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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**
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Ivan Yates is the biggest sh!t stirrer on this Island.
Wouldn't value anything coming out of his mouth.
Every TD is currently lobbying at the moment for their causes and have now automagically become health experts.
The fact that we are having these discussions on reducing the restrictions, is a direct result of them being in place in the first hand, I dread to think of the alternative.
We need to be slow in resuming what we know as normal, to give our resources the ability to react to any increase of infection.
Yes, some of us are bored, some of us want to be beamed up from our family, etc, etc, but we are still here.
My father is currently in the Limerick Regional for just over 7 weeks now, the last time I saw him was pushing him on the trolley up onto the ambulance and I didn't think he would make it over.
Thankfully he is a lot better now, and we are expecting home soon.
We should not forget that this is a pandemic and it will always be difficult to balance everyone's viewpoint in such a challenging time.
Have a great weekend all.
I’m glad your father is recovering, that’s good .
Believe me it’s not boredom that has businesses and the public upset at these restrictions. While they were needed initially until we got a handle on things they are no longer fit for purpose. We have done well in containing and reducing the spread of Covid.
We need more people like Ivan Yates and independent radio stations ! Otherwise hard questions would never be asked and everyone would continue bowing and scraping to government ministers and health officials. Economists should be part of NPHET !
At this stage **** needs to be stirred .0 -
Deleted User wrote: »I went further than 5km to meet a good friend in her garden for coffee. We sat apart and chatted for about 3 hours! It was fabulous. I went swimming later, beach 4km from my house, I don’t remember when I last saw the beach so busy ......No Gardai anywhere !
Great to see people out in the fresh air enjoying themselves.
Tomorrow I’m heading to the mountains for another hike. We are being treated like fools , France back in action as is most of Europe !
Today was the first day I broke the restrictions, I got up at 7 and drove 10km to the woods. It’s the first day that I’ve walked in safety since the lockdown, the road I live on is lethal. It was wonderful.0 -
Just back from a walk around the block and a good few houses with garden lights on with people sitting down and playing music in the back garden and having a chat.
This is only the start. Wait till the weekend and the bubble will burst.0 -
This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Dr Tony Holohan, chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Prof Colm Bergin, infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin.
Paul Bolger, director of Department of Health resources division.
Dr Eibhlin Connolly, deputy chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Tracey Conroy, assistant secretary in the acute hospitals division of the Department of Health.
Dr John Cuddihy, interim director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).
Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory in UCD.
Colm Desmond, assistant secretary for corporate legislation, mental health, drugs policy and food safety division in the Department of Health.
Dr Lorraine Doherty, national clinical director for health protection in the HPSC.
Dr Mary Favier, president of the Irish College of General Practitioners.
Dr Ronan Glynn, deputy chief medical officer in the Department of Health.
Fergal Goodman, assistant secretary in the primary care division in the Department of Health.
Dr Colm Henry, HSE chief clinical officer.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director of public health.
Marita Kinsella, director of the national patient safety office in the Department of Health.
David Leach, HSE deputy national director of communications.
Dr Kathleen Mac Lellan, assistant secretary in Department of Health social care division.
Dr Jeanette McCallion, Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) medical assessor.
Tom McGuinness, assistant national director at HSE office of emergency planning.
Dr Siobhán Ní Bhrian, HSE lead for integrated care.
Prof Philip Nolan, chair of Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group and president of Maynooth University.
Kate O’Flaherty, head of health and wellbeing at Department of Health.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, special adviser to NPHET at Department of Health.
Dr Siobhán O’Sullivan, chief bioethics officer at Department of Health.
Dr Michael Power, national clinical lead of HSE critical care programme and consultant in intensive care medicine at Beaumont Hospital.
Phelim Quinn, chief executive of Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa).
Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive and director of health technology assessment at Hiqa.
Dr Alan Smith, Department of Health deputy chief medical officer.
Dr Breda Smyth, HSE director of health and public health medicine.
David Walsh, HSE national director of community operations.
Deirdre Watters, head of communications at Department of Health.
Liam Woods, HSE national director of acute operations.
Lorraine Doherty, HPSC clinical director for health protection.0 -
^ And your point is? This is a discussion forum. We are allowed to have thoughts and opinions, particularly on matters that concern our quality of life, welfare and futures.0
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Hopefully the government does the right thing and skips straight to phase 3 on the 8th June and we can finally start to move out of this farcical situation we're in at the moment0
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amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET."
Actual insights into a deadly virus are a few and far between on this thread I have found. Although there are many opinions on the restrictions, plus other stuff completely non related.0 -
amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Dr Tony Holohan, chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Prof Colm Bergin, infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin.
Paul Bolger, director of Department of Health resources division.
Dr Eibhlin Connolly, deputy chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Tracey Conroy, assistant secretary in the acute hospitals division of the Department of Health.
Dr John Cuddihy, interim director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).
Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory in UCD.
Colm Desmond, assistant secretary for corporate legislation, mental health, drugs policy and food safety division in the Department of Health.
Dr Lorraine Doherty, national clinical director for health protection in the HPSC.
Dr Mary Favier, president of the Irish College of General Practitioners.
Dr Ronan Glynn, deputy chief medical officer in the Department of Health.
Fergal Goodman, assistant secretary in the primary care division in the Department of Health.
Dr Colm Henry, HSE chief clinical officer.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director of public health.
Marita Kinsella, director of the national patient safety office in the Department of Health.
David Leach, HSE deputy national director of communications.
Dr Kathleen Mac Lellan, assistant secretary in Department of Health social care division.
Dr Jeanette McCallion, Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) medical assessor.
Tom McGuinness, assistant national director at HSE office of emergency planning.
Dr Siobhán Ní Bhrian, HSE lead for integrated care.
Prof Philip Nolan, chair of Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group and president of Maynooth University.
Kate O’Flaherty, head of health and wellbeing at Department of Health.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, special adviser to NPHET at Department of Health.
Dr Siobhán O’Sullivan, chief bioethics officer at Department of Health.
Dr Michael Power, national clinical lead of HSE critical care programme and consultant in intensive care medicine at Beaumont Hospital.
Phelim Quinn, chief executive of Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa).
Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive and director of health technology assessment at Hiqa.
Dr Alan Smith, Department of Health deputy chief medical officer.
Dr Breda Smyth, HSE director of health and public health medicine.
David Walsh, HSE national director of community operations.
Deirdre Watters, head of communications at Department of Health.
Liam Woods, HSE national director of acute operations.
Lorraine Doherty, HPSC clinical director for health protection.
They all have one thing in common. Not a single person on that list was elected to lead or be part of government. You know, those people that are actually supposed to be running the country.
Where are the minutes from every single meeting they've had?
Why did they stop publishing minutes?
How do we know the rationale behind life changing decisions this group have made?
What will be the consequences for any of them when the economy is in the toilet for a decade?
Why are our elected representatives following them blindly?
Who was responsible for the nursing home fiasco?
These are all questions that we will never have answers for but we absolutely should."Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"
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amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Dr Tony Holohan, chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Prof Colm Bergin, infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin.
Paul Bolger, director of Department of Health resources division.
Dr Eibhlin Connolly, deputy chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Tracey Conroy, assistant secretary in the acute hospitals division of the Department of Health.
Dr John Cuddihy, interim director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).
Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory in UCD.
Colm Desmond, assistant secretary for corporate legislation, mental health, drugs policy and food safety division in the Department of Health.
Dr Lorraine Doherty, national clinical director for health protection in the HPSC.
Dr Mary Favier, president of the Irish College of General Practitioners.
Dr Ronan Glynn, deputy chief medical officer in the Department of Health.
Fergal Goodman, assistant secretary in the primary care division in the Department of Health.
Dr Colm Henry, HSE chief clinical officer.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director of public health.
Marita Kinsella, director of the national patient safety office in the Department of Health.
David Leach, HSE deputy national director of communications.
Dr Kathleen Mac Lellan, assistant secretary in Department of Health social care division.
Dr Jeanette McCallion, Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) medical assessor.
Tom McGuinness, assistant national director at HSE office of emergency planning.
Dr Siobhán Ní Bhrian, HSE lead for integrated care.
Prof Philip Nolan, chair of Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group and president of Maynooth University.
Kate O’Flaherty, head of health and wellbeing at Department of Health.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, special adviser to NPHET at Department of Health.
Dr Siobhán O’Sullivan, chief bioethics officer at Department of Health.
Dr Michael Power, national clinical lead of HSE critical care programme and consultant in intensive care medicine at Beaumont Hospital.
Phelim Quinn, chief executive of Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa).
Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive and director of health technology assessment at Hiqa.
Dr Alan Smith, Department of Health deputy chief medical officer.
Dr Breda Smyth, HSE director of health and public health medicine.
David Walsh, HSE national director of community operations.
Deirdre Watters, head of communications at Department of Health.
Liam Woods, HSE national director of acute operations.
Lorraine Doherty, HPSC clinical director for health protection.
Where would the world be if we never even bothered to question those in authority?
On a less philsophical question - what do the group of people above seem to know that every other leadership group in Europe don't?0 -
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amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Dr Tony Holohan, chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Prof Colm Bergin, infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin.
Paul Bolger, director of Department of Health resources division.
Dr Eibhlin Connolly, deputy chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Tracey Conroy, assistant secretary in the acute hospitals division of the Department of Health.
Dr John Cuddihy, interim director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).
Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory in UCD.
Colm Desmond, assistant secretary for corporate legislation, mental health, drugs policy and food safety division in the Department of Health.
Dr Lorraine Doherty, national clinical director for health protection in the HPSC.
Dr Mary Favier, president of the Irish College of General Practitioners.
Dr Ronan Glynn, deputy chief medical officer in the Department of Health.
Fergal Goodman, assistant secretary in the primary care division in the Department of Health.
Dr Colm Henry, HSE chief clinical officer.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director of public health.
Marita Kinsella, director of the national patient safety office in the Department of Health.
David Leach, HSE deputy national director of communications.
Dr Kathleen Mac Lellan, assistant secretary in Department of Health social care division.
Dr Jeanette McCallion, Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) medical assessor.
Tom McGuinness, assistant national director at HSE office of emergency planning.
Dr Siobhán Ní Bhrian, HSE lead for integrated care.
Prof Philip Nolan, chair of Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group and president of Maynooth University.
Kate O’Flaherty, head of health and wellbeing at Department of Health.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, special adviser to NPHET at Department of Health.
Dr Siobhán O’Sullivan, chief bioethics officer at Department of Health.
Dr Michael Power, national clinical lead of HSE critical care programme and consultant in intensive care medicine at Beaumont Hospital.
Phelim Quinn, chief executive of Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa).
Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive and director of health technology assessment at Hiqa.
Dr Alan Smith, Department of Health deputy chief medical officer.
Dr Breda Smyth, HSE director of health and public health medicine.
David Walsh, HSE national director of community operations.
Deirdre Watters, head of communications at Department of Health.
Liam Woods, HSE national director of acute operations.
Lorraine Doherty, HPSC clinical director for health protection.
Cervical Check scandal says hello.
How many times have scandals come out over the years involving politicians, the Garda, HSE etc.
They’d really love it if everybody was like you and didn’t question a thing.0 -
They all have one thing in common. Not a single person on that list was elected to lead or be part of government. You know, those people that are actually supposed to be running the country.
Where are the minutes from every single meeting they've had?
Why did they stop publishing minutes?
How do we know the rationale behind life changing decisions this group have made?
What will be the consequences for any of them when the economy is in the toilet for a decade?
Why are our elected representatives following them blindly?
Who was responsible for the nursing home fiasco?
These are all questions that we will never have answers for but we absolutely should.
Do you actually think we should elect health officials? We've people in our country who elect Healy Rae's, Lowry etc and you want those same people to elect health officials?
As for nursing homes, they'd be villified if they said it publicly but it's clear to me that we had a lack of PPE equipment, we had a lack of staff and those finite resources we had were diverted to hospitals as there's a better chance of survival for those patients. We didn't have enough resources to cater for everyone so hard decisions had to be made.0 -
Deleted User wrote: »If opticians are open why aren’t hairdressers ?
I was going to answer this but thought nah can't be bothered.0 -
amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Dr Tony Holohan, chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Prof Colm Bergin, infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin.
Paul Bolger, director of Department of Health resources division.
Dr Eibhlin Connolly, deputy chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Tracey Conroy, assistant secretary in the acute hospitals division of the Department of Health.
Dr John Cuddihy, interim director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).
Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory in UCD.
Colm Desmond, assistant secretary for corporate legislation, mental health, drugs policy and food safety division in the Department of Health.
Dr Lorraine Doherty, national clinical director for health protection in the HPSC.
Dr Mary Favier, president of the Irish College of General Practitioners.
Dr Ronan Glynn, deputy chief medical officer in the Department of Health.
Fergal Goodman, assistant secretary in the primary care division in the Department of Health.
Dr Colm Henry, HSE chief clinical officer.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director of public health.
Marita Kinsella, director of the national patient safety office in the Department of Health.
David Leach, HSE deputy national director of communications.
Dr Kathleen Mac Lellan, assistant secretary in Department of Health social care division.
Dr Jeanette McCallion, Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) medical assessor.
Tom McGuinness, assistant national director at HSE office of emergency planning.
Dr Siobhán Ní Bhrian, HSE lead for integrated care.
Prof Philip Nolan, chair of Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group and president of Maynooth University.
Kate O’Flaherty, head of health and wellbeing at Department of Health.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, special adviser to NPHET at Department of Health.
Dr Siobhán O’Sullivan, chief bioethics officer at Department of Health.
Dr Michael Power, national clinical lead of HSE critical care programme and consultant in intensive care medicine at Beaumont Hospital.
Phelim Quinn, chief executive of Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa).
Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive and director of health technology assessment at Hiqa.
Dr Alan Smith, Department of Health deputy chief medical officer.
Dr Breda Smyth, HSE director of health and public health medicine.
David Walsh, HSE national director of community operations.
Deirdre Watters, head of communications at Department of Health.
Liam Woods, HSE national director of acute operations.
Lorraine Doherty, HPSC clinical director for health protection.
Yeah OK Karen ....0 -
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I was going to answer this but thought nah can't be bothered.
I’ll say it again for people in the back. Services that were deemed to be non essential on March 15th are now badly needed and will be in even higher demand by the 20th of July.
Yes, a lot of services provided by hairdressers are for cosmetic purposes but they also fit and style wigs for cancer patients and those suffering with alopecia and there is also the issue of hair extensions.
Bonded extensions are extremely common & popular in Ireland, they’re supposed to be left in for 5 months max.
Most women don’t even get the 5 months out of them.
Anyone who was due to have theirs out in March will now have to wait till July, an extra 4 months.
Most people get their hair done in December for Xmas which means a lot of women need theirs out now.
Leaving them in too long can cause bald patches, matting, sores & scabs on the head and hair loss.
It is a professional service that can only usually be done by hair dressers.
And again, maybe not an urgent issue right now but it will be extremely urgent by the end of July.
My own hairdresser is fully booked for 12 weeks from the 20th of July onwards and is already operating a waiting list.
This shows and proves that if you take away the service, the demand doesn’t go anywhere, it just grows and grows meaning when hairdressers do reopen they’ll be as busy as they can legally get away with.
Opening hairdressers now would ease the pressure a bit in that regard, they can start working their way through the demand now rather than keeping them shut for another 8 weeks.
Most in the industry have introduced new procedures and policies for social distancing by now, they’re ready to go and should be given a chance to see if they can operate under the new guidelines rather than unnecessarily keeping them on the covid payment for another two months. It makes no sense at all.0 -
I’ll say it again for people in the back. Services that were deemed to be non essential on March 15th are now badly needed and will be in even higher demand by the 20th of July.
Yes, a lot of services provided by hairdressers are for cosmetic purposes but they also fit and style wigs for cancer patients and those suffering with alopecia and there is also the issue of hair extensions.
Bonded extensions are extremely common & popular in Ireland, they’re supposed to be left in for 5 months max.
Most women don’t even get the 5 months out of them.
Anyone who was due to have theirs out in March will now have to wait till July, an extra 4 months.
Most people get their hair done in December for Xmas which means a lot of women need theirs out now.
Leaving them in too long can cause bald patches, matting, sores & scabs on the head and hair loss.
It is a professional service that can only usually be done by hair dressers.
And again, maybe not an urgent issue right now but it will be extremely urgent by the end of July.
My own hairdresser is fully booked for 12 weeks from the 20th of July onwards and is already operating a waiting list.
This shows and proves that if you take away the service, the demand doesn’t go anywhere, it just grows and grows meaning when hairdressers do reopen they’ll be as busy as they can legally get away with.
Opening hairdressers now would ease the pressure a bit in that regard, they can start working their way through the demand now rather than keeping them shut for another 8 weeks.
Most in the industry have introduced new procedures and policies for social distancing by now, they’re ready to go and should be given a chance to see if they can operate under the new guidelines rather than unnecessarily keeping them on the covid payment for another two months. It makes no sense at all.
You're definitely not a hair dresser so?0 -
Jinglejangle69 wrote: »You're definitely not a hair dresser so?
No, I already posted the industry I work in earlier in the thread.
I’m just a blonde whose roots are down to her ears and whose bonded extensions are hanging on by a thread :pac:
I still think hairdressers should be allowed reopen in the next phase, though.0 -
I think hairdressers should in June, but with mandatory masks for both customer and stylist . However, as we continue to give mixed signals on masks, it will be in July.0
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I think hairdressers should in June, but with mandatory masks for both customer and stylist . However, as we continue to give mixed signals on masks, it will be in July.
I think this would be a fair compromise and would have no problem wearing a mask for this, or any other beauty appointments where you can’t really socially distance either.0 -
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stephenjmcd wrote: »HSE Operations report just released and it's all good news.
As of 18:30 there were 45 confirmed covid cases in ICU, down from 48 yesterday and no ICU deaths recorded between 10am yesteday and 10am today. 30 on ventilators down from 32.
As of 8pm there were 193 confirmed cases in acute hospitals down from 233, a drop of 40 in 24hrs.
8 cases diagnosed in hosptial settings in the last 24hrs.
Very positive numbers
Hopefully they can keep declining
Tony was a little bit worried on Wednesday
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I'm pro lockdown, or at least following the stated rules as they are, but ya, I'd agree, I'd move hairdressers to phase 3 myself at the least.
On masks though, I can understand it for.women with longer hair but not really sure how as a male it'll work since cutting around the ears, or having to use a razer blade in that area.0 -
I think hairdressers should in June, but with mandatory masks for both customer and stylist . However, as we continue to give mixed signals on masks, it will be in July.
Exactly what happens in other countries
It really is mad to think other countries had hairdressers amongst first to open and they might be open three months before ours do on July 20th0 -
amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Thanks for posting the full list of "experts". If, as you infer, these people had better insight into a deadly virus they would have stopped travel to/from virus-ravaged N. Italy, stopped 2,500 Italians coming to Dublin for a weekend partying, clubbing and booze-up for a non-existent rugby match and then also stopped thousands of Irish going to Cheltenham to bring even more virus back here. Not to mention the nursing home fiasco.
They had one vital ingredient missing - common sense. They made all the wrong decisions then so what makes you believe they are not doing the same all over again?0 -
In tomorrow mornings Irish times. Safe to say it didn't last too long so, although it's not mandatory they've quite clearly been told to get rid of it already. CMO being over ruled on the travel stance.
"The two-week quarantine period for people arriving into the State from abroad will be lifted for those coming from countries where the coronavirus has been controlled, under plans being considered by the Government."0 -
46 new cases and there's still a question as to whether we'll move to phase 2?
Jesus wept0 -
It's like kids waiting for Christmas this is. Is not dying not a good enough reason to WAIT? Enjoy the rest of 2020. There will be more sunny days. There will be more bank holidays. I shudder to think how the west would do in a war these days.
Not great I'd wager, if their young spend a year behind the couch for Covid.
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amadangomor wrote: »This thread is an eye opener. Truest words spoken were the ones about opinions and arseholes.
We really are priviligaged to have the opinions of so may wise people here who have so much more of an insight into a deadly virus than the list of members of NPHET.
Dr Tony Holohan, chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Prof Colm Bergin, infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin.
Paul Bolger, director of Department of Health resources division.
Dr Eibhlin Connolly, deputy chief medical officer at the Department of Health.
Tracey Conroy, assistant secretary in the acute hospitals division of the Department of Health.
Dr John Cuddihy, interim director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC).
Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory in UCD.
Colm Desmond, assistant secretary for corporate legislation, mental health, drugs policy and food safety division in the Department of Health.
Dr Lorraine Doherty, national clinical director for health protection in the HPSC.
Dr Mary Favier, president of the Irish College of General Practitioners.
Dr Ronan Glynn, deputy chief medical officer in the Department of Health.
Fergal Goodman, assistant secretary in the primary care division in the Department of Health.
Dr Colm Henry, HSE chief clinical officer.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, HSE assistant national director of public health.
Marita Kinsella, director of the national patient safety office in the Department of Health.
David Leach, HSE deputy national director of communications.
Dr Kathleen Mac Lellan, assistant secretary in Department of Health social care division.
Dr Jeanette McCallion, Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) medical assessor.
Tom McGuinness, assistant national director at HSE office of emergency planning.
Dr Siobhán Ní Bhrian, HSE lead for integrated care.
Prof Philip Nolan, chair of Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group and president of Maynooth University.
Kate O’Flaherty, head of health and wellbeing at Department of Health.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, special adviser to NPHET at Department of Health.
Dr Siobhán O’Sullivan, chief bioethics officer at Department of Health.
Dr Michael Power, national clinical lead of HSE critical care programme and consultant in intensive care medicine at Beaumont Hospital.
Phelim Quinn, chief executive of Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa).
Dr Máirín Ryan, deputy chief executive and director of health technology assessment at Hiqa.
Dr Alan Smith, Department of Health deputy chief medical officer.
Dr Breda Smyth, HSE director of health and public health medicine.
David Walsh, HSE national director of community operations.
Deirdre Watters, head of communications at Department of Health.
Liam Woods, HSE national director of acute operations.
Lorraine Doherty, HPSC clinical director for health protection.
Your post lives up to your username. You are completely misrepresenting (or just misunderstanding) the message people are sending on here. There’s nobody claiming to be experts here or calling into question the medical credentials of the people on that list. Not one person is saying “I know more than that lot”. What they ARE saying is this: “given that our European neighbours have access to similarly wise medical experts, and given that we have suppressed the virus to a good extent, why have our European neighbours responded by lifting the imposed restrictions and we have not”? You see nobody is claiming to have factual knowledge, they are merely making a valid comparison with similar countries to ourselves and coming to the very logical conclusion that Ireland’s recovery is being severely impeded for no discernible reason. Nuance is in short supply for you.0 -
I wonder how many likes that post will get, it won’t be from the lockdown merchants anyway
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Hector Savage wrote: »Yeah OK Karen ....
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