Summer 2020 - General Discussion

firemansam4

Slashermcguirk wrote:

The people on here should spend a summer in Scotland and they will know real rain

Or Donegal....

pauldry

Casement has had over 3 times its Normal rainfall for July so far

Lucky for Dublin though there will be some sunny days to go with the rainy ones

In the West it will be cloudy ones to go with the rainy ones and temperatures never reaching 20c there. (though slight changes next week could alter this)

Then onto August..........

SleetAndSnow

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Again, not all the country enjoyed the weather in spring. I made a big post a while back with the days of rain etc and there was more then 4 in cork and days where it wasn't warm down here. We had *a lot* of grey, drizzly days that went on for a week at a time but accumulated nothing. This has been said by multiple people down south multiple times, but dancinpants must have been in a different part, cork is a big county!

Any chance the fight between spring and summer can stop now because we can all agree this summer has been very poor and the weather that we got in spring has nothing to do with how this summer is faring out.

Back on topic, awful weather again today. Foggy, cold and drizzling down in West cork.

I'm in the city and we never got a week of grey, drizzly weather. Not sure where you are. We got a couple of two day-rain events here that the rest of the country didn't get and it wasn't as sunny as parts of the east and the west.

Where are you based?

Without wanting to sound patronising, you sound young. When you have more springs under your belt, you might learn to appreciate the good ones!

Gonzo

compsys wrote: »

In fairness Gonzo I think you feel the chill a bit more than others I doubt everyone in the country has been lighting a fire every evening. I know I haven't.

It depends on the house you live in. My house is an old house built in the early 1970s with poor insulation so the cold builds inside the house over the winter and slowly eases during the Spring. House did warm up nicely during May and early June but with all the cold and wet conditions the house is now back cold again. I don't need the fire every evening July but my father does he has really been feeling the chills recently with all the dampness in the air.

I've talked to several neighbors in the area and they too have either had their central heating on every evening or a fire lit.

John.Icy

I think both extremes are present on here. Some feel the chill far more than others for sure, I have a cold old house and only ever fired up the boiler on maybe 3 occasions (for an hour each time) since the start of June.

But at the same time, you have people on here when it hits 16 degrees and sunny spells and it's a 'scorcher!!! stunning day'.

I think there are just some people who put extra sauce in their posts simply because they can. Living in Dublin, I'm pretty close to several active posters and over the years, some of the guff I've seen over the hurricanes, white out blizzards and road melting heat in my local area...just makes me laugh!

appledrop

Jesus it is cold! Now I don't want anyone telling me to wrap up + not that bad because I have just been out for walk + it is!

12 degrees wtf. I know yesterday was cold but didn't leave house as lashing all day.

At least dry earlier so got out for brisk walk on lunch break+ then lashing again on my way home.This is without a doubt worse July ever in Dublin.

Cold, wet + miserable.

By the way I love a good rant on this thread. Im a realist rather than an optimistic. If its **** weather for summer Im going to say it as it is+ if weather brilliant then will be delighted.

Spring 2020 was amazing but unfortunately it all went downhill in June.

Slashermcguirk

first off i never said June was any good for weather, i said that it was poor compared to the great spring we had. Surely you and nobody on here though we would get 6 consecutive months of sunshine! The weather has been quite poor lately, I completely agree on that but is the 8th July, one week into July and everyone talking like July and August are a write off, its just ridiculous. When I said the outlook is good i am going by Met Eireanns forecast for the week ahead, it is their job to predict the weather and they have said from tomorrow the weather will improve a lot. I know they get it wrong a lot but all i am going on is their forecasts.

I just find the moaning on here relentless. We all know June wasnt a good month and the first week of July has also been poor but there are still about 2/3 of summer to play for. People need to get a grip, it is very hard for anyone to predict more than 5 days ahead and we could end up getting a heatwave in a couple of weeks for all we know.

Donegal Storm wrote: »

While I'd agree the depression on here gets a bit much, your constant 'it's grand' posts are just as annoying and inaccurate as the ones you're criticising. Syran confirmed June was the least sunny since '93 which for many here will be in living memory and the first 8 says of July are about as bad as I've ever experienced. It's also been extremely windy throughout, all the leaves are brown around here from wind damage and there's barely been a dry day since the end of May.


There's also nothing particularly settled in the forecast, today looks like another write off and tomorrow predictably is now also forecast for rain in the morning and heavy showers in the afternoon. Friday-Sunday a small improvement (though still showery around here) before another wet day on Monday

Neddyusa

compsys wrote: »

Weather evens itself out so I'd disagree. We all know that year after year good springs are rarely followed by very good summers.

Yes - It would amaze you how many weather enthusiasts fail to understand how our weather averages out to the "average" climatic conditions over the year.

An exceptionally good spring is highly unlikely to be followed by anything better than an average summer - simple law of averages.

Yes June was poor - but here in the west we had below average rainfall up until mid month. So really it has only been only 3 - 4 weeks of wetter than normal to date.

The recency bias really comes into play big time on the weather forum.
People quickly forget the great weather in May.
And if we get a warm sunny week at the end of this month people will also forget the current wet spell.

Pangea

Heavy rain here in Donegal , didn't expect the rain this far north

Gonzo

I do believe weather evens itself out over a year but the way I see it is:

August 2019-February 2020: 7 months of deluges and rainfall off the scale in places.

March-May 2020: relatively dry and mild at times with some warmth towards the end. This was making up for the deluges to begin with and was badly needed to ease the flooding in February and dry out the land.

June to mid July 2020: mostly cloudy, cool much of the time, very wet in places with rainfall averages being well exceeded again, sunshine well below average.

If it wasn't for the dry Spring this year we really would be in severe trouble at this stage with flooding if the 7 month deluge had continued into the Spring with the current unsettled conditions persisting.

I feel we are still owed some dry spells and warmer temperatures by the weather gods to even things out.

I also feel everyone here is fully entitled to voice their disappointment with this first half of summer every bit as much as they are entitled to voice their delight during a warm and sunny summer or a cold and snowy winter spell. This is why we are here to discuss the weather and it doesn't always go the way we like it.

km79

http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1280866869633781762

“The ground is saturated “

Xenji

Just as an aside it has now been 25 years since Newport recorded a summer with less than 200mm of rain, so some people can have every right to gripe and at the same time we cannot all be blessed to be a womble of the phoenix park, for such a small country we have major extremes geographically in our weather.

appledrop

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1280866869633781762

“The ground is saturated “

About time. Gob****es.



Maybe we will get a heat wave now!!!!!!!!!!!!

nacho libre

Gonzo wrote: »

This is up there with the worst summer weather I can remember since 2012. We stopped lighting fires in May and started lighting them during the second half of June and here we are heading towards the middle of July and fires still being lit every evening. 2012 was the last time we lit regular fires in July.

You're obviously a bit younger than me because the Summer of '86 was similiar to this. Day after day of wet and cold weather.
In one way i'm not surprised things turned out as they have, given we had a six month deluge prior to the long settled spell. Mother nature does have a way of evening the score. So with that in mind we probably will get some proper settled weather eventually- i just hope we don't have to wait till September

giveitholly

appledrop wrote: »

About time. Gob****es.



Maybe we will get a heat wave now!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are Irish Water gob****es? When they brought in the ban the majority of the country was in near drought conditions and water levels were at record lows in places,If the dry weather had continued and they had to turn off water in the evening to conserve water then there would be even more outrage. You are hardly blaming them for the recent wet weather?

Gonzo

nacho libre wrote: »

You're obviously a bit younger than me because the Summer of '86 was similiar to this. Day after day of wet and cold weather.
In one way i'm not surprised things turned out as they have, given we had a six month deluge prior to the long settled spell. Mother nature does have a way of evening the score. So with that in mind we probably will get some proper settled weather eventually- i just hope we don't have to wait till September

I didn't pay too much attention to the summer weather in 86, all I cared about back then was days off school due to snow. I think I was in Spain for much of that summer where I spent the majority of my childhood summers.

If we don't get any decent dry spells till September then that will have to do because Septembers can be surprisingly sunny and warm. I have more memories of warm and sunny Septembers than I do of warm and sunny Augusts.

4Ad

Rain all day in East Clare, warm though, 16 degrees...

Gaoth Laidir

pauldry wrote: »

If the Arctic keeps melting away Summers like this may be rare indeed

Luckily it's stopped melting a long time ago

pauldry

???? What you mean

Gaoth Laidir

pauldry wrote: »

???? What you mean

That's for a whole different thread...

compsys

Gonzo wrote: »

I do believe weather evens itself out over a year but the way I see it is:

August 2019-February 2020: 7 months of deluges and rainfall off the scale in places.

March-May 2020: relatively dry and mild at times with some warmth towards the end. This was making up for the deluges to begin with and was badly needed to ease the flooding in February and dry out the land.

June to mid July 2020: mostly cloudy, cool much of the time, very wet in places with rainfall averages being well exceeded again, sunshine well below average.

If it wasn't for the dry Spring this year we really would be in severe trouble at this stage with flooding if the 7 month deluge had continued into the Spring with the current unsettled conditions persisting.

I feel we are still owed some dry spells and warmer temperatures by the weather gods to even things out.

I also feel everyone here is fully entitled to voice their disappointment with this first half of summer every bit as much as they are entitled to voice their delight during a warm and sunny summer or a cold and snowy winter spell. This is why we are here to discuss the weather and it doesn't always go the way we like it.

'Relatively dry' for March-May? PP had its driest spring on record. I'm sure Meath wasn't far off.

who_ru

the weather is the same all year round now, the problem is we expect seasons, when really we don't get any.

Last December 26 2019 - 12c and raining. i remember it because of a club sporting event. exact same as june and july 2020 more or less.

BTW it's slightly worse in Japan at the moment. but yeah i can understand people's reaction to our 'summer', but essentially we don't get weather here, just the same damp, relatively mild conditions all year round.

compsys

who_ru wrote: »

the weather is the same all year round now, the problem is we expect seasons, when really we don't get any.

Last December 26 2019 - 12c and raining. i remember it because of a club sporting event. exact same as june and july 2020 more or less.

BTW it's slightly worse in Japan at the moment. but yeah i can understand people's reaction to our 'summer', but essentially we don't get weather here, just the same damp, relatively mild conditions all year round.

I kind of agree.

I mean we rarely get three months of cold, frosty weather in winter followed by three months of hot, sunny and dry weather in summer.

However we do get very wintry days in winter and some lovely summer days in summer (even during the bad ones). Just not enough for the seasons to feel clearly defined.

In terms of temps though, our summers have remained fairly the same if not gotten slightly warmer over the past two decades. It's the far milder winter temps that are really throwing off the seasons imo.

Donegal Storm

Pangea wrote: »

Heavy rain here in Donegal , didn't expect the rain this far north

Same in Letterkenny. Have to echo what people have been saying in that the met forecasts have been awful recently, even yesterday evening when I last checked the forecast today was supposed to be dry with sunny spells in the north

pad199207

Horrible day again in Kildare as expected 10mm in the gauge. 14mm yesterday. Christ it wouldn’t be as bad as this in winter.

Gonzo

light to moderate rain here in Meath all afternoon. Apart from Monday which was dry, the rain has been relentless here over the past 7 to 10 days with only very brief moments without rain, drizzle or a damp mist.

Gonzo

pad199207 wrote: »

Horrible day again in Kildare as expected 10mm in the gauge. 14mm yesterday. Christ it wouldn’t be as bad as this in winter.

Not as bad as October 2019 or February 2020 but not far off, especially considering we are now in the height of summer. Every week we get hope that something warmer and dryer is just around the corner and then just one more low at a time spoils things.

Next weeks high pressure is now looking close to a bust too. ECM and GFS now unsettled for Monday and Tuesday with the chance of high pressure being pushed back further into FI. The GFS since this morning is now trending another relatively cool and unsettled week next with rain and temperatures in the low to mid teens much of the time, with the high pressure staying to our south.

esposito

Back in Dublin and it’s a piss poor day and feeling cold at 12C I gave in and turned on the heating.

I remember watching reeling in the years 1986 and it showed them opening up Knock airport in the awful weather conditions. This year is reminding of that summer which I believe was a washout.

kingshankly

Has there ever been a worse opening week in July

Gonzo

esposito wrote: »

Back in Dublin and it’s a piss poor day and feeling cold at 12C I gave in and turned on the heating.

I remember watching reeling in the years 1986 and it showed them opening up Knock airport in the awful weather conditions. This year is reminding of that summer which I believe was a washout.

June was poor but this July is absolutely atrocious. Up to yesterday Dunsany was sitting at 48.8mm of rain for the first 7 days of July. Since yesterday we've had close to another 20mm of rain so within one week of July we're already getting close to the July mean of 61.4mm of rainfall.

Temperatures have been disgraceful this month too, our mean is 15.2, at the moment we are only at 13.8C, a degree and a half below average for the time of year. I think this will fall more over the next few days as the next few days are looking very cool for the time of year.

If this spell of weather is to continue all the way through July we could be looking at one of the coolest and dullest July's on record. Next week's improvement is now beginning to look in doubt, so it's entirely possible this time next week we could still be sitting under the same flat westerly pattern with low's rolling in every few days.