills quickly
The floor on my build is 20'x8' so the roof will be approx 22'x11', virtually flat, with EDPM covering. Height will be approx 8' at the front reducing slightly towards the rear.
I've invested 3 days at this point:
Day 1: clear site and install footings (12xsolids on hardcore and cement base)
Day 2: Subframe assembly (6x2 treated)
Day 3: Insulation (50mm PIR) with a 1200 gauge polythene over-cover and then 18mm OSB flooring
Doing it in between working FT so just have to do it when I can. I'll be keeping all spend details and running it in 5 phases.
Floor
Walls
Roof
Doors/external cladding
Internal furnishing
In terms of elec supply, I'm not going back to the CU at this point. I've a functional spur that I'll repurpose to supply light and a few sockets (no major power items will be in the finished build - largest of which will be a 500w panel heater - the remaining draw will be for insignificants such as some LED lighting, and perhaps a TV, phone charging etc - nothing near a combined 13amps)
It'll be a 60:40 split for my daughter and a shed for moi. The 60% will be a functional room where I will put in the effort in terms of finishing complete (plasterboard/painting/lam flooring/panel heater etc) and the shed will get a little less attention. Hoping to get out for 3K less furnishings on the daughters side. I'll throw up a few pics as I go.0 -
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and washing the car is a waste of time, so the butt fills quickly
:eek::eek:I suppose the irony there is that if you're in a position to harvest water to a butt, it's probably pissing down, so you won't need to water the flowers......and washing the car is a waste of time, so the butt fills quickly
The floor on my build is 20'x8' so the roof will be approx 22'x11', virtually flat, with EDPM covering. Height will be approx 8' at the front reducing slightly towards the rear.
I've invested 3 days at this point:
Day 1: clear site and install footings (12xsolids on hardcore and cement base)
Day 2: Subframe assembly (6x2 treated)
Day 3: Insulation (50mm PIR) with a 1200 gauge polythene over-cover and then 18mm OSB flooring
Doing it in between working FT so just have to do it when I can. I'll be keeping all spend details and running it in 5 phases.
Floor
Walls
Roof
Doors/external cladding
Internal furnishing
In terms of elec supply, I'm not going back to the CU at this point. I've a functional spur that I'll repurpose to supply light and a few sockets (no major power items will be in the finished build - largest of which will be a 500w panel heater - the remaining draw will be for insignificants such as some LED lighting, and perhaps a TV, phone charging etc - nothing near a combined 13amps)
It'll be a 60:40 split for my daughter and a shed for moi. The 60% will be a functional room where I will put in the effort in terms of finishing complete (plasterboard/painting/lam flooring/panel heater etc) and the shed will get a little less attention. Hoping to get out for 3K less furnishings on the daughters side. I'll throw up a few pics as I go.
Ok, all the bits about the electric .. well I can see they are written in Engish but that all means absolutely zip to me.
I'll attach my full build materials list in a minute. I optimistically thought I could do it for 4 ish when I started, I didnt. You might fair better !
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On the contrary, I think the OP and other interested followers would be keen to know and have a genuine interest in the topic. It’s great that skilled people like yourself post around these parts - great advice to be picked up for the avid DIYers and I for one always appreciate qualified lads sharing knowledge.Actually my reply will only drag the ops thread off topic. I'd reconsider wiring to DB.
The location of my CU is typical for a 3 bed semi... just inside the hall door on the party wall, sitting on blobbed board. Running 4sq (or 6) from here would be a royal pain and impossible to do neatly without significant work. I’d happily take the option if it was a straightforward run but it’s not unfortunately. I ran 2.5sq from the spur many years ago through conduit along the top of the dividing garden wall and it’s neatly buried over the years with ivy so safe enough.
Anyway, 4 days invested. I’ll throw up pics shortly
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good stuff dodzy - you are flying along !quick questions dodzy, I presume you'll be taking those walls back down to put the sheeting and cladding on ?
Good spot, but no. If you look close, you’ll see a double stud at center rear. I made this frame in 2 sections so basically when I want to wall it out, I just ‘open the gate’ so to speak, slide in the 8x4 sheets and fit from behind. I left a 20” perimeter for access/inspection & maintenance. I’m not a fat lad, so plenty of room in that
Done for the day. Another 8 hrs in. Walled and noggin’d out. 2nd head in for roof support. Now the debate on french doors. Need 2 sets. Have to move on something tomorrow! Those 2 items will of course be the largest spend per item. Knew that going in. Ah well.
Word to any potential shed builders....whatever quantity of screws you factor in to your materials list....double it!
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Good spot, but no. If you look close, you’ll see a double stud at center rear. I made this frame in 2 sections so basically when I want to wall it out, I just ‘open the gate’ so to speak, slide in the 8x4 sheets and fit from behind. I left a 20” perimeter for access/inspection & maintenance. I’m not a fat lad, so plenty of room in that
you must be built like a ladder !
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you must be built like a ladder !
What have you in mind for the cladding ?
Hard to say Rob. This is unfortunately where the material costs increase. I’m €1300 in to this point (this cost includes the 50mm PIR sheets for all the walls and the OSB for the front of the build (currently under a tarp in the front garden).
Treated 144mm shiplap as a finishing timber will probably cost me circa €600. I don’t mind cheaping out on the sides and back as it won’t be seen as long as it’s durable. Was looking at zero maintenance cladding/fascia earlier on line form an Irish company- nice site....but at over €40 per mtr, that won’t be happening. Happy for suggestions from anyone following your thread!0 -
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you must be built like a ladder !
What have you in mind for the cladding ?
Hard to say Rob. This is unfortunately where the material costs increase. I’m €1300 in to this point (this cost includes the 50mm PIR sheets for all the walls and the OSB for the front of the build (currently under a tarp in the front garden).
Treated 144mm shiplap as a finishing timber will probably cost me circa €600. I don’t mind cheaping out on the sides and back as it won’t be seen as long as it’s durable. Was looking at zero maintenance cladding/fascia earlier on line form an Irish company- nice site....but at over €40 per mtr, that won’t be happening. Happy for suggestions from anyone following your thread!0 -
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