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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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    #992
    titan18
    Registered Users Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Ginger n Lemon wrote:
    No, I did. We ll be in Guinness world records for slowest lockdown lifting.


    We'd actually be opening restaurants before them


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    #993
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,031 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Didnt see that coming.

    No, I did. We ll be in Guinness world records for slowest lockdown lifting.

    Also, I linked earlier. Worrying times. Fintan would be keen to see

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/reality-bites-watchdog-warns-on-tax-hikes-and-pension-age-as-recession-kicks-in-39194085.html

    Hopefully they will aim to copy the UK, or any other Europen country now. Its so frustrating seeing this government **** away thousands of jobs.


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    #994
    Loozer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Loozer


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    I’m building a house. I’ve various things on order, such as a kitchen and a stairs. The suppliers (and manufacturers) have told me they’re fully back on the 18th.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/

    Manufacturers not allowed til 8th june


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    #995
    JoeA3
    Registered Users Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Loozer wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/

    Manufacturers not allowed til 8th june

    It’s not at all clear cut in that link and from what I can gather, suppliers and manufacturers are taking their own more optimistic interpretation of it.


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    #996
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users Posts: 496 ✭✭The HorsesMouth


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1259547023470219264?s=19

    As one twitter user said are you going to have a scenario where children within a few kilometres of each other near the border are going to be back at school in June while the others might not even be back in September if Irish independent sources are to be believed?!


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    #997
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    German finance minister Scholz said: “Of course the situation is difficult. I don't want to convince any business owner that was closed for weeks and therefore could not make any sales that he would have no problem. He has a problem. I can only guarantee that we will do everything we can to ensure that as many companies as possible get through the crisis, that they are not out of breath and that jobs are preserved. I fight for every job.”

    He says businesses closed for weeks creates a problem for the owners.

    Now imagine being closed for 5 months.


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    #998
    blindside88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Does anyone know of monumental works will be back open from the 18th, I’m looking to get a headstone and curbing done on a grave. I would assume they are as they are outside work. Any insight would be much appreciated.


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    #999
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Am I losing my marbles or are posts being deleted here?


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    #1000
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,404 ✭✭✭prunudo


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Am I losing my marbles or are posts being deleted here?

    Think there are double or delayed posts appearing.


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    #1001
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    prunudo wrote: »
    Think there are double or delayed posts appearing.

    But how are post's being deleted?


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    #1002
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    German finance minister Scholz said: “Of course the situation is difficult. I don't want to convince any business owner that was closed for weeks and therefore could not make any sales that he would have no problem. He has a problem. I can only guarantee that we will do everything we can to ensure that as many companies as possible get through the crisis, that they are not out of breath and that jobs are preserved. I fight for every job.”

    He says businesses closed for weeks creates a problem for the owners.

    Now imagine being closed for 5 months.

    It's almost as if the Germans know how to run a country. I'd advise everyone who's able to to make a trip to Germany when this is all over to see how a modern country actually functions.


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    #1003
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    It's almost as if the Germans know how to run a country. I'd advise everyone who's able to to make a trip to Germany when this is all over to see how a modern country actually functions.

    Take a trip anywhere in June outside of Ireland and one will get to see a modern functioning country


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    #1004
    blackcard
    Registered Users Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Oh jesus, are you telling me we are letting builders go to work 18th of May but they cant order new supplies till 8th of June?

    This would be so Ireland...

    No. I have spoken to a number of suppliers, all starting back on the 18th


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    #1005
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Am I right in assuming the U.K. can drive to wherever they want to exercise and get outdoors as long as they stay in their family group?
    Are they also reopening in July what we are in August?
    Seems schools will partially reopen in June, and people are told to return to work who cannot work from home.
    If our nearest neighbour is doing this, who incidentally had many more cases and deaths than us, why are we being left behind?


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    #1006
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Loozer wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad5dd0-easing-the-covid-19-restrictions-on-may-18-phase-1/

    Manufacturers not allowed til 8th june

    Where exactly does it say that? There are plenty of manufacturers still open now

    I've read what you linked and dont see manufacturers explicitly called out.

    Where are all the building sites that were opened early like social housing projects getting supplies from?


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    #1007
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    But how are post's being deleted?
    Posters can delete their own posts or mods can delete them if they are not in line with forum or site rules

    Either way, it's not for discussion here. PM me if you have any questions - do not respond to this post


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    #1008
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Am I right in assuming the U.K. can drive to wherever they want to exercise and get outdoors as long as they stay in their family group?
    Are they also reopening in July what we are in August?
    Seems schools will partially reopen in June, and people are told to return to work who cannot work from home.
    If our nearest neighbour is doing this, who incidentally had many more cases and deaths than us, why are we being left behind?
    It is very tentative and they will be very closely monitoring the numbers going forward. If the RO rises again they will go back. A lot of construction and manufacturing has never stopped. The schools will be just yr1 and 6 if the schools can safely open and again this will be monitored very closely. The only change really is that you can exercise as much and anywhere you want. Only with members of your own family. Social distancing must be maintained and heavy fines will be given to those flouting this. It should be ok to exercise as much as you want as long as you distance. I cant see what difference that would make. Fresh air and sunshine are good for people.


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    #1009
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,508 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    No idea what to make of this myself but thought I'd put it up here
    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/nobel-scientist-predicts-virus-will-burn-out-in-next-two-weeks-39194015.html

    Behind the pay wall.

    If anyone has a way to read this article I'd appreciate it.


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    #1010
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We have the longest reopening plan in the world. And based on Tony’s words and the speculation, we might not even start phase 1 on time.

    They’ll completely lose public support if they try to extend again.


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    #1011
    uli84
    Registered Users Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭uli84


    Oh in the UK they don’t think opening schools for few weeks doesn’t make sense, how comes? ;)


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    #1012
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Am I right in assuming the U.K. can drive to wherever they want to exercise and get outdoors as long as they stay in their family group?
    Are they also reopening in July what we are in August?
    Seems schools will partially reopen in June, and people are told to return to work who cannot work from home.
    If our nearest neighbour is doing this, who incidentally had many more cases and deaths than us, why are we being left behind?

    Im really struggling accepting news of other countries swift return to normality.

    And I know my mental health is beginning to suffer when I'm starting to think we would be better with John Waters in charge of this crisis


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    #1013
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Arghus wrote: »
    Behind the pay wall.

    If anyone has a way to read this article I'd appreciate it.
    Only 1 para plus a link allowed under site copyright guidelines


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    #1014
    oceanman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭oceanman


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Am I right in assuming the U.K. can drive to wherever they want to exercise and get outdoors as long as they stay in their family group?
    Are they also reopening in July what we are in August?
    Seems schools will partially reopen in June, and people are told to return to work who cannot work from home.
    If our nearest neighbour is doing this, who incidentally had many more cases and deaths than us, why are we being left behind?
    because we are waiting to see how it pans out for them.....which is the smart to do.


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    #1015
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users Posts: 18,135 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    It'll get extensions if the death toll rises again or there is another significant increase in hospital admission with Covid19 cases.


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    #1016
    kaymin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭kaymin


    Arghus wrote: »
    Behind the pay wall.

    If anyone has a way to read this article I'd appreciate it.

    https://unherd.com/thepost/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-the-covid-19-epidemic-was-never-exponential/

    Basically Sweden and Germany got it right with a light touch lockdown and almost every other country got it wrong given there's no immunity built up and they've ruined their economies. Also the virus burns itself out after a short exponential growth period regardless of shutdown measures.


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    #1017
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    oceanman wrote: »
    because we are waiting to see how it pans out for them.....which is the smart to do.

    No the smart thing is to reopen Ireland and see how Ireland does

    The stupid thing is to wait and see what happens in a densely populated country with 60m people 12m of whom are in the risk category.


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    #1018
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,922 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Arghus wrote: »
    Behind the pay wall.

    If anyone has a way to read this article I'd appreciate it.

    Basically virus will burn itself out anyway


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    #1019
    MarinersBlues
    Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭MarinersBlues


    Arghus wrote: »
    Behind the pay wall.

    If anyone has a way to read this article I'd appreciate it.

    If you join your local library you can the the independent free every day using the Press Reader app.

    Takes about 10 mins to set yourself up.


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    #1020
    johnboy1298
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭johnboy1298


    It will be interesting over the next few weeks, but the easing of restrictions so far has proved successful in austria etc. The swedish epidemiologists & Michael Levitt may well be proved right too over that tie period. If this continues there will be a very strong argument to be made that the length of our phases has been hugely over cautious. The pressure will come on the government quickly if this is the case as every day they waste is costing a fortune and more and more businesses will come under pressure to open or shut for good. I would imagine that the press will jump on this as they finally notice that the corona virus death numbers are no longer particularly news worthy and they realise recession is the next big headline problem.


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    #1021
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    No idea what to make of this myself but thought I'd put it up here
    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/nobel-scientist-predicts-virus-will-burn-out-in-next-two-weeks-39194015.html

    Wow I read the article with some skepticism as it looks like a typical headline grabber...but it’s actually one of the more interesting articles I’ve read during this time. His analysis of the situation, data and other factors...seem to have a lot of merit.


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