Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

ACitizenErased

Onesea wrote: »

What is the days death toll minus any deaths from March or denotifications.

4 from Tuesday (and 3 from Monday)

is_that_so

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Here is The Journal now


Proper journalism

There was a chap from joe.ie who asked three smart questions in a row a week or so ago. At the very least there should be a show of questions to get in!

is_that_so

Onesea wrote: »

I haven't watched one of the condrences have only seen photos of him and descriptions of his dialoge here. Must be some serious pressure coming on him from big companies about now. He's dammed either way

Yeah, I recall a medical person saying this could possibly finish his career, way back in the very early days of this. I think the challenge for them is short attention spans measured in hours and days versus the much longer cycle of the disease.

mean gene

mean gene wrote: »

Why put the 7 from March in today what's the story

Its never been actual deaths in the last 24 hours. Its been deaths REPORTED in the last 24 hours, that could have happened at any time

Plumbthedepths

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, I recall a medical person saying this could possibly finish his career, way back in the very early days of this. I think the challenge for them is short attention spans measured in hours and days versus the much longer cycle of the disease.

If he is linked to what happened in the handling of nursing homes he's gone, the NHI seems determined to lay the blame squarely with him and various other state bodies. Paid off quietly and allowed to retire will be the outcome in the near future. He was asked to resign twice before over the Cervical smear scandal, but people in high office in Ireland seem to find resignation beneath them.

double jobbing

is_that_so wrote: »

There was a chap from joe.ie who asked three smart questions in a row a week or so ago. At the very least there should be a show of questions to get in!

I don't recall joe.ie asking about anything bar direct provision.

Nobody seems to realise that if DP wasn't full of spurious claimants from Albania, Bangladesh and other safe countries it wouldn't be remotely overcrowded.

BattleCorp

growleaves wrote: »

The balance of probabilities...for a droplet-transmitted virus? Unless there is gross dishonesty at play the only answer is "We don't know".

That's the standard in the civil courts.......balance of probabilities.

I'm using the scenario below to demonstrate my line of thinking/reasoning.

Supposing an employer doesn't send someone home when they present to work with the symptoms of COVID-19 (cough, temperature etc). They leave them there working away even though they have the symptoms of a dangerous virus. It's pretty reasonable and foreseeable to assume that they could spread the virus to other work colleagues. Do you agree with that part at least?

And if you agree that it's possible to get the virus from your co-worker in such a scenario, why is it beyond the balance of probabilities that you got the virus from your co-worker? (assuming that the co-worker actually tested positive for the virus).

owlbethere

Do you know with the road map and the easing of the restrictions,

How fast can they get the testing and the results turnaround done?
Also, how fast can they get the contract tracing done to isolate potential cases and take them out from circulation?

is_that_so

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

If he is linked to what happened in the handling of nursing homes he's gone, the NHI seems determined to lay the blame squarely with him and various other state bodies. Paid off quietly and allowed to retire will be the outcome in the near future. He was asked to resign twice before over the Cervical smear scandal, but people in high office in Ireland seem to find resignation beneath them.

Who knows what he'll do but it won't be the NHI. They are inclined to bluster a lot despite their own house far from being in order. There's a circle blame game of the H bodies in that sector, NHI - HSE - HIQA : rinse and repeat.

is_that_so

double jobbing wrote: »

I don't recall joe.ie asking about anything bar direct provision.

Nobody seems to realise that if DP wasn't full of spurious claimants from Albania, Bangladesh and other safe countries it wouldn't be remotely overcrowded.

Like all the rest it's often not the same person each day, just don't recall his name!

Plumbthedepths

is_that_so wrote: »

Who knows what he'll do but it won't be the NHI. They are inclined to bluster a lot despite their own house far from being in order. There's a circle blame game of the H bodies in that sector, NHI - HSE - HIQA : rinse and repeat.

The letters released from NHI to various government agencies seems to back up some of their claims. No one will come out of the nursing home scandal looking good .

New Home

Tony EH wrote: »

Reported for brutal violence. :pac:

fullstop

Gael23 wrote: »

Nice big number to stoke fear approaching the bank holiday

Do people who constantly post the likes of this actually believe the shyte they post? It was the same nonsense in the week leading up to Phase 1...”oh nice big number to scare everyone and nice excuse to delay phase 1”.

Just give it a rest.

Onesea

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its never been actual deaths in the last 24 hours. Its been deaths REPORTED in the last 24 hours, that could have happened at any time

Its a bit misleading, the amount of people that would misread the info. Anyways good news none the less

Jim_Hodge

Gael23 wrote: »

Nice big number to stoke fear approaching the bank holiday

Pointless post of the week.

Would you ever grow up?

What Username Guidelines

Onesea wrote: »

Its a bit misleading, the amount of people that would misread the info. Anyways good news none the less

Would be good if they published a chart by date of death rather than date of report. If some go back almost 2 months it’s hard to get a grasp of how it’s ascending/descending.

BattleCorp

New Home wrote: »

Reported for brutal violence. :pac:

Frogs are a protected species. Shocking breach of the European Habitats Directive and the Wildelife Act.

DevilsHaircut

The daily GP Covid diagnosis tracker now includes a breakdown of nursing home and healthcare settings vs community.

Yesterday 85.7% of diagnosed cases were in the community.


https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1265708095730331649

ACitizenErased

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

The daily GP Covid diagnosis tracker now includes a breakdown of nursing home and healthcare settings vs community.

Yesterday 85.7% of diagnosed cases were in the community.


https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1265708095730331649

Likely that the vast majority of those are close contacts. We began testing all contacts last week.

is_that_so

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The letters released from NHI to various government agencies seems to back up some of their claims. No one will come out of the nursing home scandal looking good .

Yeah and HIQA blame the HSE who mostly have to accept it. In conversation with someone who has worked with the sector, there are some that should be shut down forthwith and some which should never have been licensed. That also needs to be part of discussion.

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1265563344053899265?s=19

stephenjmcd

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Likely that the vast majority of those are close contacts. We began testing all contacts last week.

Close contacts, meat plants etc, huge range into the "in the community" category

ACitizenErased

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1265563344053899265?s=19

Interesting comments on this. The Spanish are reporting much milder cases.
https://twitter.com/ajgregory_tenor/status/1265565710333460480?s=21

Assetbacked

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1265563344053899265?s=19

Potentially that means that lockdown didn't have much of an impact to begin with if easing it didn't cause a surge in cases.

stephenjmcd

Assetbacked wrote: »

Potentially that means that lockdown didn't have much of an impact to begin with if easing it didn't cause a surge in cases.

Potentially, it just seems odd that despite the severity of restrictions in some countries everywhere seemed to hit peak in the same time frame.

Could be more to do with social distancing or increased hygiene, difficult to tell really

Plumbthedepths

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Potentially, it just seems odd that despite the severity of restrictions in some countries everywhere seemed to hit peak in the same time frame.

Could be more to do with social distancing or increased hygiene, difficult to tell really

I can hear the approaching stampede.

stephenjmcd

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I can hear the approaching stampede.

Well its backed up across Europe, I was sceptical looking at just one country but it's a trend right across.

Pretty difficult to know though what way it plays out, everyone has their own opinion, even some scientists and researches have broad differing opinions. Its kind of a wait and see if continues in small numbers, dies off or kicks off again.

fr336

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Community tranmission is virtually 0. The majority of current cases are in the community but close contacts. This means that they are based in the community, but they can track where it has been caught from.

How does this work? Someone catches Covid at the peak of the epidemic, brings it home, either shows symptoms or doesn't, passes it onto another person who may not display symptoms for 2 weeks? Then that person infects someone else in the household? Seems a bit far fetched to me, surely if it's transmitting through households someone in the same household would infect people within a day or at most a few days? Not weeks after they caught it themselves. No community transmission? Hmmm.

Assetbacked

Assetbacked wrote: »

Potentially that means that lockdown didn't have much of an impact to begin with if easing it didn't cause a surge in cases.

Lockdown suppresses, distancing controls. Look at Sweden, under control but at a high level. It is becoming clear that all over Europe, lockdown with easing to various distancing and enhanced hygiene measures has been the best strategy

Onesea

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I can hear the approaching stampede.

Careful now, down with that sort of talk