Farage highlighting illegal migration chaos

Peregrinus

keano_afc wrote: »

"Its not true because I dont like the person who said it".

More a case of "I'm sceptical that it's true because I don't trust the person who said it, who has a track record of saying thing that turn out not to be true".

Atlantic Dawn

Why is France do bad that they want to leave?

mick087

What would make people take such risks to cross the channel?
What are they fleeing from?
Why does it seem to be all young men?
It would be good to hear the refugees immigrants side of the story.

Its important that there is help there if these do run into any trouble when crossing the channel.

Icaras

Chips Lovell wrote: »

“Nigel Farage Investigates” sounds like a bad ITV crime drama.

I'd love it, and at the end of every show he turns to the camera and says "It was them immigrants all along! Case closed"

kenmm

Still waters wrote: »

Easy there princess, i merely posed the question, you need to reply with facts and leave you're very obvious emotions for twitter and Facebook

But its ok to attempt a misogynistic troll in order to try and get a rise out of another poster?

greenfield21

The work Nigel farage has done for the UK is incredible, Brexit now he's driving change on illegal immigration. He will be remembered for generations to come. It's also great to see all the leftists on boards making a fool of themselves trying to argue against him. Great to see he can still change the tide.

Rodney Bathgate

Icaras wrote: »

I'd love it, and at the end of every show he turns to the camera and says "It was them immigrants all along! Case closed"

Case closed when they are deported.

TheBlackPill

France will not give the same soft-touch welfare deal that the British will

Still waters

Peregrinus wrote: »

If you want the facts on this, why are you asking me what their reasons are?

I didnt ask you anything, it was a general question as to why they carry on to britain risking their lives when any safe country would surely do

Peregrinus

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why is France do bad that they want to leave?

It may not be so much that France is bad, as that there are attractions that draw them to the UK. Those attractions are unlikely to be benefits and accommodation, though, since those are available in France. In particular, they are unlikely to be the rating of the hotel rooms in which they will be temporarily accommodated; that's an unbelievably trivial consideration.

Factors that might draw them to the UK include:

- They have English, and feel this will make it easier for them to rebuild a meaningful life in the UK than in France.

- They have family or community connections with people already in the UK, and feel again that this will make resettlement easier.

- They have a high regard for the UK, based on a belief that it is a safe country with well-entrenched liberal values (which, again, would facilitate resettlement).

- They come from a country which has historic links with the UK, and feel - rightly or wrongly - that they know the UK better than other European countries, or at least that it will be a more familiar environment for them.

- They are in the hands of agents whose people-moving networks are directed towards the UK. (A signficant proportion of people who apply for asylum in the UK actually wished to go to Germany, but couldn't connect with a network that would get them there, and didn't feel able to make the journey independently.)

Still waters

kenmm wrote: »

But its ok to attempt a misogynistic troll in order to try and get a rise out of another poster?

Icaras

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Case closed when they are deported.

I don't think he'd really want them deported because if he was too successful he'd end up with no foreigners to blame for all the brit problems.

weldoninhio

Peregrinus wrote: »

Again, even if its correct that it's easier to work on the black market in the UK, this doesn't stack up as a reason. Why would you want to work on the black market in the UK when you could work legitimately in France? Why would asylum seekers risk their lives to go to a place where they enjoy less social protection?

Because they have no right to asylum. This may amaze you, but some people lie about needing asylum or don't even bother applying for it.

1800_Ladladlad

We all know that they've been dumping their IDs etc for some time now.
It needs to be stopped.

https://twitter.com/lumpit/status/1291407016024518656

ancapailldorcha

keano_afc wrote: »

"Its not true because I dont like the person who said it".

I prefer better sources than sneering comments and the word of grifters. To each their own.

kenmm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

We all know that they've been dumping their IDs etc for some time now.
It needs to be stopped.

https://twitter.com/lumpit/status/1291407016024518656

2020 - what a time to be alive.

The very concept of mainstream journalism has been cast into doubt with terminology such as fake news and other means to destabalise and control.

But an unsubstantiated and badly edited, unsourced, unverifiable video on social media - we lap that **** up as fact, no question.

biko

Why do people risk their lives to get to the UK?

Asylum seekers continue to flock to Calais in the hope of reaching Britain because France does so little to help new arrivals find work, retrain or integrate, a group of immigrants has told MPs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/09/we-want-to-work-refugees-tell-france-why-uk-is-so-attractive

Asking migrants "'Why do you want to come to the UK?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJbqsBALucA

Rodney Bathgate

biko wrote: »

Why do people risk their lives to get to the UK?



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/09/we-want-to-work-refugees-tell-france-why-uk-is-so-attractive

Asking migrants "'Why do you want to come to the UK?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJbqsBALucA

Britain will be overloaded with doctors and engineers.

topper75

listermint wrote: »

As for the migration, little sympathy for the UK. When you send your troops into countries and tear them apart leaving little to no economic activity and wastelands of rubble . Then getting upset when the inhabitants look to you for help.. well. Yeah good luck with that.

Not a fan of UK colonial history either. Few Irish are.

But all the same - is it not peculiar to you that when these countries are 'torn apart' that it is largely the young men who get to escape ultimately?

Despite the Brits best efforts, they didn't invade everywhere so your theory doesn't explain Morocco, Georgia or Albania etc. In addition, most of their nefarious meddlings in far-flung nations took place several generations ago.

The only solution is handcuffs and RN escort back the French coast. Heavy on resources yes, but a lot lighter than the benefits bill for this lot.

StackSteevens

Peregrinus wrote: »

I do not know why they want to risk their lives to seek asylum in the UK;

If that is true - which I strongly doubt - then you really shouldn't be posting on this thread as you have nothing informative to contribute.

Kidchameleon

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I prefer better sources than sneering comments and the word of grifters. To each their own.

In other words, there is high quality video evidence that counters your prefered narritive so rather than accept it, your sticking your head in the sand.

Rodney Bathgate

Kidchameleon wrote: »

In other words, there is high quality video evidence that counters your prefered narritive so rather than accept it, your sticking your head in the sand.

Don’t forget throwing in ‘grifters’ for good measure.

Nermal

greenfield21 wrote: »

The work Nigel farage has done for the UK is incredible, Brexit now he's driving change on illegal immigration. He will be remembered for generations to come. It's also great to see all the leftists on boards making a fool of themselves trying to argue against him. Great to see he can still change the tide.

He is easily the most significant British political figure in half a century.

Only six pages in the thread and he's been called 'not honest or reliable', 'not a credible source', 'known liar, scammer and racist', 'grifter', 'only interested in profiting off nonsense', 'joke of a man', 'an embarrassment'.

They just don't really want to genuinely address him or the people he represents. The insults they throw at him just help him.

listermint

biko wrote: »

In 2019 it was only at least 1800 using the channel.
I guess we have to wait for this year's report

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/world/europe/migrant-boats-uk.html

So 1800 versus your asserted 54000.



Right.... 'alot' is it...:rolleyes:

listermint

topper75 wrote: »

Not a fan of UK colonial history either. Few Irish are.

But all the same - is it not peculiar to you that when these countries are 'torn apart' that it is largely the young men who get to escape ultimately?

Despite the Brits best efforts, they didn't invade everywhere so your theory doesn't explain Morocco, Georgia or Albania etc. In addition, most of their nefarious meddlings in far-flung nations took place several generations ago.

The only solution is handcuffs and RN escort back the French coast. Heavy on resources yes, but a lot lighter than the benefits bill for this lot.

Ah yes the often touted young men jibe. Always confused by the fact that it was the same here when Irish emigrated everywhere young men sent to find work and send money home.

Is this really something you think you uncovered... It's been the same for hundreds of years.

rgossip30

kenmm wrote: »

2020 - what a time to be alive.

The very concept of mainstream journalism has been cast into doubt with terminology such as fake news and other means to destabalise and control.

But an unsubstantiated and badly edited, unsourced, unverifiable video on social media - we lap that **** up as fact, no question.

You are right they dont destroy passports or ID's its fake .

keano_afc

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I prefer better sources than sneering comments and the word of grifters. To each their own.

Grand so, thats what the GMB link is for.

listermint

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

We all know that they've been dumping their IDs etc for some time now.
It needs to be stopped.

https://twitter.com/lumpit/status/1291407016024518656

Intriguing twitter video with a boat full of folks pumping tunes out all celebrating then cuts immediately to no boat no music and just a hand throwing random cards overboard. I always go to twitter for my information and fully verified videos. Obviously the boat even says on it heading to Dover so we can be extra sure.

ancapailldorcha

keano_afc wrote: »

Grand so, thats what the GMB link is for.

I didn't have a problem with the GMB link.

Dravokivich

creeper1 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/4VvzKM9q95w

Unbelievable! When you consider how risky and the very real risk of death presented by crossing from Calais to Dover in a dinghy you would have thought the British would do as the Australians did and process them offshore making sure to reduce insensitives as much as possible.

This is irresponsible in the extreme. People WILL die making this crossing because successful arrivals are being put up in 4 star hotels.

Why isn’t this being reported more widely?

Don't people often swim that section for leisure?