A fry-up in the morning. Is it unhealthy?

Pintman Paddy Losty

Bit cynical wrote: »

No need to buy fancy "lard". Just save beef tallow and other fats from cooking. Bacon grease from previous fry-ups can be mixed in too. No harm in various meat flavourings in the cooking fat and in fact improves the flavour of things like fried eggs which don't have much of their own.

That sounds absolutely vile.

EmmetSpiceland

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

That sounds absolutely vile.

Ipso fatso.

cj maxx

Muahahaha wrote: »

Id say a lot of people with airfryers would disagree with that, Ive never found any discernable difference in the flavour of food that is cooked in the main oven over the airfryer. Airfryers are typically 3-5 litres in size whereas ovens are 45-60 litres which means warm up times and cooking times are reduced dramatically in an airfryer. The basket in an airfryer means the air circulates everywhere around the food and it does so in a vortex such is the power of the fan in a small space.

Air fryers are brilliant.
Like an oven ,yes but half the time and so much easier.
Only thing is to clean them as soon as they get dirty with oil etc.

Ush1

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I once asked if there was an brown sauce in a school friend’s house. His mother replied “No” before adding “we’re not common”.

I would have assumed sauce transcended the “class barrier” but apparently not.

Personally, I always work under the “rule” of ketchup with chips, sausages and burgers and then brown with rashers, pork chops and ham sandwiches.

Sauces like soft drinks are for children and the working class.

Pawwed Rig

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

If by 'some job' you mean a bad job I agree completely

As I said I’m really surprised to hear someone say that. I personally think airfryer Is the best way to cook sausages I don’t think any other method cooks them as well. Makes the skin perfect and still lovely and moist not not dripping in oil and grease like form a pan, next best is grill then oven with my least favourite being fried.

Anyone who has had food cooked by me in the airfryer has either bought one or is on the look out for one, you are one of the only people I’ve ever heard not to like them.

Cienciano

Corona20 wrote: »

Brown sauce makes a fry.
I would settle for sausages pudding and brown sauce on toast. Eggs rashers tomato and beans on the side.
And a supersize tea.
To go.

Adyx wrote: »

There's absolutely nothing wrong with brown sauce mixed in with the beans.

A question for brown sauce experts. Is there a difference between YR sauce, HP sauce and Chef brown sauce?

EmmetSpiceland

Cienciano wrote: »

A question for brown sauce experts. Is there a difference between YR sauce, HP sauce and Chef brown sauce?

Yes, YR is the best one. It’s the most “vinegary”.

The other two are fine but they are both too sweet.

Bit cynical

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

That sounds absolutely vile.

It does but it works. McDonalds chips used to be fried in beef tallow.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Muahahaha wrote: »

Id say a lot of people with airfryers would disagree with that, Ive never found any discernable difference in the flavour of food that is cooked in the main oven over the airfryer. Airfryers are typically 3-5 litres in size whereas ovens are 45-60 litres which means warm up times and cooking times are reduced dramatically in an airfryer. The basket in an airfryer means the air circulates everywhere around the food and it does so in a vortex such is the power of the fan in a small space.

But the baskets are quite small even in the larger airfryers so you have to do things in batches if cooking for more than one or two people (or want to cook a few day’s worth), negating the shorter cooking time for each individual batch. Oven-cooking can be quicker sometimes due to the same issue. Personally, I’d rather be able to put everything in in one go. After that, the cooking time doesn’t really matter.

Badly Drunk Boy

salmocab wrote: »

How do people feel about a few chips? I would never think about it when doing one for myself but if they come out in a cafe I’m beyond delighted, especially if they are not the frozen ones.

If they don't have hash browns in the canteen in work, they have fried potato slices (or maybe oven cooked). That's always a lovely surprise, probably because it's so rare...:)

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

But the baskets are quite small even in the larger airfryers so you have to do things in batches if cooking for more than one or two people (or want to cook a few day’s worth), negating the shorter cooking time for each individual batch. Oven-cooking can be quicker sometimes due to the same issue. Personally, I’d rather be able to put everything in in one go. After that, the cooking time doesn’t really matter.

Batch cooking wouldn’t be something we would do much if but even so I don’t think the type of food we would be cooking normally in the airfryer would be the type of food you would be batch cooking: cooked breakfasts (as being discussed here), chips, steaks, burgers, roasted veg/potatoes, chicken wings/drumsticks, gougons etc. Nothing you would batch cook really. Currys, pies, stews etc are always going to be oven dishes and the type of thing you would do in bulk (if you do bulk cooking).

That being said I would love one far bigger than the one we have, we have the smallest one and with the addition of the rack inside to give you two layers I can cook most things for two people like all the ingredients of a breakfast or if it’s chips you can do enough for 3 or 4 people. Definitely going to pick up the biggest one possible when I am in the market for one again though.

The thing is though it cooks many things much better than an oven too so that’s the attraction also. Like the difference between oven chips in an airfryer and in an oven is massive.

Babooshka

Mr. CooL ICE wrote: »

re fish sauce - I'm guessing it wouldn't be too far off throwing a sprinkling of Worcestershire sauce into the frying pan. And if you haven't done that, then try it

Do not put fish and worceseseseter in the same sentence you heathen. Fish sauce smells like piss.

Babooshka

the beer revolu wrote: »

If I was served the OP's "Fry", 2 things would come into my head:

1. Did I order the veggie fry?
2. Why the fcuk is there a rasher in the veggie fry?


Oh, and "fcuk off baked beans"

Oh and why does my breakfast smell like piss, that'll be the fish sauce son.

wakka12

You have made a healthy fry so yes it is healthy

Corben Dallas

A question for brown sauce experts. Is there a difference between YR sauce, HP sauce and Chef brown sauce?

HP. The one and only. Chefs Brown Sauce is a poor relation.

Chefs Tomato Sauce is solid though.

Plus anyone who serves up Beans as part of a fry-up, ...needs a serious talking to.

JohnnyFlash

Corben Dallas wrote: »

A question for brown sauce experts. Is there a difference between YR sauce, HP sauce and Chef brown sauce?

HP. The one and only. Chefs Brown Sauce is a poor relation.

Chefs Tomato Sauce is solid though.

Plus anyone who serves up Beans as part of a fry-up, ...needs a serious talking to.

This dude gets it.

El_Duderino 09

Babooshka wrote: »

Do not put fish and worceseseseter in the same sentence you heathen. Fish sauce smells like piss.

Worcestershire sauce has fermented anchovies in it. Not a million miles away from fish sauce in terms of the umami flavour they both bring.

Im a big fan of fish sauce but haven't tried it on a breakfast. I can't really see where it fits in.

Worcestershire sauce can just fcuk off though.

salmocab

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

If they don't have hash browns in the canteen in work, they have fried potato slices (or maybe oven cooked). That's always a lovely surprise, probably because it's so rare...:)

Yeah it’s probably the treat part of it alright, a cafe in the park near me does really nice fried cubes with the fry, unfortunately it’s recently been closed and taken over by a chain that is less than decent in its food and service. It was getting refurbished so presumably after places open my fried potatoes are a thing of the past.

El_Duderino 09

Corben Dallas wrote: »

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Plus anyone who serves up Beans as part of a fry-up, ...needs a serious talking to.

Anyone who dumps beans on top of the breakfast, in a civilised society, needs a talking to and they need a word with themselves.

But I've made peace with having beans on the side in a bowl or a ramekin if you're feeling middle class. But beans shouldn't touch anything else on the breakfast plate unless you want it to.

CrankyHaus

salmocab wrote: »

Yeah it’s probably the treat part of it alright, a cafe in the park near me does really nice fried cubes with the fry, unfortunately it’s recently been closed and taken over by a chain that is less than decent in its food and service. It was getting refurbished so presumably after places open my fried potatoes are a thing of the past.

They serve those as home fries in the States, lovely yokes and I wish they were more common here. Though obviously the bacon over there is not generally as good as what you get here.

Babooshka

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Worcestershire sauce has fermented anchovies in it. Not a million miles away from fish sauce in terms of the umami flavour they both bring.

Im a big fan of fish sauce but haven't tried it on a breakfast. I can't really see where it fits in.

Worcestershire sauce can just fcuk off though.

Horses for courses, Worcester sauce has a more rounded flavour with a tinge of sweetness akin to YR sauce, is delicious on cheese on toast. Fish sauce smells like piss.

Babooshka

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Anyone who dumps beans on top of the breakfast, in a civilised society, needs a talking to and they need a word with themselves.

But I've made peace with having beans on the side in a bowl or a ramekin if you're feeling middle class. But beans shouldn't touch anything else on the breakfast plate unless you want it to.

I break out in sweats when I see beans beside eggs, oh my god. Vile.

salmocab

CrankyHaus wrote: »

They serve those as home fries in the States, lovely yokes and I wish they were more common here. Though obviously the bacon over there is not generally as good as what you get here.

I find the stuff in the states is very hit and miss. Either delicious or some potatoe like nonsense. They do know how to do an egg though.

Main thing I've learnt from this thread is that people have a very specific idea of what a fry-up™ is. I didn't really realise this and just considered a fry to be breakfast from a frying pan and had it in my mind it was pretty bad no matter what way you did it.

I'm pretty glad it's not always bad. Mushrooms, onions, tomatoes, and big chunks of garlic are some of my favourite things to eat. Sure I could use a tastier oil I suppose but that's about it. It's already tasty so doubt I'll change it up much.

I get why people don't like my opening post. I wouldn't be happy either if I got that out in a restaurant. I like it a lot but it's definitely more of a bite to eat before work, more akin to a cereal than a nice Sunday morning event.

Babooshka

Babooshka wrote: »

I break out in sweats when I see beans beside eggs, oh my god. Vile.

Weirdly enough, exactly this for me.

Not a big fan of beans with a fry but if they're to be on the plate, they absolutely cannot touch the egg. They can tip off anything else; sausage, pudding, rasher, toast, etc, but absolutely not the egg.

If the beans touch the egg, the breakfast is irredeemable.

Also, what is fish sauce?

Babooshka

Babooshka wrote: »

Do not put fish and worceseseseter in the same sentence you heathen. Fish sauce smells like piss.

You should go to the doctor if your piss is smelling like fish sauce.

It's one of the worst smelling things I know, but smells nothing like piss.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Also, what is fish sauce?

It's used to add flavour to dishes. It smells absolutely rank out of the bottle, but does wonders for the taste of certain meals after it's been cooked in.

Not a fry though, never a fry.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

It's used to add flavour to dishes. It smells absolutely rank out of the bottle, but does wonders for the taste of certain meals after it's been cooked in.

Not a fry though, never a fry.

You've piqued my curiosity.

I'll have to get some next time I'm doing the shopping.

Aromat (MSG), Worcestershire sauce, Soy sauce, Fish sauce, Oyster Sauce.. It's all similar; adding unami to a dish. Fish sauce just happens to be the most common where I am.

cj maxx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Aromat (MSG), Worcestershire sauce, Soy sauce, Fish sauce, Oyster Sauce.. It's all similar; adding unami to a dish. Fish sauce just happens to be the most common where I am.

I'd never heard of unami. Something new every day I suppose

Hoboo

Bullocks wrote: »

Try Kelly's white pudding . Better than sex !

Completely agree. Think it's the buttermilk in it, I could eat it raw

ShatterAlan

Deleted User wrote: »

I made myself a bit of a fry earlier and can't see how it was that unhealthy.. Half a teaspoon of olive oil. Onions. Garlic. Mushrooms. Cherry tomatoes. Slice of bacon. Scrambled eggs. Slice of brown bread toast. All cooked on a low to medium heat with a dash of fish sauce.

You always hear that fries are terrible but I'm not seeing it. I'm not overweight so don't care about some bacon, and the rest could be put into any "healthy" meal. The fish sauce has sodium but I only used a tiny bit.

Does the mantra that they're a heart attack on a plate come from them being cooked in loads of crappy oil or lard? I definitely made some very unhealthy ones in the past with tonnes of oil.

Fish sauce? In a fryup?


Onions, garlic, mushrooms, cherry tomatoes?


You didn't make a fryup, mate, you had Chop-fcuking-Suey with a rasher.

cj maxx

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Fish sauce? In a fryup?


Onions, garlic, mushrooms, cherry tomatoes?


You didn't make a fryup, mate, you had Chop-fcuking-Suey with a rasher.

Onion and mushrooms and tomato defo in a fry up.
Fry the mushrooms with the tomatoes fcucking lovely

SEPT 23 1989

too many mentions of the word fish in this thread

cj maxx

cj maxx wrote: »

Onion and mushrooms and tomato defo in a fry up.
Fry the mushrooms with the tomatoes fcucking lovely

My missus hates tomatoes and mushrooms, the fkin eejit. Oh well, more for me!

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

You've piqued my curiosity.

I'll have to get some next time I'm doing the shopping.

It's more common in curries and stews. Never heard of it on a breakfast before so if you're going to try it for the first time, try it in a traditional recipe. It does wonders for a curry. The umami flavour is the one you get when you brown meat, for example. It ties the other flavours (Sweet, Salty, Sour, Bitter) together lovely.

It's a table condiment in south east asia. Smells terrible as it's made by pressing fermented fish. but by jesus, does it add flavour

El_Duderino 09

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

It's more common in curries and stews. Never heard of it on a breakfast before so if you're going to try it for the first time, try it in a traditional recipe. It does wonders for a curry. The umami flavour is the one you get when you brown meat, for example. It ties the other flavours (Sweet, Salty, Sour, Bitter) together lovely.

It's a table condiment in south east asia. Smells terrible as it's made by pressing fermented fish. but by jesus, does it add flavour

In pasta sauces too, just amazing.

Fish sauce and real butter, two things I couldn't be doing without in my kitchen.

El_Duderino 09

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

too many mentions of the word fish in this thread

I knew a butcher who would have a fry at any time of the day or night. Wouldn't consider it a fry unless it also had a lamb chop, liver, and beef steak. I suppose it was more of a mixed grill.

Mixed grills were the business. The height of sophistication in the 80s in my dad's peer group, or so I'm told.

ShatterAlan

corks finest wrote: »

Worked in Germany in the late 70s didn't find any of their sausages appealing TBH,
Spent over 12 years (5 plus times a year) in Transylvania,
All their sausages are of german ( Saxon) origin,and again not great,now the German bread is tops, liked their beer when o used take alcohol, but Irish sausage for me I'd number 1, alongside Clonakilty white pudding

I would agree. Visited Germany many times and worked there for 2 years. The only passable sausage they have is the standard bratwurst.....actually the little Nurnberger sausages on a bed of sauerkraut are quite good...but the rest suck. They've got this red thing I think it's called Krakauer......it's that weird radioactive red like tandoori chicken and it's pretty crap.



The Irish make great sausages and so do the brits. Cumberlands, garlic and leek Lincolnshires.


Italian sausages are very good too but not really suitable for a fyup. Better to have them with peppers and onions and a crusty ciabatta and a tankard of meaty Chianti. Spanish Catalan sausages are good too....again to be had similar to the Italian accompaniment.


The OP thinks food is of poor quality if he witnesses a slob eating it.

jimgoose

Hoboo wrote: »

Completely agree. Think it's the buttermilk in it, I could eat it raw

Black pudding is fully cooked before it arrives in the shop - it's boiled.

ShatterAlan

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Streaky or back rashers lads? I'd eat both without fuss in a fry,but a back rasher is probably better for the fry,and a streaky in a sambo or burger?

Streaky should only be used as a flavour enhancer...not as the main meat. So you put crispy streaky bacon on top of a burger, then the fried onions on top of that, then the cheese on top of the onions and then the whole shebang under the grill until the cheese melts down and binds all the toppings to the burger.

WhiteMemento9

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

The old turkey bacon can fcuk right back off to America.
It’s a pig rasher or nothing and leave the rind on it.

Agree on the bacon. At the risk of getting lynched in this thread. When turkey sausages are made well it is a pretty good tasty, healthier alternative to the real thing. Often would have Turkey Sausages, Bacon, Scrambled Egg, Pudding and some breans. Hugely enjoyable meal and reasonabley healthy along with the fact that if you are a gym-goer then it is a very high protein rich meal.

doodledoo2

cj maxx wrote: »

I'd never heard of unami. Something new every day I suppose

It's uMami!
I hear it in Vic Reeve's voice, though Google tells me it's not what he said ("Uvavu").

SEPT 23 1989

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Streaky should only be used as a flavour enhancer...not as the main meat. So you put crispy streaky bacon on top of a burger, then the fried onions on top of that, then the cheese on top of the onions and then the whole shebang under the grill until the cheese melts down and binds all the toppings to the burger.

I went to Spain once

All they seem to have is streaky

Not great for the bowels a week of that

ShatterAlan

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Absolutely this. Right down to the tea with it.

And I say that as a coffee lover.

And the tea has to be the right temperature. Too hot to drink quickly.....but not so hot that it will scald you. With all the salt in the fryup you with be naturally thirsty so a big quaff of the tea causes a slight discomfort but you do it anyway like so: "slurp...swallow...ahhh to release the heat.....bite of toast....slurp...swallow...aaghh....to release the heat.....big eggy/sausagey burp....then back to the knife and fork for the next few mouthfuls"

Pintman Paddy Losty

Airfryers are ridiculous things. Gimmicks like George foreman grills. For povs who don't know how to cook or are too lazy.

Ipso

Tabasco sauce on a fry????

Sam Quentin

That's not a fry-up,.if I threw that up to the family I'd be bate round the head with a pound of butter and a frying pan jayyyyysizzz Creeeeeest,.shir me bird would ate 2 of them in a sandwich.... Anyway it's really not a fry-up I doubt yid even need to get stints in if you ate 3 of them every week for life...

ShatterAlan

Seamai wrote: »

I love currywurst, I even found a recipe to make my own at home for when we feel like a bit of comfort food.

I've noticed that there are 2 types of currywurst in Germany. One is with curry sauce slathered all over the chopped sausages and this is very good. I first had it in the main railway station in Cologne and went back for it everyday for the weekend. The other type is the chopped sausages with just curry powder sprinkled over and this is sh1t.