drug use

mr_fegelien

Why do so many people assume that every drug user is a homeless person in tracksuits? Talking to my family and a friend, when you mention weed, the first thing that pops into their mind is someone completely out of it on O'Connell Street, they don't even think of the millions that have smoked it in this country and are financially and mentally functioning.

There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance. I mean everyone is ignorant about some things but willfully talking **** like comparing weed to heroin when you don't have any experience with them makes me lose respect in your eyes.

Timberrrrrrrr

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Why do so many people assume that every drug user is a homeless person in tracksuits? Talking to my family and a friend, when you mention weed, the first thing that pops into their mind is someone completely out of it on O'Connell Street.

There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance. I mean everyone is ignorant about some things but willfully talking **** like comparing weed to heroin when you don't have any experience with them makes me lose respect in your eyes.

You?

Drugs?


Well that explains a lot.

fineso.mom

'Your' family and 'a' friend hardly counts as 'so many' people.

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.

Alrigghtythen

You answered your own question before you asked it



There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

It's people who are anti-drugs, but who drink alcohol and swear blind that "it's not really a drug" that gets me.

frag420

Just be thankful it’s only confined to those few towns with an O’Connel street...

ThewhiteJesus

Well there’s not much around in Dublin now, a friend told me

punisher5112

Millions don't smoke it in Ireland.....
Bizarre comments to make....

There isn't even 5 million here...

Many types of junkie but the ones you see around the city are there to get their fix and methadone from the clinics.

Most of these travel on public transport to get from the housing they're provided with by us tax paying idiots.....

There are also many foreigners going about the city with serious mental issues and drink and drug abuse is big too.

They are standing out more then ever the last few weeks.

punisher5112

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's people who are anti-drugs, but who drink alcohol and swear blind that "it's not really a drug" that gets me.

Different really though as one is legal the rest aren't.....

Yes it's a drug and the majority can handle it and enjoy a few at the weekend or every so often....

Of course there are those that can't handle it at all but what's really taken off is the dangerous cocktail of the mixing of both....

That's the danger.

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

Millions don't smoke it in Ireland.....
Bizarre comments to make....

There isn't even 5 million here...

Many types of junkie but the ones you see around the city are there to get their fix and methadone from the clinics.

Most of these travel on public transport to get from the housing they're provided with by us tax paying idiots.....

There are also many foreigners going about the city with serious mental issues and drink and drug abuse is big too.

They are standing out more then ever the last few weeks.

Feckin ' foreigners taking our drink and drugs.

LeYouth

Get the odd whiff of cannabis in the city centre - often close by 3rd world types. Welcome to Ireland!

ThewhiteJesus

corner of hells wrote: »

Feckin ' foreigners taking our drink and drugs.

They took our jobs

punisher5112

LeYouth wrote: »

Get the odd whiff of cannabis in the city centre - often close by 3rd world types. Welcome to Ireland!

Anywhere along boardwalks or sitting areas I find....

corner of hells

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

They took our jobs

And our boardwalk.

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

Feckin ' foreigners taking our drink and drugs.

Well there was one on George's street the other day abusing anyone that passed and then took it upon himself to relieve the grass from.the cracks in the ground and then twirling around and shouting, looking to the sky and throwing it at people.... The 2 deliveroo guys stuck around a lot longer then I would have but did have the sense eventually to move....

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well there was one on George's street the other day abusing anyone that passed and then took it upon himself to relieve the grass from.the cracks in the ground and then twirling around and shouting, looking to the sky and throwing it at people.... The 2 deliveroo guys stuck around a lot longer then I would have but did have the sense eventually to move....

And there you are , roaming from the boardwalk to Georges street passing judgement on the those poor souls.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

punisher5112 wrote: »

Different really though as one is legal the rest aren't.....

Yes it's a drug and the majority can handle it and enjoy a few at the weekend or every so often....

Of course there are those that can't handle it at all but what's really taken off is the dangerous cocktail of the mixing of both....

That's the danger.

Apart from the first sentence, you could be talking about almost any drug.

weisses

People who are drinking alcohol are drug users ....

punisher5112

weisses wrote: »

People who are drinking alcohol are drug users ....

Would you class them as junkies

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

And there you are , roaming from the boardwalk to Georges street passing judgement on the those poor souls.

Wasn't roaming unfortunately my work has me going by these often...

Blueshoe

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well there was one on George's street the other day abusing anyone that passed and then took it upon himself to relieve the grass from.the cracks in the ground and then twirling around and shouting, looking to the sky and throwing it at people.... The 2 deliveroo guys stuck around a lot longer then I would have but did have the sense eventually to move....

Canal. Job done

The Bishop Basher

punisher5112 wrote: »

Different really though as one is legal the rest aren't.....

Yes it's a drug and the majority can handle it and enjoy a few at the weekend or every so often....

Of course there are those that can't handle it at all but what's really taken off is the dangerous cocktail of the mixing of both....

That's the danger.

No. Alcohol is dangerous enough on it’s own. It doesn’t need any other substance to make complete ****e of your life and of those around you.

It’s also far more likely to do so than weed.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

punisher5112 wrote: »

Would you class them as junkies

How are defining 'junkie'? I ask because every time someone uses the word the seem to mean during different.

If a drug user, then yes.
If a drug pusher, then no. That's more the bar/off-licence owner.

If you're referring specifically to the use of dangerous drugs, than it's open to debate, but a case could be made for yes.
If you're referring specifically to the use of illegal drugs, then obviously not.

weisses

punisher5112 wrote: »

Would you class them as junkies

Depends on the amount consumed and dependency on the alcohol

Hotblack Desiato

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's people who are anti-drugs, but who drink alcohol and swear blind that "it's not really a drug" that gets me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkA_BdFqfM

punisher5112

weisses wrote: »

Depends on the amount consumed and dependency on the alcohol

But then they would be called alcoholic!

punisher5112

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

How are defining 'junkie'? I ask because every time someone uses the word the seem to mean during different.

If a drug user, then yes.
If a drug pusher, then no. That's more the bar/off-licence owner.

If you're referring specifically to the use of dangerous drugs, than it's open to debate, but a case could be made for yes.
If you're referring specifically to the use of illegal drugs, then obviously not.

Junkies or drug addicts tend to be those you see strung out after getting their fix of crack, benzo, opioid such as heroin and even prescription meds with these in them....
Coke is widely used and anyone that uses it really needs help, as do they all....

I've seen them injecting on the bus, train and on the streets, trousers down, into the penis, into their eye balls with the help of another and a torch.....


It's very very sad to see anyone turn out like them and how their lives are destroyed and family and friends and society as a whole too.

Lyan

Everyone I've known who smokes weed on a regular basis has been a complete waster with no direction in life.

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

Junkies or drug addicts tend to be those you see strung out after getting their fix of crack, benzo, opioid such as heroin and even prescription meds with these in them....
Coke is widely used and anyone that uses it really needs help, as do they all....

I've seen them injecting on the bus, train and on the streets, trousers down, into the penis, into their eye balls with the help of another and a torch.....


It's very very sad to see anyone turn out like them and how their lives are destroyed and family and friends and society as a whole too.

In all the years I've been working in drug services and homeless services , I've never heard of an addict injecting into his eyeball even with assistance, ever.

Injecting into the penis is extremely rare , it along with the groin, neck and armpits are high risk area.

I've worked in needle exchanges and would very familiar with IV drug use , including risks associated, different types of needles, barrels , paraphernalia along with recognising damage to veins and tissue associated with drug use.

I'd be on first name terms too with a lot of the individuals you call junkies in Dublin city centre.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

punisher5112 wrote: »

Junkies or drug addicts tend to be those you see strung out after getting their fix of crack, benzo, opioid such as heroin and even prescription meds with these in them....
Coke is widely used and anyone that uses it really needs help, as do they all....

I've seen them injecting on the bus, train and on the streets, trousers down, into the penis, into their eye balls with the help of another and a torch.....


It's very very sad to see anyone turn out like them and how their lives are destroyed and family and friends and society as a whole too.

Not sure where you're getting your info on regarding the the paragraph...?

Anyway, if a junkie is someone who consumes a drug openly and then proceeds to display the effects in publuc, then yes - some drinkers are definitely junkies. It being legal or socially-acceptable makes no difference.

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

In all the years I've been working in drug services and homeless services , I've never heard of an addict injecting into his eyeball even with assistance, ever.

Injecting into the penis is extremely rare , it along with the groin, neck and armpits are high risk area.

I've worked in needle exchanges and would very familiar with IV drug use , including risks associated, different types of needles, barrels , paraphernalia along with recognising damage to veins and tissue associated with drug use.

I'd be on first name terms too with a lot of the individuals you call junkies in Dublin city centre.

So I'm a liar am I....

I kid you not they were right outside the city canteen we use. The guy was injecting into the white of the eye.

I clearly seen the needle and he was using a tiny LED torch.... I was wretching when I seen what they were at...

Oh and before you think I'm one of those that has no respect for others you couldn't be more wrong as there are some that are actually ok to have a chat with but I also come across many that absolutely hate me or the uniform....

I've said it's sad and horrible to see such drugs ruin lives...

punisher5112

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Not sure where you're getting your info on regarding the the paragraph...?

Anyway, if a junkie is someone who consumes a drug openly and then proceeds to display the effects in publuc, then yes - some drinkers are definitely junkies. It being legal or socially-acceptable makes no difference.

What paragraph.....

If that's a smart dig at my spacing I do so to make it easier to read....on my phone and couldn't be bothered following what I was taught in English class.. such a rebel that makes me

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

So I'm a liar am I....

I kid you not they were right outside the city canteen we use. The guy was injecting into the white of the eye.

I clearly seen the needle and he was using a tiny LED torch.... I was wretching when I seen what they were at...

A spoofer might be more apt .

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

A spoofer might be more apt .

Far from it hun

Wife works in health care as do two sisters and have friends in it too....

One dealt specifically with drug addicts.

She had no issues believing what I said as I had no reason to lie. After seeing it I really wish I hadn't.

One eyed Jack

mr_fegelien wrote: »

There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance. I mean everyone is ignorant about some things but willfully talking **** like comparing weed to heroin when you don't have any experience with them makes me lose respect in your eyes.

I think you have that arseways mate - makes you lose respect for them in your eyes, no?

Anyway, no point in trying to have a rational conversation about anything with a space cadet, never mind trying to have a rational conversation about drugs and why it’s hardly a compelling argument to make the point that alcohol is a drug. So is love, according to some people.

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

Far from it hun

Wife works in health care as do two sisters and have friends in it too....

One dealt specifically with drug addicts.

She had no issues believing what I said as I had no reason to lie. After seeing it I really wish I hadn't.

Depending on where the addict is injecting and his anatomy, he has a choice of needle based on its gauge , the collar on the needle is coloured for safety and recognition, so an addict injecting in his groin will select a bigger guage needle than an addict injecting in his hand .

Before an injects he clean the injection site with an alcohol swab and preps his heroin using distilled water and citric acid, heats and draws up through a filter.

Tell me about the needle and vein in the eyeball because as far as I know it's not possible to inject into a vein in the eye.

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

Depending on where the addict is injecting and his anatomy, he has a choice of needle based on its gauge , the collar on the needle is coloured for safety and recognition, so an addict injecting in his groin will select a bigger guage needle than an addict injecting in his hand .

Before an injects he clean the injection site with an alcohol swab and preps his heroin using distilled water and citric acid, heats and draws up through a filter.

Tell me about the needle and vein in the eyeball because as far as I know it's not possible to inject into a vein in the eye.

I'm just telling you what I seen with my own two eyes....
No need to be such a dick about it, I'm not saying in any way I'm educated on drug use but if I see something I'm not exaggerating about it....

One eyed Jack

corner of hells wrote: »

Tell me about the needle and vein in the eyeball because as far as I know it's not possible to inject into a vein in the eye.

Wouldn’t be injecting into the eye as such, rather the soft tissue around the eye. Not looking for a vein when it gets to that stage, just the fastest way to get off their skulls.

corner of hells

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Wouldn’t be injecting into the eye as such, rather the soft tissue around the eye. Not looking for a vein when it gets to that stage, just the fastest way to get off their skulls.

Yeah , definitely heard of addicts injecting in around the orbit of the eye .Very rarely.

corner of hells

punisher5112 wrote: »

I'm just telling you what I seen with my own two eyes....
No need to be such a dick about it, I'm not saying in any way I'm educated on drug use but if I see something I'm not exaggerating about it....

Sorry hun.

SEPT 23 1989

punisher5112

corner of hells wrote: »

Sorry hun.

Major malfunction son... Used that one already...

Lyan

Lyan wrote: »

Everyone I've known who smokes weed on a regular basis has been a complete waster with no direction in life.

Few of the lads in work,go through spells of smoking up

The difference in work ethic from when they smoking regularly to not is massive,they literally do nothing some days and you'd be fcuked trying to cover for em

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

punisher5112 wrote: »

What paragraph.....

If that's a smart dig at my spacing I do so to make it easier to read....on my phone and couldn't be bothered following what I was taught in English class.. such a rebel that makes me

My apologies, should have read "the third paragraph". Another poster has also picked up on it I see.

Rest of my post stands.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I think you have that arseways mate - makes you lose respect for them in your eyes, no?

Anyway, no point in trying to have a rational conversation about anything with a space cadet, never mind trying to have a rational conversation about drugs and why it’s hardly a compelling argument to make the point that alcohol is a drug. So is love, according to some people.

Ah, but no one is saying people who are in love are wasting their lives!

punisher5112

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

My apologies, should have read "the third paragraph". Another poster has also picked up on it I see.

Rest of my post stands.

Picked up on what

One eyed Jack

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Ah, but no one is saying people who are in love are wasting their lives!

Just like nobody is saying alcohol is a drug, only the space cadets who are wasting their lives on drugs and bemoan the fact that nobody wants to have a rational conversation with them about their drug use.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Just like nobody is saying alcohol is a drug

Well, they should be, because it is.

only the space cadets who are wasting their lives on drugs and bemoan the fact that nobody wants to have a rational conversation with them about their drug use.

Take that one up with the OP.

I tend to have rational discussions with rational people on the topic. If they start getting preachy, I start talking about God.

One eyed Jack

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well, they should be, because it is.

Take that one up with the OP.

I tend to have rational discussions with rational people on the topic. If they start getting preachy, I start talking about God.

I did take it up with the OP. You chose to respond to my post, but when your idea of rational discussion amounts to “well they should be, because it is”, that’s the very definition of preachy, as opposed to rational discussion.

That appears to be the source of the OP’s frustration too - nobody wants to have a discussion with him on his terms.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I did take it up with the OP. You chose to respond to my post, but when your idea of rational discussion amounts to “well they should be, because it is”, that’s the very definition of preachy, as opposed to rational discussion.

That appears to be the source of the OP’s frustration too - nobody wants to have a discussion with him on his terms.

Alcohol is, by denfinition, a drug. It induces a physiological effect when ingested, take it or leave it. That was the only part of your post I refered to.