My garden Room Build

iwillhtfu

RobAMerc wrote: »

Will you have to remove the soffit to run the cladding up under it or is there a finishing strip for the top?

c.p.w.g.w

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance...where are suggestion the batons to go?

Cheers @iwillhtfu...Batons as an alternative to the cladding?

Again apologize, i'm confused

Lumen

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Cheers @iwillhtfu...Batons as an alternative to the cladding?

Again apologize, i'm confused

The "no battens" suggestion came from

"I’d have gone without batons and just screwed the cladding directly to the OSB".

There are battens in the pics above.

iwillhtfu

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Cheers @iwillhtfu...Batons as an alternative to the cladding?

Again apologize, i'm confused

That was OP but the batons are fixed the the ply wood and then the fascia is fixed to the batons allowing what looks like a 2" gap for air circulation. It also means you're not putting dozens of screws through your membrane.

Lumen

The strongest way is to fix the battens through the sheeting into the studs.

c.p.w.g.w

Lumen wrote: »

The "no battens" suggestion came from

"I’d have gone without batons and just screwed the cladding directly to the OSB".

There are battens in the pics above.

iwillhtfu wrote: »

That was OP but the batons are fixed the the ply wood and then the fascia is fixed to the batons allowing what looks like a 2" gap for air circulation. It also means you're not putting dozens of screws through your membrane.

Cheers thanks guys...I was looking at the picture thinking "Aren't those Battens?"

RobAMerc

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Will you have to remove the soffit to run the cladding up under it or is there a finishing strip for the top?

there is a J channel ( which I ran out of ), similar to that at the corner in the pics above.

I guess running it up behind the soffit would be a good call to, if I could face removing and cutting it to fit it. The 2 sides I will be using this stuff on are very sheltered and wont be getting any rain driven into them, so having the siding run up to the soffit should suffice. membrane behind it anyway.

Mellor

Lumen wrote: »

The strongest way is to fix the battens through the sheeting into the studs.

Also the best way to protect/waterproof the penetrations.

DublinDilbert

Can someone PM me the name of the cladding supplier

RobAMerc

DublinDilbert wrote: »

Can someone PM me the name of the cladding supplier

there is a link in the thread 2 or 3 pages back

oinkely

DublinDilbert wrote: »

Can someone PM me the name of the cladding supplier

https://www.adverts.ie/other-building-materials/cladding/19940840

Darando

dodzy wrote: »

He is getting grey in on Thursday!

Told me it was light grey/RAL 7035.

What colour did you do your soffits/fascia boards in @dodzy and @RobAMerc?

Am considering the pvc cladding but had planned on 7016 so hoping mixing “see-dar” front, 7016 fascia/soffit/door/window and the 7035 cladding on 3 sides won’t look hodge podge! But the price is really good!

dodzy

Darando wrote: »

Told me it was light grey/RAL 7035.

What colour did you do your soffits/fascia boards in @dodzy and @RobAMerc?

Am considering the pvc cladding but had planned on 7016 so hoping mixing “see-dar” front, 7016 fascia/soffit/door/window and the 7035 cladding on 3 sides won’t look hodge podge! But the price is really good!

Going with 2722 0015 (I think it’s ‘sand’ colour) . Fascia and soffit can wait till next week



I think it will go well with the white doors. Haven’t done anything in the last week with work so hoping to get the roof materials and front finished this weekend; to hell with the weather. Looks crap though.

crisco10

Ral 7035 is quite a light grey. Most wind turbines are that colour.

Pkiernan

dodzy wrote: »

Is there a potential issue with having the horizontal cross members sp close to each other?
Normally I'd see them spaced out higher and lower

Lumen

Pkiernan wrote: »

Is there a potential issue with having the horizontal cross members sp close to each other?
Normally I'd see them spaced out higher and lower

They're effectively one line. The offset just makes them easier to fit.

I'm not sure they do very much in a sheeted wall like this where the racking strength comes from the OSB. Makes more sense with a plasterboarded stud partition where the strength has to come from the timbers and where they're handy for fixing things to the wall, or in a subfloor where you want to spread point loads between joists.

Mellor

Pkiernan wrote: »

Is there a potential issue with having the horizontal cross members sp close to each other?
Normally I'd see them spaced out higher and lower

If they were high and low they’d be less effective.
Ideally they’d be in a perfect line, but offsetting by their depth allows them to be fixed easily

RobAMerc

rigtho - so I got cracking on the cladding this morning

I am a bit disappoointed that I wasnt skillful enough to be able to get the butt joint at the tops and over the doors so good I didnt need the mouldings - but hey.

Anyway - here is the outcome ...



Later I went and picked up some Cedar furniture stain to "Cerdarize" the cladding.

Sadly, I dont think its the colour I wanted - now I am fairly colour blind, so forgive me if I am wrong, but beneath is the colour I was going for ! I think I missed !

Supercell

Looks fantastic, fair play, looks like it will give you many years of enjoyment for your hard work, congrats.

RobAMerc

Supercell wrote: »

Looks fantastic, fair play, looks like it will give you many years of enjoyment for your hard work, congrats.

Thanks - but you get mine is the first one right ?:D

I think now that the cladding is never really gonna pull off the cedar look - I might be better off pulling it down and going trying Shou Sugi ban ( I wont try do it while its up ! )

I'll live with this for a while and see, or might try darken it a bit

iwillhtfu

It's very hard to replicate cedar colour the wood itself seems to have a warmth to it.

I'm a big fan of shou sugi ban its looks brilliant when done well and its pretty hard to make a bags of it. Get yourself a roofing blow torch and a drill attachment to rake it put after.

Brilliant work altogether well done.

runawaybishop

What's the story with the external finish, can you do what you want if it's at the back? If it was to the side would you need to match the house or what?

RobAMerc

iwillhtfu wrote: »

It's very hard to replicate cedar colour the wood itself seems to have a warmth to it.

I think I will try to "redden" it a little and maybe yacht varnish it to get the look. The deal has the grain but a lot more knots I think, maybe thats the difference.

iwillhtfu wrote: »

I'm a big fan of shou sugi ban its looks brilliant when done well and its pretty hard to make a bags of it.

wanna bet ?

iwillhtfu wrote: »

a drill attachment to rake it put after.

what does this mean ?

RobAMerc

runawaybishop wrote: »

What's the story with the external finish, can you do what you want if it's at the back? If it was to the side would you need to match the house or what?

Back of my house - i'll do what I like thanks ! :pac:
No rules I know of to specify the finish.

TimHorton

RobAMerc wrote: »

rigtho - so I got cracking on the cladding this morning

I am a bit disappoointed that I wasnt skillful enough to be able to get the butt joint at the tops and over the doors so good I didnt need the mouldings - but hey.

Anyway - here is the outcome ...



Later I went and picked up some Cedar furniture stain to "Cerdarize" the cladding.

Sadly, I dont think its the colour I wanted - now I am fairly colour blind, so forgive me if I am wrong, but beneath is the colour I was going for ! I think I missed !

This guy is a pro installer, He does the Cedar finish on all his jobs, He will be doing a video about how to get Cedar finish this week(He mentions this in yesterdays video) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChqWFbSX8STP_c8W0RVW1Xw/videos

Pkiernan

Mellor wrote: »

If they were high and low they’d be less effective.
Ideally they’d be in a perfect line, but offsetting by their depth allows them to be fixed easily

Thanks. Good to know!

iwillhtfu

RobAMerc wrote: »

what does this mean ?

After you burn it you rake out the burn't bits to get a nice finish. You can do it with a wire brush but on such long lengths your arms would be pulled off you. you can get a few different brushes that fit into a drill, nylon brushes and wire ones also. You could probably leave it raw also I know that's what they do on the roof of some of those log cabins out in the woods.

Here's a bit I did on a bike rack with cheap pine paneling.

RobAMerc

that looks superb !

Mellor

RobAMerc wrote: »

Back of my house - i'll do what I like thanks ! :pac:
No rules I know of to specify the finish.

He’s referring to the planning exemption that you’re availing of to build the room. There’s a clause about the finishes when its to the side of the house. Rear is do as you like though.

dodzy

Pkiernan wrote: »

Is there a potential issue with having the horizontal cross members sp close to each other?
Normally I'd see them spaced out higher and lower

None.

runawaybishop

RobAMerc wrote: »

Back of my house - i'll do what I like thanks ! :pac:
No rules I know of to specify the finish.

Fair enough, just curious because I am planning on building a shed myself.

Mellor wrote: »

He’s referring to the planning exemption that you’re availing of to build the room. There’s a clause about the finishes when its to the side of the house. Rear is do as you like though.

Yeah exactly.

RobAMerc

Yea, as far as i know there is no rules on finish if it cannot be seen from the front.

Post up your pics so.we can follow along, lots of useful hints and tips here.

dodzy

Will someone please turn off this poxy rain so we can get back to work!:mad:

rampantbunny

dodzy wrote: »

Will someone please turn off this poxy rain so we can get back to work!:mad:

I turned it off here in Galway, but might not be any good to you

dodzy

Put the wrapping paper on. Just waiting on the EPDM kit which I ordered from the UK. Got a 10% discount for mentioning the Ali Dymock build on YouTube. €497 all in. Cladding pick up tomorrow. Running 2.5sq today for elec and lighting. Also get slabbing the internal insulation. Hopefully rain stays away! Day 8.5 today. Spend to date €3200 which includes the EPDM and the 2 x sets of French doors.

DublinDilbert

dodzy wrote: »

Put the wrapping paper on. Just waiting on the EPDM kit which I ordered from the UK. Got a 10% discount for mentioning the Ali Dymock build on YouTube. €497 all in. Cladding pick up tomorrow. Running 2.5sq today for elec and lighting. Also get slabbing the internal insulation. Hopefully rain stays away! Day 8.5 today. Spend to date €3200 which includes the EPDM and the 2 x sets of French doors.

Looks great, 400mm spacing on walls and roof? 6x2 for the roof?

dodzy

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DublinDilbert wrote: »

Looks great, 400mm spacing on walls and roof? 6x2 for the roof?

Yes sir, spot on. And all treated timber. Overkill for the intended purpose but you’d be saving little trimming it back. Unproductive day unfortunately. A lot of running around - Ballymount / baldoyle / mitre saw packed up (electrical fault on PCB which we fixed with a bypass thank f*** as she still has a bit to do, got sidetracked onto a garden set that arrived and needed to be assembled (keep war office happy) but will belt into it tomorrow !

Class MayDresser

Much to assembling it? Always thought they came pre assembled.

dodzy

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Much to assembling it? Always thought they came pre assembled.

Flat pack. I thought they came assembled too. 1 box. 30mins. Quality is decent enough. But once I see a shoddy vacuum packed nut/bolt & washer pack, I never expect much. Anyway.... I’ll Proper bate into it tomorrow !

dodzy

I’ve a newfound respect for upc French door fitters. Jesus, a slog for the untrained. Anyway, doors up and all locking as they should - a lot of tweaking to get everything right. I’m sure a pro would have had it done in no time. Cladding has started. Now that’s a piece of piss thankfully!

RobAMerc

dodzy wrote: »

I’ve a newfound respect for upc French door fitters. Jesus, a slog for the untrained. Anyway, doors up and all locking as they should - a lot of tweaking to get everything right. I’m sure a pro would have had it done in no time. Cladding has started. Now that’s a piece of piss thankfully!

Looks great - I think ( as I am colourblind ) that thats the same colour as mine - I am going to have a crap ton left over as I didnt do 2 walls I had planned to.

If you ( or anyone else ) is looking for some ..... Its free to take away, with some J channel and starter strips.

DublinDilbert

RobAMerc wrote: »

Looks great - I think ( as I am colourblind ) that thats the same colour as mine - I am going to have a crap ton left over as I didnt do 2 walls I had planned to.

If you ( or anyone else ) is looking for some ..... Its free to take away, with some J channel and starter strips.

I would make use of it if you don't need it...

dodzy

DublinDilbert wrote: »

I would make use of it if you don't need it...

If it’s SAND I may well use it. DD there first of course 👍

DublinDilbert

dodzy wrote: »

If it’s SAND I may well use it. DD there first of course ðŸ‘

If it matches yours and you need it, go for it. I would use it, but will be placing an order, so not a big deal for me to order all that I need.

RobAMerc

rigtho - give me a coupla days to finish up and I'll see whats left - but it should be a good bit

this is the colour ...

dodzy

RobAMerc wrote: »

rigtho - give me a coupla days to finish up and I'll see whats left - but it should be a good bit

this is the colour ...

Cheers lads, out of interest, any reason you used a different colour corner piece? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me.

RobAMerc

reason = wife : originally she wanted Dark grey with white trims but he didnt have dark grey. I got white trims anyway.

dodzy

Got another day at it yesterday and a few hrs today before night shift tonight....
Starting to take shape. Roof arrived on Monday. Will have to wait until cladding and fascia/soffit is complete. This weekend will sort it.

RobAMerc

Brilliant job man, well done! Your transition from soffit to cladding looks way better than mine.

dodzy

Roof done along with all the finishing trims and fascia/soffit fully done. Gutter tomorrow and electrics. A quick plug for rubber4roofs in the UK. Everything needed in one pack. Great piece of kit altogether