Flightradar24 (and other trackers) Thread Part IV

EchoIndia

Can you imagine the difficulties for the airlines' ops people, with lots of aircraft diverted elsewhere and a constantly evolving situation right across their network? If there was zero communication it would be worse. It's a risk that we all take when booking a trip - that a major weather event will occur and plans will be thrown into disarray. It's something that airlines can do very little about and, from monitoring the activity at Dublin during the day, I think the aircrew and ATC worked very well and tried their best to get people safely to their destinations. However the winds remained adverse for most of the day and I believe there were more than 50 go-arounds, most of which involved flights then diverting elsewhere.

Acosta

Sources like Flight Radar are very handy when you're delayed. The likes of Ryanair will drip feed you information, but at least you can see where the aircraft that you're waiting for is. So when they do their usual carry on of not letting you know how long you'll be waiting, you will have a good idea by looking up the previous aircraft movement.

Pacing Mule

Yeah that's how I knew there was no way we were leaving on time. But still forced to turn up at the airport what will be 9 hours before the flight because they didn't update / and even when they did at first it was to still tell everyone to go to airport on time.

I can live with delays, totally understand weather playing havoc, and the massive job it was / is to deal with it all. I just don't think it's too much of an ask to be given accurate information.

As a further example, ground staff here have now said they won't be sourcing accommodation etc because they don't think the 5:45 departure is accurate :D

JCX BXC

I see the plane is outbound now at least.

RocketRaccoon

Shannon ran out of buses yesterday evening so inbound diverted pax were told that they had to make their own way to their destinations.

wazzzledazzle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743430#Comment_122743430

I'd be interested to hear some of the stories from pax diverted to the UK and elsewhere about how their experiences were, be it, replacement aircraft, accomodation, food etc, almost an impossible task in some cases for airlines.

With it being the start of the working week there will be some upset people no doubt unable to get to work/school this morning, thinking of the Tenerife flight diverted to the UK especially

gipi

Currently in Berlin, EI flight home was cancelled (as the outbound from Dublin was cancelled) - group of 23 of us (plus others of course).

Having walked through the airport, we found one member of ground staff who told us to scan a qr code for a hotel voucher for 1 night and make our own way to the hotel (trains off, so it was 2 buses apparently). No other information forthcoming. Per communication with the group leader, EI can't get us back till Tuesday night. Ground staff do nothing for 2 night delays, it's left to the passengers to sort it.

My group decided to make our own hotel arrangements for 2 nights, so we're not stuck in an airport hotel 20km from the city. We had to organise same, plus transport. No offers of food, etc - the airport was pretty much closed so there weren't any options!

wazzzledazzle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743525#Comment_122743525

Keep receipts for everything obviously (food, travel, accomodation) That sounds like a nightmare. Can you not get a train to another airport(Hamburg maybe) and get a flight home today? Just claim it back

Pacing Mule

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743104#Comment_122743104

It landed at 3am but we didn't get on it until 3 hours later at 6am. Just back in Dub now.

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743542#Comment_122743542

Be aware that EU261 compensation does not cover disruption caused by extreme weather, so you may not qualify for reimbursement.

wazzzledazzle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743631#Comment_122743631

But it's still the airlines responsibility to get you back to your destination. Whatever about compensation, which wouldn't be payable, i'd be pretty sure you can claim back relevant expenses that you incur

LiamaDelta

How do crews fare out with hours restrictions on the likes of the flight that went Dub to Marseille, leaving at 7am, then diverted to Glasgow on return and then diverted to Shannon when trying again, eventually arriving in Dublin at 02.37am. Presumably there had to be a crew change in there somewhere?

Chris_5339762

Yes you won't get the 250eur UK/EU261 compensation as it is a weather delay.

But the airline has duty-of-care to get you to your destination, so they should cover hotels/food/transport.

useless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743443#Comment_122743443

I was on a flight to Dublin yesterday that diverted to MAN. Within an hour of landing I had been rebooked- to travel on Tuesday morning back to Dublin via an airport on the continent. Staff at the service agent in MAN were clueless and were just taking names of passengers who needed hotel accom, without actually providing any. I guess someone else in the organisation was busy bargaining with hotels, and that anyone who showed up at the desk earlier would have gotten a call later on with hotel details. In any case, with me and a bunch of other passengers needing to be in work today, we hopped in a taxi to Holyhead and took the ferry back. Let's just say I was glad I hadn't eaten much yesterday. It was verrry rough.

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122745213#Comment_122745213

Taxi to Hollyhead… that must have been some bill. How much did it come to and how many shared it?

Tenger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122743722#Comment_122743722

No Crew change on that one.

Unless they had reserve crew on hand in Glaagow or Shannon.

useless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122745353#Comment_122745353

just over €200 between 4 of us. €59 for the ferry. Will try to claim it from the airline but I wont be holding my breath. The irony is that it would've cost them much more if they'd had to pay for two hotel nights and meals for me as per their original proposal.

LiamaDelta

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122745829#Comment_122745829

I don't think you'll have trouble getting that back, depending on the airline. I've had weather cancellations on both EI and FR recently and was refunded the flight and taxi fare home without issue.

Tenger

WWalking through Templogue earlier, spotted this overhead. Pics weren't good as the sun was glaring.

vswr

Casa left it's ADSB on while it's currently en-route towards Rockall…. hopefully no position updates over HF or SATCOM, as it will give their grid ref format away….

Also lurking off the west coast is a B-52, not showing on any sites at the moment.

vswr

they must have seen this…. off now (or out of range)

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122802062#Comment_122802062

Probably at a low enough altitude (to sneak under the British radars ;) ) so the ADSB receivers would have lost it pretty quickly.

JCX BXC

Fog at Cork, RK3732 Ryanair from Edinburgh in the hold at 8,000ft.

Chris_5339762

Interesting that today is the only day with actual fog problems at Cork, given that its been a full week of disgusting mist and fog!

JCX BXC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122807524#Comment_122807524

It never actually got foggy enough until today!

Earlier flights landed, but the last 3 aircraft diverted, EI from Tenerife went to Shannon, Emerald from Bristol and Ryanair from Stansted went to Dublin.

10-10-20

Interesting to see a Poseidon P-8 out of RAF Kinloss off the coast of Wexford with ADSB enabled.

A strategic position and interesting focal-point in marine terms.

10-10-20

Just for interest's sake, that Poseidon remained off the Wexford coast until around 40 mins ago, either with their transponder off or too low to be detected (but probably off during operations), and is currently en-route back to RAF Lossimouth (not Kinloss). Related or not, the Casa is now routing up that same stretch of sea.

vswr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831008#Comment_122831008

Yantar was expected off Cornwall

Russian spy ship present off British coast

US Navy P8 did some high level loops off Cork a few hours ago too, then continued south

edit: these dudes too

Russian frigate with hypersonic missiles conducts drills in English Channel | Irish Independent

vswr

interestingly enough, where C285 is on that map is the approx area where that US contract ship without AIS working was working last year I think it was

JCX BXC

FR2305 Lanzarote to Knock holding at 20000ft between Ballinasloe and Loughrea due to fog at Knock.

JCX BXC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833989#Comment_122833989

Waited almost an hour, off to Dublin now. Will be over 5 hours in the air for them!

daymobrew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833989#Comment_122833989

Some perfectly straight looking loops: https://www.flightradar24.com/RYR7FL/37f59656

Tenger

Yikes!

ARN-MIA encounters severe turbulence. Looks like it drops 6000ft in a few minutes. Turned back to CPH.

https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1857154719216439464

https://aviationa2z.com/index.php/2024/11/15/sas-copenhagen-miami-flight-makes-u-turn-after-turbulence/

TPMP

Just heard the Antonov 124 very low over my house having just departed Shannon. Is this a Russian company operating it? Surprised to see it if it is as I thought Russian airlines were banned from Irish air space?

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846119#Comment_122846119

It's operated by Antonov Airlines (Ukraine).