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Farage highlighting illegal migration chaos

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    #272
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    biko wrote: »
    If we apply Epicurus' trilemma onto the British government:

    If the government is unable to prevent illegal immigration, then they are not a good government.
    If the government is unwilling to prevent illegal immigration, then they are not a good government.
    If the government is both willing and able to prevent illegal immigration, then why does illegal immigration exist?




    quite simply, individuals wish to improve their lives and will do whatever they can to do it, and go wherever they can to do so, by whatever means necessary, to achieve it.

    2u2me wrote: »
    It seems Sky News were out on a boat of their own. They're allowed though because they're real journalists.



    correct, they are real journalists.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #273
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    end of the road wrote: »
    correct, they are real journalists.

    Do you not see the hypocrisy here? Farage was out on a boat few days ago reporting on exactly the same thing. People said he wasn't a real journalist and shouldn't have been allowed out during the lockdown, insisting he had broken the rules because he wasn't a journalist. Insisting it wasn't a story worth reporting on.


    Now sky news do a story it is worth reporting on and it is real journalism. It's the hypocrisy I'm trying to point out.


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    #274
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    2u2me wrote: »
    Do you not see the hypocrisy here? Farage was out on a boat few days ago reporting on exactly the same thing. People said he wasn't a real journalist and shouldn't have been allowed out during the lockdown, insisting he had broken the rules because he wasn't a journalist. Insisting it wasn't a story worth reporting on.


    Now sky news do a story it is worth reporting on and it is real journalism. It's the hypocrisy I'm trying to point out.

    it's not that there is no story to report on, it is that an individual went out on a boat in the aim of pushing an agenda to his little group of lapdogs, whereas the sky news journalists are out on a boat to actually report the story in the aim of reporting the news.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #275
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    end of the road wrote: »
    it's not that there is no story to report on, it is that an individual went out on a boat in the aim of pushing an agenda to his little group of lapdogs, whereas the sky news journalists are out on a boat to actually report the story in the aim of reporting the news.

    Farage reports on a story: individual on a boat pushing an agenda to his little group of lapdogs.
    Sky news report on same story: Journalists on a boat to actually report the story.

    Ok got it.. no bias here at all.

    How about Sky news's agenda of making money?

    Personally I don't care who reports on a story as long as it's truthful.


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    #276
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    Did you respond to the wrong person? Because I'm the one who's still waiting for evidence for your earlier lies claims that parts of Dublin have been "taken over".

    Still waiting, by the way.

    I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong then.


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    #277
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    Did you respond to the wrong person? Because I'm the one who's still waiting for evidence for your earlier lies claims that parts of Dublin have been "taken over".

    Still waiting, by the way.

    There are parts of Dublin I would not like to live in regardless !!


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    #278
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    2u2me wrote: »
    Farage reports on a story: individual on a boat pushing an agenda to his little group of lapdogs.
    Sky news report on same story: Journalists on a boat to actually report the story.

    Ok got it.. no bias here at all.

    How about Sky news's agenda of making money?

    Personally I don't care who reports on a story as long as it's truthful.




    sky news don't make any secret of the fact that they are there to make money, in fact plenty of privately owned media organisations are there to make money.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #279
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://twitter.com/Hookie62/status/1264482439600185344?s=19


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    #280
    silverharp
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    who was saying there are no sports at the moment, wacky races English channel

    https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1265220930772615174

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #281
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    silverharp wrote: »
    who was saying there are no sports at the moment, wacky races English channel

    https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1265220930772615174
    Why dont they
    British navy just escort them back to French waters at night .


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    #282
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭Cordell


    They won't turn back, so what else can they do? They can't do to them what they will do to us if we try to force our way through.


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    #283
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Cordell wrote: »
    They won't turn back, so what else can they do? They can't do to them what they will do to us if we try to force our way through.

    Seek asylum in the first safe country Hungary is doing it .


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    #284
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭Cordell


    My question was about what else can UK do.
    The people on those boards were in a safe place and they choose to board into a very unsafe trip, so clearly safety is not what they're after, that's the reality and there's very little to be done about it.


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    #285
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Cordell wrote: »
    My question was about what else can UK do.
    The people on those boards were in a safe place and they choose to board into a very unsafe trip, so clearly safety is not what they're after, that's the reality and there's very little to be done about it.

    I'd say what they could do, but I would probably be banned. If this was happening to any other Countries the talking heads in the UN, EU and NATO would be declaring this an invasion and attempted genocide. Since its our Countries its called "Cultural Enrichment" and we're racists, etc for questioning it.


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    #286
    end of the road
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    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    I'd say what they could do, but I would probably be banned. If this was happening to any other Countries the talking heads in the UN, EU and NATO would be declaring this an invasion. Since its our Countries its called "Cultural Enrichment" and we're racists, etc for questioning it.


    no they would be calling it a refugee crisis, and would not be calling anyone racist, unless they actually are and show they are so.
    you can question whatever you like as long as you are able to accept your questioning is open to challenge.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #287
    DelaneyIn
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DelaneyIn


    end of the road wrote: »
    no they would be calling it a refugee crisis, and

    would not be calling anyone racist, unless they actually are and show they are so.
    you can question whatever you like as long as you are able to accept your questioning is open to challenge.

    How is this a refugee crisis? They’re “fleeing” from France to the U.K.


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    #288
    end of the road
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    DelaneyIn wrote: »
    How is this a refugee crisis? They’re “fleeing” from France to the U.K.


    i would imagine it's because they aren't actually from france but from elsewhere.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #289
    DelaneyIn
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DelaneyIn


    end of the road wrote: »
    i would imagine it's because they aren't actually from france but from elsewhere.

    How many safe countries have they passed through to get to the U.K.? How can they be refugees when they’ve passed through numerous safe countries?

    What are they fleeing from in France? The French?


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    #290
    tawnyowl
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭tawnyowl


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Looks like the Police have had to get on to the little scumbag:



    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-visited-by-police-over-lockdown-breaches-over-dover-travel-a4431871.html


    Wonder if he'll claim he was testing his eyesight like Dominic Cummings?


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    #291
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    end of the road wrote: »
    i would imagine it's because they aren't actually from france but from elsewhere.

    I wonder how many will fail the criteria to be classed as refugees .


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    #292
    end of the road
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    DelaneyIn wrote: »
    How many safe countries have they passed through to get to the U.K.? How can they be refugees when they’ve passed through numerous safe countries?

    What are they fleeing from in France? The French?

    they are refugees as they are seeking refuge from whatever.
    a safe country to us may not be a safe enough country to them for whatever reasons, hence they are going to where they feel is safe, based i would expect on already knowing people there perhapse.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #293
    DelaneyIn
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DelaneyIn


    end of the road wrote: »
    they are refugees as they are seeking refuge from whatever.
    a safe country to us may not be a safe enough country to them for whatever reasons, hence they are going to where they feel is safe, based i would expect on already knowing people there perhapse.

    Refugees aim to flee a particular country, not travel through numerous safe countries to get to a European country with generous welfare.


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    #294
    epo addict
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭epo addict


    Asylum seekers and refugees are the enemy of Europe. wake up everyone


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    #295
    RWCNT
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    splashuum wrote: »
    Even if some of these people qualified as refugees, one can only claim refugee status in the first safe country you come to, many boats stop in France first but then travel to the UK afterwards.

    Not the case, no matter how many times people may like to repeat it.


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    #296
    ambro25
    Registered Users Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    DelaneyIn wrote: »
    Refugees aim to flee a particular country, not travel through numerous safe countries to get to a European country with generous welfare.
    Is that meant to be the UK?

    :pac:


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    #297
    end of the road
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    DelaneyIn wrote: »
    Refugees aim to flee a particular country, not travel through numerous safe countries to get to a European country with generous welfare.


    britain's wellfare is hardly generous in fairness.
    anyway, i would expect not all are traveling to a country to claim wellfare, especially as it's unlikely they would get it anyway.
    epo addict wrote: »
    Asylum seekers and refugees are the enemy of Europe. wake up everyone


    no they aren't, grow up.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #298
    Cordell
    Registered Users Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭Cordell


    They are not the enemy, let's not blow this out of proportions. More dangerous enemies are the likes of Farage and Le Pen.
    But they are illegals with nothing to offer, and not entitled to anything in Europe. If they make a difference it will be one for the worse.


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    #299
    end of the road
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    Cordell wrote: »
    They are not the enemy, let's not blow this out of proportions. More dangerous enemies are the likes of Farage and Le Pen.
    But they are illegals with nothing to offer, and not entitled to anything in Europe. If they make a difference it will be one for the worse.


    illegals, yes.
    nothing to offer, cannot be said without surveying every single one of them.
    not entitled to anything in europe, generally for individual governments to decide so they may in fact be so depending on the country.
    if they make a difference it will be one for the worst, cannot be said with any certainty, some very may will make a difference for the worst and others not so.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #300
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    end of the road wrote: »
    illegals, yes.
    nothing to offer, cannot be said without surveying every single one of them.
    not entitled to anything in europe, generally for individual governments to decide so they may in fact be so depending on the country.
    if they make a difference it will be one for the worst, cannot be said with any certainty, some very may will make a difference for the worst and others not so.

    Whatever the outcome few will leave or be deported .


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    #301
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,101 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    Whatever the outcome few will leave or be deported .




    that could turn out to be the case yes, however i couldn't say with any certainty as to what if anything will happen in either direction as i do not know.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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