Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

LiquidZeb

storker wrote: »

Nice try, but weasel-worded digs were plain to see. Actually the bit of Latin was intended as light-hearted olive branch but that got you in a snot too. :rolleyes:

Review some of the posts by you and your fellow travellers and what you've been saying about other contributors, their characters and their lives. If you want to talk hate, take a look in the mirror, Dr Freud.

So you're calling me a traveller now? All the Latin in the world couldn't cover up how full of crap you are.

Rjd2

boring accountant wrote: »

No apparently as humans only need water and food to survive anyone who doesn’t work in Tesco is irrelevant.

Germany opened hairdressers recently, barber and the customer wears masks while strict hygiene standards are enforced, that's the type of common sense that is needed. We can reopen certain parts of the industry if we enforce strict hygiene, demand is their and obviously would be good for the economy.

But sure what would Merkel know.

RobitTV

I haven't posted on Boards for quite a while now. But today i felt i had to come on here and express how i feel about a minority of people who are bashing pubs for no good reason.

Some people go to the pub because it may the only form of social contact they get all week long. As i have got older many of my friends have moved away and i had to adapt to that happening by putting myself out there more and meeting new people and trying to spark conversations.

It's such a great way of forming friendships and it's also a way of making yourself feel better by having a conservation with someone. Some people are really isolated right now and you can just tell that depression is building daily for those people.

It's very sad what is happening right now. It's not all about going down the pub and getting smashed. People need social contact and that's a natural human instinct.

The lockdown phase's are a joke and we need to rescue the economy right now. We can't let this continue any further and have overwhelming unemployment while the number of cases are now plunging like a stone.

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1263495438080061441?s=19

JL555

Damn, had to go out today to a builder's providers shop to get something for an emergency repair, had no choice but to bring my son, a big sign saying, Children Not Allowed, I drove to woodies, it was chaos, the car park was full, I noticed the queue to get in, asked a lady how long was she waiting, 45 mins and there was still about 40 people in front of her.

What the hell!!!

Ginger n Lemon

JL555 wrote: »

Damn, had to go out today to a builder's providers shop to get something for an emergency repair, had no choice but to bring my son, a big sign saying, Children Not Allowed, I drove to woodies, it was chaos, the car park was full, I noticed the queue to get in, asked a lady how long was she waiting, 45 mins and there was still about 40 people in front of her.

What the hell!!!

Our government is destroying businesses. Theyve been at it for months now so hardly surprising.

PS in relation to pubs poster here, pubs are also what this country is famous for. Temple Bar anyone? This govt needs a shake up, they are way too obsessed with looking for some idiotic "if you spend 2 hours in a room with a person and they later have symptoms you need to quarantine, they need to quarantine, 14 days etc etc" Yeah the 2 people are 10 metres apart and nobody sneezed, get a life and get real and look to balance economics and health when making decisions that affect 5 million fk*ng people

lawrencesummers

polesheep wrote: »

Not true. My wife's car broke down and she could not get a mechanic to repair it. Thankfully, a very generous neighbour loaned her his car until I could repair hers myself.

So you didn’t need a mechanic after all.

lawrencesummers

boring accountant wrote: »

Every one of those “core jobs” you describe exists because of the taxes provided by the jobs you call irrelevant. Without car sales and hair salons there are no nurses and doctors. This is the basis of any modern economy. Comments like yours are scarcely believable and almost certainly trolling.

The VRT on a single car sale could probably pay the salary of a nurse for the duration of the lockdown.

On a normal day then yes, but over the last while the tide has gone out and those swimming naked have been seen.

If you haven’t been working in the last 2 months it’s because your job isn’t important to the survival of people on a basic level, it’s a service or product that people Can live without for periods of time.

Your making an economic argument, which is different.

Kermit.de.frog

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

PS in relation to pubs poster here, pubs are also what this country is famous for. Temple Bar anyone?

Maybe it's time for change.

lawrencesummers

silverharp wrote: »

dentists and construction workers are not essential?

Essential no, a lot of what dentist do is routine and cosmetic, some of their work is essential but not all of it, and construction is the same, aspects of it are essential to survival, but not all of it.

Is someone’s house gets delayed in building for 3 months nobody will die. If someone’s doesn’t get braces until the end of the year it’s not curtains.

So essential no.

boring accountant

lawrencesummers wrote: »

On a normal day then yes, but over the last while the tide has gone out and those swimming naked have been seen.

If you haven’t been working in the last 2 months it’s because your job isn’t important to the survival of people on a basic level, it’s a service or product that people Can live without for periods of time.

Your making an economic argument, which is different.

I’m making an argument that is grounded in real life. You are making some abstract pseudo-existentialist argument that is really just a poorly disguised troll.

setanta1984

setanta1984 wrote: »

Ok great. So we agree we are slower.

My simple question is, why is waiting to August to do what other countries are doing now (or since April in some cases) right for Ireland but not for every other country, in your opinion? (That question is for anyone who agrees with the plan taking until August)

I keep asking this question because the government have never explained, which is what is so disheartening.

Not surprisingly there was no answer to this

Kermit.de.frog

setanta1984 wrote: »

Not surprisingly there was no answer to this

I already answered it.

The timetable is indicative and flexible depending on the behaviour of the disease.

C__MC

Can the government not fast track counties with low cases to open up quicker?

road_high

C__MC wrote: »

Can the government not fast track counties with low cases to open up quicker?

They could but that would require a little bit of initiative and imaginative thinking. The past three months have proven they’re incapable of either. Not to mention common sense.

lawrencesummers

boring accountant wrote: »

I’m making an argument that is grounded in real life. You are making some abstract pseudo-existentialist argument that is really just a poorly disguised troll.

Real life as in reality? Because the reality at the moment is that we can see what is essential and what isn’t.

You can make an argument for May 2019 or May 2021 but in May 2020 there are a lot of people not working because their job is unnecessary in the current situation. That will change once we can lift restrictions, but it is the current reality.

castletownman

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Maybe it's time for change.

You should rename yourself Buzz Killington.

What harm is it that we are world-renowned for our pubs? It's much the same as France is known for its restaurants and Las Vegas for its casinos. Except there is something more "everyday" about our pub culture. For many its the only social scene in their community, and for even more its a job (and often a family business dating a few generations).

C__MC

road_high wrote: »

They could but that would require a little bit of initiative and imaginative thinking. The past three months have proven they’re incapable of either. Not to mention common sense.

I know it's becoming a bit of a farce
People are out and about anyway
Underage sport should be resumed

Ginger n Lemon

12 deaths 76 new cases.

What in the gods name are we waiting for to lift restrictions?? Some hardware/construction been opened for 4 days, 100 000 construction lads huddling eating lunches everyday, no1 is falling sick (even if they are sick given the 0.% chances you'd have to be mad to stay at home at 350 a week when can earn 800 a week working) mad queues at woodies etc

Seriously, Denmark had 215 new cases 1 day before they opened barbers on 21st of April. They had 12 deaths on that day too... we have over 100 free ICU beds and have had them for 2 + weeks now... just shafting IKEA is all we've done over d last 2 weeks in terms of pro activeness

Arghus

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I already answered it.

The timetable is indicative and flexible depending on the behaviour of the disease.

That's exactly what they've repeated again for the thousandth time in the briefing today.

But good luck getting that message through to them in here.

lawrencesummers

RobitTV wrote: »

I haven't posted on Boards for quite a while now. But today i felt i had to come on here and express how i feel about a minority of people who are bashing pubs for no good reason.

Some people go to the pub because it may the only form of social contact they get all week long. As i have got older many of my friends have moved away and i had to adapt to that happening by putting myself out there more and meeting new people and trying to spark conversations.

It's such a great way of forming friendships and it's also a way of making yourself feel better by having a conservation with someone. Some people are really isolated right now and you can just tell that depression is building daily for those people.

It's very sad what is happening right now. It's not all about going down the pub and getting smashed. People need social contact and that's a natural human instinct.

The lockdown phase's are a joke and we need to rescue the economy right now. We can't let this continue any further and have overwhelming unemployment while the number of cases are now plunging like a stone.

There are other ways to meet people, the pub isn’t the only way.

Join a club, take up a hobby, play a sport, volunteer somewhere.

Kermit.de.frog

castletownman wrote: »

What harm is it that we are world-renowned for our pubs?

Hey, if your happy the country's only selling point is facilitating Temple Bar for British lager louts and stags or the Guinness Store house as it's main attraction, fair enough.

Some of us have hopes of a higher standard for the country beyond "come here, get drunk".

Maybe this can be a catalyst for reinventing how we market the country.

setanta1984

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I already answered it.

The timetable is indicative and flexible depending on the behaviour of the disease.

No you didn't, that is not an answer to that direct question, as to why.

I won't keep badgering you on it anymore, I just think it's a bit sad nobody can even try to come up with an answer as to why Ireland's plan needs to be 3 months behind the rest of Europe.

Kivaro

C__MC wrote: »

Can the government not fast track counties with low cases to open up quicker?

Their collective heads would explode if they were to think "outside the box" to make this happen. They would see it as a capitulation and would therefore forego the obvious mental health and economic benefits to the people of Ireland.

lawrencesummers

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

12 deaths 76 new cases.

What in the gods name are we waiting for to lift restrictions?? Some hardware/construction been opened for 4 days, 100 000 construction lads huddling eating lunches everyday, no1 is falling sick (even if they are sick given the 0.% chances you'd have to be mad to stay at home at 350 a week when can earn 800 a week working) mad queues at woodies etc

Seriously, Denmark had 215 new cases 1 day before they opened barbers on 21st of April. They had 12 deaths on that day too... we have over 100 free ICU beds and have had them for 2 + weeks now... just shafting IKEA is all we've done over d last 2 weeks in terms of pro activeness

You’ve been banging the same drum now for a long time. Is it possible that other people just know more than you do.

Ginger n Lemon

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Maybe it's time for change.

Lets be known as the slowest nation on earth? Only Scots could rival us at that.

We dont do barbers here, we cut our own hair or let our partner do it. Ok, now i am off to dig some potatoes as that will be our main export for years to come. laters

Kermit.de.frog

lawrencesummers wrote: »

You’ve been banging the same drum now for a long time. Is it possible that other people just know more than you do.

Of course not

Experts...pfffft

road_high

C__MC wrote: »

I know it's becoming a bit of a farce
People are out and about anyway
Underage sport should be resumed

Becoming? It’s been a farce for a long time now.
Peak for me was today was HomeStores reopening but blocking off the risky and potentially deadly household items. We all know how lethal they might prove in the wrong Covid hands.

Ginger n Lemon

lawrencesummers wrote: »

You’ve been banging the same drum now for a long time. Is it possible that other people just know more than you do.

Is it possible Tony & Co know more than rest of developed European Nations?

When you answer that, you ll answer your question.

road_high

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Lets be known as the slowest nation on earth? Only Scots could rival us at that.

We dont do barbers here, we cut our own hair or let our partner do it. Ok, now i am off to dig some potatoes as that will be our main export for years to come. laters

You know, we don’t actually grow much potatoes here anymore!
Maybe we can adapt to eat grass? The real food can then be reserved for the essential workers only