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Extinction Rebellion folks?

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  • 16-05-2020 11:03am
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭


    Wondering where they have gone.

    I noticed that none of them show up at our biannual town cleanups.
    So much for thinking globally and acting locally!

    Just us middle aged tax payers down in the ditches on a Saturday pulling out the litter. Pretty depressing when you see what people dump and throw out of their cars.

    Was the whole ER movement just an ineffectual fad then?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Wondering where they have gone?

    They're all extinct.


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭jim salter


    McMurphy wrote: »
    They're all extinct.

    Hopefully


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is a straw man if I ever saw one. Extinction Rebellion has nothing to do with cleaning up litter. They've got their sights set way higher. Something like changing the systems in place to prevent the litter being created in the first place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    This is a straw man if I ever saw one. Extinction Rebellion has nothing to do with cleaning up litter. They've got their sights set way higher. Something like changing the systems in place to prevent the litter being created in the first place.

    Nah, theyre anarchists who realise their ‘socialist revolution’ wont be stomached by the general public so dress it up with the environment instead. They just want unreachable targets for business, to bankrupt the meat industry and to install a far left government by proxy.

    Utter loons.

    Its the green party for people who hate their parents and cant find work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Picking up litter albeit a nice gesture is kind of pointless, for everything you pick up factories are pumping out more and more of this crap non stop. The whole system of consumption needs to change. I don't know why people hold them in such contempt given the damage our capitalist machine is doing to the planet, something has to change or we're all doomed.
    What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Picking up litter albeit a nice gesture is kind of pointless, for everything you pick up factories are pumping out more and more of this crap non stop. The whole system of consumption needs to change. I don't know why people hold them in such contempt given the damage our capitalist machine is doing to the planet, something has to change or we're all doomed.
    What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

    It's not pointless.

    Getting high and blocking traffic is pointless.

    Try cleaning up something instead of moaning.

    ER are just a bunch of lazy hypocrites.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Assume they've joined the anti-lockdown brigade, Gemma as a leading eco activist? "Gulp"


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭O'Neill


    Albeit in a minority. Not all of those who are part of it are ‘lefties’, apparently there are a few on the far right who participate in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    O'Neill wrote: »
    Albeit in a minority. Not all of those who are part of it are ‘lefties’, apparently there are a few on the far right who participate in it.

    Hardly far right.

    Hitler was far right.

    Modern day lefties think FF are far right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    It's not pointless.

    Getting high and blocking traffic is pointless.

    Try cleaning up something instead of moaning.

    ER are just a bunch of lazy hypocrites.

    Who is getting high? Are you sure you're not talking about stereotypical hippies from the summer of love San Francisco or something?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭Nermal


    What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

    Um... yes? Why wouldn't I be afraid of that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Nermal wrote: »
    Um... yes? Why wouldn't I be afraid of that?

    It's just kind of sad that any attempt to fix our environment boils down to people unwilling to give anything up and demanding to have whatever they want whenever they want, it will be the death of our planet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Nah, theyre anarchists who realise their ‘socialist revolution’ wont be stomached by the general public so dress it up with the environment instead. They just want unreachable targets for business, to bankrupt the meat industry and to install a far left government by proxy.

    Utter loons.

    Its the green party for people who hate their parents and cant find work.

    Eric how can you blame the basket case that is the meat industry in Ireland on the greens or ER?


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭O'Neill


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Hardly far right.

    Hitler was far right.

    Modern day lefties think FF are far right.

    Eco-fascism you call it apparently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    O'Neill wrote: »
    Eco-fascism you call it apparently.

    Another Twitter Eco warrior .

    Try doing something tangible.
    It feels rewarding!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    It's just kind of sad that any attempt to fix our environment boils down to people unwilling to give anything up and demanding to have whatever they want whenever they want, it will be the death of our planet.

    What have you done to help the planet?


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surely this international lockdown has done more for envirnoment,than anything in the last 200 odd years??


    Id be suprised,if there wasnt some sort of measurable improvement by end of year in ozone layers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭O'Neill


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Another Twitter Eco warrior .

    Try doing something tangible.
    It feels rewarding!

    :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Surely this international lockdown has done more for envirnoment,than anything in the last 200 odd years??

    Prepare for an unpleasant surprise so. CO2 is going to be down about 5% this year. To do that we have had to spend a quarter of the year indoors and trigger the worst depression in three centuries.

    The Green Party want us to stick to a plan involving reductions of over 7% per year, every year, until we start absorbing CO2 back from the atmosphere.

    Our civilisation is built on carbon - if you want to build one that isn't, fair enough. But be honest, tell people the truth - that it will be a civilisation of poverty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    Wondering where they have gone.

    I noticed that none of them show up at our biannual town cleanups.
    So much for thinking globally and acting locally!.....

    OP, I'm wondering who you mean.

    Is it the Irish equivalent of whats reported today on https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000j7h2 ( skip to 7min 30sec or so ) ?


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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nermal wrote: »
    Prepare for an unpleasant surprise so. CO2 is going to be down about 5% this year. To do that we have had to spend a quarter of the year indoors and trigger the worst depression in three centuries.

    The Green Party want us to stick to a plan involving reductions of over 7% per year, every year, until we start absorbing CO2 back from the atmosphere.

    Our civilisation is built on carbon - if you want to build one that isn't, fair enough. But be honest, tell people the truth - that it will be a civilisation of poverty.

    It will be interesting to see the effect on likes of ozone layer/global warming,air quality etc


    We'll soon know,how serious or otherwise this issue is,


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Anybody watched planet of the humans on YouTube?

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,583 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Best clip I saw was a few months ago when 2 of them were on the roof of a train stopping it from moving which in turn was going to make people late for work.

    They annoyed the wrong crowd that time because they caught one of them and gave him a few digs.

    I'd say the dirty crusties are keeping out of the way these days because they know people are in no humour for their antics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    They've not gone away you know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    They’re with the Occupy people that were camping on Dame Street at the Central Bank. Probably off looking for Kony at the minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    So its OK to spread to every last corner of the globe in the name of 'growth' and leave an ecological wasteland behind? That will not be a problem at all, no?

    Whatever about their current make-up but ecological preservation has no mandate at all. Is that what you guys are saying, yes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,591 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Picking up litter albeit a nice gesture is kind of pointless, for everything you pick up factories are pumping out more and more of this crap non stop. The whole system of consumption needs to change. I don't know why people hold them in such contempt given the damage our capitalist machine is doing to the planet, something has to change or we're all doomed.
    What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

    What idiocy is this ??!

    Picking up litter is pointless ??

    ER blocked up streets making a nuisance of themselves calling for a change to “the system” while they were seen in their droves in and out of McDonalds and Costa supporting fast food, non recyclable packaging slave labour and industrial farming.

    Yet you give them a pass on litter picking in their own locality.


    They were out to make a fuss and he seen on social media. They had no other motive other than to be seen to be asking for a change without actually having to do anything difficult themselves.

    Countless clips online of ER representatives being totally dismantled by interviewers as having nothing but double standards and not actually making an effort to live the life they wanted to push onto others.

    https://youtu.be/8ISePLL1wcw


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,709 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Why weren’t extinction out protesting the lockdown?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Why weren’t extinction out protesting the lockdown?

    Corona is quite likely to be a consequence of overpopulation and mass animal production, so in that sense your question is valid. But I don't know the answer, I guess some probably were. But don't forget gatherings are not allowed at the moment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,591 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Why weren’t extinction out protesting the lockdown?

    The lockdown has been great for the planet
    Governments need to figure ways the emulate the lockdown in every day life.

    Massive taxes on air travel would be an obvious thing to do and keep planes out of the sky. Massive taxes on each shipping container every time it’s loaded onto a ship. Reduces all the plastic tat being needlessly produced and shipped. It also gives an advantage to locally produced goods increasing gnp and local jobs.

    These two things alone would make a massive difference.


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