Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

DebDynamite

Stheno wrote: »

Hotels etc are shut until the end of July where would they stay?

Airbnb’s, caravan parks, their own holiday homes here

Rodin

Stheno wrote: »

Apparently the UK will not require Irish people to quarantine if they travel to the UK

Irish people or those travelling from the Republic?

SEPT 23 1989

Loozer wrote: »

Family work in them supplying to sites

Factories not opening afaik on 18th

they are

Rodin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But there is 14 day mandatory quarantine in Ireland. The same quarantine protocol as exists in almost every other EU country. It just hasn’t been enforced so far, but Leo said on Friday on Newstalk that he would change that.

The difference between Ireland and most EU countries is not in the quarantine rules (acknowledging, for now, that lack of enforcement), but the fact that entry is not restricted to only citizens, residents and essential workers.

But the NI border issue is harder to resolve

Not mandatory at all.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0507/1137027-government-urged-to-progress-travel-info-regulations/

Tenger

DebDynamite wrote: »

I’d be very anti-lockdown, open-the-country-up minded, but I really am totally against there being no restrictions on people entering the country from overseas. Now because of our lax restrictions, Ireland is being recommended to the UK people as a place to travel to!
.....................

Not because of our “lax restrictions” but because we share a Common Travel Area with the UK.
Neither nation can restrict the entry of citizens of the other.

WhiteMemento9

The_Brood wrote: »

The vast majority of Europe is relaxing restrictions a lot faster and sooner than Ireland. So either the virus cases in Ireland a lot worse than elsewhere in Europe - and if so someone needs to be held accountable - or if this is an overly strict measure someone else must be held accountable for the economic disaster that stems from it.

Surely for the sake of a few weeks getting to watch what unfolds in those countries is invaluable in terms of data and looking at what goes right and wrong when putting our own strategy together. Given our low ICU capacity, using the experience gained from watching other countries is invaluable and I think the smart thing to be doing right now.

Loozer

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they are

Link?

DebDynamite

Tenger wrote: »

Not because of our “lax restrictions” but because we share a Common Travel Area with the UK.
Neither nation can restrict the entry of citizens of the other.

By mandatory quarantine we will not be restricting entry to the country, they will just be required to quarantine once they enter the country. Australia and New Zealand quarantined their own citizens!

Loozer

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

they are

I can't see any mention of factories opening on 18th
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/

Rodin

Rodin wrote: »

Not mandatory at all.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0507/1137027-government-urged-to-progress-travel-info-regulations/

I know. That’s what I said. It can’t be enforced. The requirement is there....but there are no powers to retain people who don’t give the info. But It is the intent that it be fixed.

Rodin

Rodin wrote: »

Irish people or those travelling from the Republic?

People travelling from the republic. At London airports, arrivals from Ireland go through the domestic channel and so bypass border control and straight into the train.

Speakerboxx

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Won`t be happening. Simple as that.

What you mean it wont be happening?

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

Apparently the UK will not require Irish people to quarantine if they travel to the UK

That’s not Ireland’s problem. People would still have to quarantine on the way back

Speakerboxx

rob316 wrote: »

Your a miserable person every post from you is about extending restrictions.

Yeah. Exactly. He isnt happy until there are extensions

Rodin

DebDynamite wrote: »

By mandatory quarantine we will not be restricting entry to the country, they will just be required to quarantine once they enter the country. Australia and New Zealand quarantined their own citizens!

And they were right too

prunudo

Loozer wrote: »

I can't see any mention of factories opening on 18th
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/

In the same way there are business operating at present to serve essential services there will be businesses that will be needed to serve those that open on 18th. Otherwise whats the point in opening if you can't get materials or supplies.

Ginger n Lemon

prunudo wrote: »

In the same way there are business operating at present to serve essential services there will be businesses that will be needed to serve those that open on 18th. Otherwise whats the point in opening if you can't get materials or supplies.

You would think that government officials who get 150,000, 200,000 + eurs per year would have enough brain power to make that clearly stated and known in their magic plan.

Loozer

Loozer wrote: »

I can't see any mention of factories opening on 18th
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/

Factories are not specifically mentioned anywhere. They would presumably fall under the 1st phase on May 18

“Remote working
Remote working is to continue for all workers or businesses that can currently do so.”

Given that factory workers cannot, by definition, work remotely, then they would go back according to the COVID roadmap

prunudo

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You would think that government officials who get 150,000, 200,000 + eurs per year would have enough brain power to make that clearly stated and known in their magic plan.

You're making the mistake of believing they have an actual thought out plan!

the kelt

Doctor acknowledges issues with contact tracing

“I don’t understand why we are having difficulties with contact tracing,” she said.

“We know that there are retired colleagues who have offered their services to be part of contact tracing because they can’t do the face-to-face consultations,” she said.

“And yet they have told me they still have not been contacted.”



https://www.newstalk.com/news/doctor-contact-tracing-lockdown-1012883

Ginger n Lemon

the kelt wrote: »

Doctor acknowledges issues with contact tracing

“I don’t understand why we are having difficulties with contact tracing,” she said.

“We know that there are retired colleagues who have offered their services to be part of contact tracing because they can’t do the face-to-face consultations,” she said.

“And yet they have told me they still have not been contacted.”



https://www.newstalk.com/news/doctor-contact-tracing-lockdown-1012883

Govt has no money or are they offering to work for free? If latter then why the hell havent they been contacted

“We know that there are retired colleagues who have offered their services to be part of contact tracing because they can’t do the face-to-face consultations,” she said.

“And yet they have told me they still have not been contacted.”

Loozer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Factories are not specifically mentioned anywhere. They would presumably fall under the 1st phase on May 18

“Remote working
Remote working is to continue for all workers or businesses that can currently do so.”

Given that factory workers cannot, by definition, work remotely, then they would go back according to the COVID roadmap

They're in the second phase not the first

Ginger n Lemon

Loozer wrote: »

They're in the second phase not the first

Oh jesus, are you telling me we are letting builders go to work 18th of May but they cant order new supplies till 8th of June?

This would be so Ireland...

stephenjmcd

No idea what to make of this myself but thought I'd put it up here
https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/nobel-scientist-predicts-virus-will-burn-out-in-next-two-weeks-39194015.html

lord quackinton

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Oh jesus, are you telling me we are letting builders go to work 18th of May but they cant order new supplies till 8th of June?

This would be so Ireland...

most suppliers are open in the morning, you ring in what you need and they will have it ready for you to collect. i am getting a new boiler thursday morning.
i dont think is illegal as roofing and plumbing and electrical are considered essential services and the tradesmen need to get supplies.

soon though stocks will be depleted as alot of stuff comes in via the UK. will take time to get stocks up to required levels.

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1259547023470219264?s=19

Ginger n Lemon

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1259547023470219264?s=19

Didnt see that coming.

No, I did. We ll be in Guinness world records for slowest lockdown lifting.

Also, I linked earlier. Worrying times. Fintan would be keen to see

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/reality-bites-watchdog-warns-on-tax-hikes-and-pension-age-as-recession-kicks-in-39194085.html

Loozer

lord quackinton wrote: »

most suppliers are open in the morning, you ring in what you need and they will have it ready for you to collect. i am getting a new boiler thursday morning.
i dont think is illegal as roofing and plumbing and electrical are considered essential services and the tradesmen need to get supplies.

soon though stocks will be depleted as alot of stuff comes in via the UK. will take time to get stocks up to required levels.

Suppliers yes manufacturers no

They depend on both

JoeA3

Loozer wrote: »

Suppliers yes manufacturers no

They depend on both

I’m building a house. I’ve various things on order, such as a kitchen and a stairs. The suppliers (and manufacturers) have told me they’re fully back on the 18th.

Mike3287

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No idea what to make of this myself but thought I'd put it up here
https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/nobel-scientist-predicts-virus-will-burn-out-in-next-two-weeks-39194015.html

It was never exponential

Thats very clear