Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

Psychlops

Was listening to the UPARS podcast on Skinwalker Ranch with George Knapp & Irish Dr Colm Kelleher, they described different types of UFO's at the ranch from RV types to Black Triangles to actual Aliens that were as see thru as the Alien in Predator as if they had a cloaking device on.

What an interesting place.

barbara anne

Nope. They would have contacted us by now.

100%. It's wishful thinking.

Steve012

barbara anne wrote: »

Nope. They would have contacted us by now.

100%. It's wishful thinking.

Who says they Haven't?

barbara anne

Steve012 wrote: »

Who says they Haven't?

Oh great. You're obviously one of those who got 'probed' in his sleep.

Steve012

barbara anne wrote: »

Nope. They would have contacted us by now.

100%. It's wishful thinking.

The truth of really what's going on, is very difficult for us Homo Saipan's to be able to conceive.

I'll leave it there, but a lot of people who clicked on to this thread know what I mean.

Steve012

barbara anne wrote: »

Oh great. You're obviously one of those who got 'probed' in his sleep.

Wah gwan "I'm obviously" ���� very poor generalizations

Go back to Schoollllll

barbara anne

Steve012 wrote: »

Wah gwan "I'm obviously" ���� very poor generalizations

Go back to Schoollllll

Oh god no and deal with all those angsty teenagers?

barbara anne

Do they do aliens in school these days? Oh my. Wasting poor kids time.

Rodin

barbara anne wrote: »

Nope. They would have contacted us by now.

100%. It's wishful thinking.

Maybe they're saying the same about us.

barbara anne

Rodin wrote: »

Maybe they're saying the same about us.

No. They dont exist 100%. Trust me. I've lived.

EmmetSpiceland

steddyeddy wrote: »

The universe is too big for there not to be intelligent life elsewhere IMHO.

This is it but, again, it’s this size, and distance, that makes the idea of any alien life making “appearances” in our skies, pretty much, impossible to give credence to.

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EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

This is it but, again, it’s this size, and distance, that makes the idea of any alien life making “appearances” in our skies, pretty much, impossible to give credence to.

Yeah, but It's a God-awful small affair.

Steve012

barbara anne wrote: »

No. They dont exist 100%. Trust me. I've lived.

Your are a joking yeah ?

barbara anne

Steve012 wrote: »

Your are a joking yeah ?

No I'm not joking. I know they don't exist. 100%.

What is it with these online people think they know everything.

Steve012

barbara anne wrote: »

No I'm not joking. I know they don't exist. 100%.

What is it with these online people think they know everything.

Ok, nobody knows everything, it's impossible, like the workings of the universe or other intelligent life may be out there.

To be 100% dismissive, is one hell of a closed mind.

The longer you leave your mind aware and open to possibilities your belief system can't fathom.

You might learn a few things, especially about life in general, since your understanding seems to be well below average.

Wedwood

The mathematics suggest our universe is teaming with life, including technologically advanced civilisations.

Theory also suggests that most of these civilisations eventually destroy themselves (eg nuclear/environmental disaster), so the window of opportunity to make contact is relatively small. We’ve been actively searching for barely 50 years with limited technology in a galaxy billions of years old.

In relation to UFOs, there’s also the theory that governments are gradually conditioning the public for the announcement such as releasing those US Air Force videos etc, or Governments are refusing to confirm for fear of the shock society would go into.

It’s been said before, there are only two possibilities, we are either alone in the universe or we are not, both scenarios are equally terrifying !!

iagreebut

Only government has the answers to this question.
And they have all the fundamental answers.
Not the layman or the person who said they saw credible evidence, they're not qualified or have the intelligence to back up their claims.

Science is the only answer to everything and until someone who's qualified is able to prove this then we can believe it if the right evidence is produced.

It's like having a handyman do electrical work, you and he is not insured due to health and safety and that's that.

I find it interesting UFOs and the paranormal, but unless science says it's real, it's real.

Science say's no to UFOs.

iagreebut

Steve012 wrote: »

Ok, nobody knows everything, it's impossible, like the workings of the universe or other intelligent life may be out there.

To be 100% dismissive, is one hell of a closed mind.

The longer you leave your mind aware and open to possibilities your belief system can't fathom.

You might learn a few things, especially about life in general, since your understanding seems to be well below average.

A scientist once said to me if I opened my mind too much my brains could fall out.

He's right because he's a scientist, science is the answer to everything.
He knows more than I do because he's educated in the field of science.

Steve012

iagreebut wrote: »

A scientist once said to me if I opened my mind too much my brains could fall out.

He's right because he's a scientist, science is the answer to everything.
He knows more than I do because he's educated in the field of science.

It's a measure of different type's of intelligence, not just one, like scientific intelligence, psychic's remote viewers, will say a different story,

Lots of answers in spiritual intelligence

and the scientists didn't say that to ya, that's an old saying man ��

FutureGuy

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Ditto.

Wonder when we'll get to Mars?

Elon Musk reckons 5 years

jmlad2020

barbara anne wrote: »

No. They dont exist 100%. Trust me. I've lived.

Oh you poor thing. You probably haven't lived at all. Maybe only in a small box your whole life. So dismissive of the unknown. So sure of the unsure. Try a few psychedelic mushrooms, read a non-fiction book, broaden your mind.

I doubt you have even looked up to the stars and pondered the age old question and the rabbit hole that it takes you down. Watching Fair City is a distraction from life darling.

Steve012

jmlad2020 wrote: »

Oh you poor thing. You probably haven't lived at all. Maybe only in a small box your whole life. So dismissive of the unknown. So sure of the unsure. Try a few psychedelic mushrooms, read a non-fiction broaden your mind.

I doubt you have even looked up to the stars and pondered the age old question and the rabbit hole that it takes you down. Watching Fair City is a distraction from life darling.

I think she's a wind up merchant man tbh!

What an approach to life if she was being for real 🤣😂😂

New Home

Mod: Folks, back to the UFO discussion, less of the jibing, please.

iagreebut

Steve012 wrote: »

It's a measure of different type's of intelligence, not just one, like scientific intelligence, psychic's remote viewers, will say a different story,

Lots of answers in spiritual intelligence

and the scientists didn't say that to ya, that's an old saying man ��

Spirituality and pseudoscience is wrong,it's all just new age stuff.

There's no point in trying to tell a scientist that there's a spiritual realm or that there's anything outside of our senses.
I know you mean well, but there's no way that spiritual concepts and UFOs are similar.

I should know, intelligent people have smashed that illusion of dilusional thinking from me.
Science is the only way forward for me that is.

All the rest I'm told isn't reality.

Denny61

Our earth is so small and insignificant in the great scheme of things that any advanced life out there would not be bothered with us or more importantly not be able to detect us. As our signal output would not be strong enough to be detected..its a far more advanced civilisation that can generate signals millions times stronger that can be paid a visit from ET and his relatives. So folks we will have to live with the premise that we are isolated and unless a miracle of a chance that they find us by pure chance. We live without hope

jmlad2020

barbara anne wrote: »

Mod: Post deleted.

There should be a cute cat meme thread somewhere on Boards for you to move on to. The level of discussion on this topic is obviously too much for you to fathom or bring any constructive input to.

I Hope you enjoyed Fair City tonight.

the purple tin

Some people get very emotional, even quite angry at the suggestion that there could be a more advanced lifeform than us.
We are used to thinking of ourselves for centuries as the centre of the universe, made in God's image and so on, the pinnacle of creation.

If it ever officially comes out that we are not alone in the universe, then we have to face facts; we are really just a big fish in a small pond.
There are people who cannot/will not accept that.

jmlad2020

Denny61 wrote: »

Our earth is so small and insignificant in the great scheme of things that any advanced life out there would not be bothered with us or more importantly not be able to detect us. As our signal output would not be strong enough to be detected..its a far more advanced civilisation that can generate signals millions times stronger that can be paid a visit from ET and his relatives. So folks we will have to live with the premise that we are isolated and unless a miracle of a chance that they find us by pure chance. We live without hope

That assumes they don't already know we are here.

The Summerians, who are known for having extremely accurate knowledge of astronomy in their ancient scriptures (they knew of the existence of each planet in our solar system and mapped them 6000 years ago) believed we were seeded by the Annunaki, a race of extra terrestrial visitors who came from the skies.

https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/03/01/zecharia-sitchin-and-our-alien-anecestors/comment-page-1/

Denny61

jmlad2020 wrote: »

That assumes they don't already know we are here.

The Summerians, who are known for having extremely accurate knowledge of astronomy in their ancient scriptures (they knew of the existence of each planet in our solar system and mapped them 6000 years ago) believed we were seeded by the Annunaki, a race of extra terrestrial visitors who came from the skies.

https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/03/01/zecharia-sitchin-and-our-alien-anecestors/comment-page-1/

Heard they were on the wacky backy a lot and known for telling great bed time stories....ah yes the summerains

Steve012

iagreebut wrote: »

Spirituality and pseudoscience is wrong,it's all just new age stuff.

There's no point in trying to tell a scientist that there's a spiritual realm or that there's anything outside of our senses.
I know you mean well, but there's no way that spiritual concepts and UFOs are similar.

I should know, intelligent people have smashed that illusion of dilusional thinking from me.
Science is the only way forward for me that is.

All the rest I'm told isn't reality.

We have No Idea what reality is tho.

How different is an insects reality different to a dogs? which one is conscious?

How about humans, how different is the reality of a native American tribes man, to a young London banker?!?

Steve012

jmlad2020 wrote: »

That assumes they don't already know we are here.

The Summerians, who are known for having extremely accurate knowledge of astronomy in their ancient scriptures (they knew of the existence of each planet in our solar system and mapped them 6000 years ago) believed we were seeded by the Annunaki, a race of extra terrestrial visitors who came from the skies.

https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/03/01/zecharia-sitchin-and-our-alien-anecestors/comment-page-1/

Could be elements of truth, plus 300.000 year old gold mines in South Africa (proven) Scientifically

silliussoddius

jmlad2020 wrote: »

That assumes they don't already know we are here.

The Summerians, who are known for having extremely accurate knowledge of astronomy in their ancient scriptures (they knew of the existence of each planet in our solar system and mapped them 6000 years ago) believed we were seeded by the Annunaki, a race of extra terrestrial visitors who came from the skies.

https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2019/03/01/zecharia-sitchin-and-our-alien-anecestors/comment-page-1/

Now we are into Ancient Aliens territory. Anything goes. Maybe throw in some Nephilim while you're at it.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/damn-those-lying-ancient-texts

jmlad2020

silliussoddius wrote: »

Now we are into Ancient Aliens territory. Anything goes. Maybe throw in some Nephilim while you're at it.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/damn-those-lying-ancient-texts

And the Tuatha de danann

silliussoddius

jmlad2020 wrote: »

And the Tuatha de danann

Definitely, and the Peoples Front of Judea.

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No.
The Judean Peoples' Front.
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silliussoddius

Splitter

Yurt2

I'm with this guy...

Wedwood

Stephen Hawking was once asked his views on what was likely to happen if we encountered alien life. He referred to examples in nature where there’s usually a single dominant species and following that logic suggests a more advanced technological species with the capability of interstellar travel would likely conquer humanity to exploit the Earth’s resources.

Hawking suggested we’d be better served not trying to draw attention to ourselves !!!

EmmetSpiceland

Wedwood wrote: »

...logic suggests a more advanced technological species with the capability of interstellar travel would likely conquer humanity to exploit the Earth’s resources.

But what “resources”? There is nothing here that can’t be found, in abundance, floating around in space.

They’re hardly going to need human blood, or fossil fuels, to power their “hyper drives”.

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iagreebut

Steve012 wrote: »

We have No Idea what reality is tho.

How different is an insects reality different to a dogs? which one is conscious?

How about humans, how different is the reality of a native American tribes man, to a young London banker?!?

A young London banker has great potential in the real world, he's working hard and is an achiever.

A native American tribesman, sure is well able to track hunt and has great stories and wisdom.
But unlike the London banker he'll never have a full time job, helping the economy and building businesses and giving people financial security and assistance.
At the end of his working life he'll be able to retire from his well earned honest work, and go fishing, hiking and holiday anywhere he likes.
He'll be wealthy and successful and that's what life is all about, working hard for wealthy cooperation's and keeping the financial cogs spinning.
We should all be like that London banker you mentioned.

As for insects and dog's, they're pets and in some cases pests.
The insects are preprogrammed by their DNA and are part of biodiversity.
Dogs are obviously more clever and cute.
Bringing joy, entertainment ie greyhound racing, love and guardian ship to people all over the world.

As for UFOs we need scientific proof of their existence, I know you have an interest in the possibility of UFO's but unfortunately we have no proper evidence, until then the jury is out.

If we had an encounter I think an advanced peaceful race who'll be like Dr Spock would be great.
But imagine an insect like plague of killer's swarming in on top of us, now that would be scary.
Or using us as biofuel for their own interests.

It's a scary thought.

If we sort out our own injustices and bring peace to earth that would be a good start, and develop a weapon that would protect us all from an invasion, rather than development of weapons to use to wipe each other off the planet.
Then we could go looking for other civilisations.

It's an intriguing subject UFOS

Wedwood

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

But what “resources”? There is nothing here that can’t be found, in abundance, floating around in space.

They’re hardly going to need human blood, or fossil fuels, to power their “hyper drives”.

Well, it might be as simple as colonisation of the planet at our expense !!

Anyway, the way our species is destroying the environment, maybe the aliens will see invading as the only way to save the planet !!!!

steddyeddy

COVID wrote: »

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If they get one before I do there'll be trouble.....

maccored

iagreebut wrote: »

Spirituality and pseudoscience is wrong,it's all just new age stuff.

There's no point in trying to tell a scientist that there's a spiritual realm or that there's anything outside of our senses.
I know you mean well, but there's no way that spiritual concepts and UFOs are similar.

I should know, intelligent people have smashed that illusion of dilusional thinking from me.
Science is the only way forward for me that is.

All the rest I'm told isn't reality.

funnily enough, my brother was (now retired) a research scientist looking at the brain and learning difficulties. I asked him about consciousness and our understanding of it and he tells me that science to this day still discusses and argues over what consciousness is. He was, in fact, involved in a meeting of many scientists on the subject at Cambridge and said that after a full days tooing and fro-ing, they were no nearer an answer. he said it was a really interesting conversation but theres no definitive answer as yet.

If that applies to something we all know exists (as we all have one), then you cant dismiss ideas like spirituality, the soul etc etc.

If science is the only way forward to you then you should start to think like a scientist and be able to discuss and learn. Science NEVER makes its mind up as we are always learning new things about ourselves and the environment - so as a follower of science, you shouldnt have made your mind up so easily.

Maybe you just misunderstand what science is all about? You wouldnt be the only one.

flanna01

Too much is being read into flying saucers..

I wonder, do most people appreciate the mind boggling distances involved for a Captain Kirk wannabe needs, to visit the lawn of the Whitehouse?

Interstellar Space is so vast it cannot be measured in miles, shillings or pence...

The best method we have at the moment is light years - Which as it says on the tin, is how far light can travel in a year,

Let me clear that statement up a bit... Light travels at around 86,000 miles PER SECOND!! that's 5,160,000 miles PER MINUTE!

So, the latest science update, is the nearest Earth like Planet is around 12 Light Years away... That's G'Zillions and G'Zillions on miles away, so far in fact, that our brains cannot really fathom the distance involved.

So, based on the above... Will young Johnny Stardust from the planet Blob, really undertake such a journey to see what all the noise is about on planet Earth..???

Would you jump in your car in Cork and drive to Belfast to see an ant hill from 10 feet away, and then turn around and speed off home again...??

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Yeah but..deflect, deflect..science an all...don't close your mind...there has to be something out there...saw a strange-looking object in the sky when I was seven years old, stuck with me ever since. etc

Remember :Science NEVER makes its mind up, so the earth might well be flat, and 2+2 might equal 9 at some time in the future *cough*..who knows, maybe the sun revolves around the Earth 'cause

....Science NEVER makes its mind up

I knew a pilot (and they never fib)....

flanna01

Who has a closed mind??

I have absolutely no doubt there is other life out there in the vastness of Space..

I'd go as far as to speculate that there is microbial infested slime on most planets orbiting a Star.

Intelligent life (as we define it), maybe a different pot of tea all together??

Look at the dominant races in history... The Aztec's, The Egyptians, The Roman Empire, to name but a few, what have they all got in common?? They all died out, no matter how big or how advanced they were.

Mankind is destined to become extinct. Maybe it's a well trodden path throughout the Universe? There have been 5 mass extinctions already that we know about on this Planet, is it practical to expect to keep dodging the bullets??

The Universe has been around for over 13 billion years that we know of ..... (Like, what was there before then is anybody's guess??) Nobody has left any signal that we can locate, or sent a message to say we are not alone.... Why not???

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/UFOS_EXPOSED/status/1363493057790955524

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BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/UFOS_EXPOSED/status/1363493057790955524

Great footage.

Clear as crystal and 100% proof that flying saucers exist.

Plus, as a fluent Portuguese speaker, I can tell you now the commentator is announcing the end of the world as we know it!

fryup

100% proof that people are good at video editing, there's plenty of software out there that can manipulate that footage