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Aer Lingus Fleet/ Routes Discussion Pt 2 (ALL possible routes included)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    I can only assume that they found something in Newquay that was deemed an uneconomical repair. C'est la vie.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    No, it was retired from service and ferried to NQY for parking before the flight to NOC - possibly to enable certain equipment etc. to be removed for future use by Aer Lingus.



  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭TheBetsy


    Its a shame imo that they are retiring aircraft as the NEOs come in, instead of using the opportunity to expand the fleet.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    The fleet hasn't really grown over the last 10 years.

    While they make a big deal about the A321LR/XLRs the shorthaul operation seems like the poor cousin. I would like to see a bit of expansion to facilitate more transfer traffic on the USA-DUB-Europe network. EG. Daily flights up to 2x daily. 3x weekly up to 5x weekly etc. Chop those routes over winter if needed.


    Yes, this would result in a drop in loadfactor on those routes. But it would ensure that they have resilience in their DUB transfer operation. And by offering cheaper tickets they could (over time) build up those load factors with point to point traffic.

    Like the MAN base, it takes a C Suite decision to say "lets take the short term hit to absorb the financial loss in order to build a better operations in 12-24 months"



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,173 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    They do seem rather stagnant, the only interest EI seem to have in regards to expansion is stateside, and thats not an endless pot of gold.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Fly to SFO or SEA from Dublin and see any number of Google/Facebook/Amazon/Microsoft people in economy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Yeah J is definitely the excpetion rather than the rule for most Corporates these days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    I had a business trip at the start of this year to SYD – and I had to fly economy.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    EI-LRD, the A321LR which suffered a tail strike in Washington last month, is on the move to Cincinnati. Seems to be maintaining a cruising altitude of 7700ft.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    In other news, the Privilege Style 757 that has been operating for Aer Lingus for several weeks finishes up tonight and will return to Madrid. However it is being retired and will shortly be flown to the USA for disposal.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    On its way at the moment!



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,854 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Unpressurized presumably. Why Cincinatti though?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭Astral Nav


    Because a specialist repair company with Airbus approval for structural repairs might be based there?



  • Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭HTCOne


    Exactly. Otherwise you're looking at IAD-BGR-YYT-KEF-PIK-TLS or similar at that altitude.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,854 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well yeah I was hoping somone might be able to answer that question!

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Wouldn't even come to that surely with the Alabama facility ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭HTCOne


    Do they do the repair you need, how much do they charge and when do they next have a hangar slot available? That'll come into it too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 45 chasing_ghosts


    I'm currently on an internship at a small leasing company, and everyone seems to fly in business whenever they're called to various spots around the world. Maybe it's an exception but from what I can see - they could do with making economy the only option!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Finance people have little care for cost and leasing companies are literally swimming in cash so enjoy it while it lasts, grab all the airmiles



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭goodlad_ourvlad


    name of wifi system that uses VHF/UHF as backhaul over land?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,780 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Gogo in the US use UHF (850Mhz) and microwave (3Ghz) for ground to air internet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭goodlad_ourvlad


    I'm aware of their service, I'm not aware of a European service yet?



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,780 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There's 5G Air to Ground in Europe, which might actually dip as low as UHF frequencies; I'm not sure and can't quickly find what they use.



  • Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭HTCOne


    From what I’ve read, in Germany Deutsche Telekom and in France Orange are providing VHF/UHF A2G internet for airlines.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    Icelandair and Finnair both have WiFi on board their short haul flights. No idea what they use.

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,780 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It would have to be satellite based for Icelandair considering the lack of ground under much of their routes. Usually Ku-band



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Talking about this stuff in this thread is almost as pointless as talking about Las Vegas! 😗😉🤔



  • Registered Users Posts: 777 ✭✭✭MICKEYG


    Flew KLM during the week.

    App is so far ahead of Aer Lingus. Gate updates, time updates etc. Delivered immediately. Able to change your seat without issue even after boarding pass is issued.

    I imagine you can check in online if a multi city booking but can't confirm. All I know is it is beyond Aer Lingus.

    None of this is hard to do if the will is there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    The Aer Lingus app is light years behind its nearest rivals, it hasn’t actually advanced in terms of basic capabilities since they first launched it over a decade ago.

    You can book flights, add some extras and check in pretty easily but everything else is either a clumsy mess or simply not possible.

    Ryanair delivers gate information, often in advance of the airport boards and even its on board menu is a simplified, app friendly version available to view offline. Aer Lingus only started uploading their menu to the app this year and then it took them a couple of months to make it available offline. Worse still, it’s just the PDF of the printed menu which isn’t ideal for phone screens.

    They can change the way the app and website look however many times they want but it’s pointless if the technology behind it is still decades too old.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    The Aer Lingus app (on android) doesn't even let you save your boarding pass or add it to Google wallet. Every time I try, it complains about not having storage access permission, yet when I go to the settings to enable them, the app supposedly doesn't ask for them!




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