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George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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    #3422
    standardg60
    Registered Users Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭standardg60


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    He was talking throughout the video. If you can’t breath you cannot talk.

    Ok so we both know that that statement is completely false.
    Please come up with a better answer.


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    #3423
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,244 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    nullzero wrote: »
    So rioting in multiple cities isn't a national emergency?

    Hilariously the people who were shouting tyranny from the rooftops a few weeks ago over stay at home orders are now demanding US citizens are gunned down by the authorities in the streets and oppressive martial law and national emergencies are declared.


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    #3424
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Video evidence means absolutely nothing if a qualified medical professional can show that his arteries were clogged up and/or he was under the influence. Proving that the cops action was the precipitating factor in his death will be extremely difficult. Courts work off facts, not feelings.

    This has been outlined to you by another poster.

    And not to be smart, but you should clue yourself in how prosecutions and jury trials work.

    A jury of peers will decide this man's fate, not medical professionals, and you can be damn sure the prosecutors will be pursuing the murder charge in so far as they can and not accepting plea bargains in this case. When the jury room door is locked, he will be at the mercy of the 12.

    Facts not feelings as you say.


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    #3425
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    nullzero wrote: »
    So rioting in multiple cities isn't a national emergency?
    Yes it is.
    But the rioting is emotive, spontaneous and disorganized.
    It's not some sort of planned, professional, coordinated event.


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    #3426
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    He was talking throughout the video. If you can’t breath you cannot talk.
    If you like we can arrange for a real live test where someone kneels on your neck for a bit. Nothing like bringing personal experience to the table.


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    #3427
    BeakerTurtle69
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 ✭BeakerTurtle69


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Video evidence means absolutely nothing if a qualified medical professional can show that his arteries were clogged up and/or he was under the influence. Proving that the cops action was the precipitating factor in his death will be extremely difficult. Courts work off facts, not feelings.

    Edit: an autopsy could also show up an underlying condition that neither the cop nor the dude on the ground knew about.
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    This is the weakest attempt by far to undermine protest.

    ‘It wasnt being kneed to the pavement that killed him it was high blood pressure!’

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    NO.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/


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    #3428
    BeakerTurtle69
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 ✭BeakerTurtle69


    Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Allecia Wilson performed the autopsy and said there was "neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain," according to Crump's statement. They added that "weight on the back, handcuffs and positioning were contributory factors because they impaired the ability of Mr. Floyd’s diaphragm to function."

    Baden and Wilson said it appeared that Floyd died at the scene of the incident.

    "What we found is consistent with what people saw," Baden said. "There is no other health issue that could cause or contribute to the death. Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That’s not true."


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    #3429
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Unless it's a full on strangulation, this wasnt.. you can still talk..

    The POS cop standing, said those exact words.. "if he can talk, he can breathe".

    The standing cop was correct.


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    #3430
    BeakerTurtle69
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 ✭BeakerTurtle69


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The standing cop was correct.

    Outright lies

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/


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    #3431
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    BeakerTurtle69 wrote: »
    Outright lies

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/

    We’ll see after the trial.


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    #3432
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    read it and weep losers. Independent autopsy out and no underlying health conditions Cause of Death was asphyxiation!! Justify that!!! and as I stated 100 pages ago. BUT FOR the knee he would be alive. JUSTIFY THAT


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    #3433
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    it is live streaming so you will soon find out


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    #3434
    joe40
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The standing cop was correct.

    No he isn't.


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    #3435
    sweet_trip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭sweet_trip


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    He was talking throughout the video. If you can’t breath you cannot talk.


    Just admit it, you're racist and enjoy watching police murder black people.


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    #3436
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The standing cop was correct.

    Your definition of breathing along with that POS standing there is different to mine.

    I like to have no pressure being applied to any of my airway for me to breathe. If pressure is applied to one side of my airway I'm thinking I'm being choked, can I still talk? Yes I can.


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    #3437
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We’ll see after the trial.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/george-floyd-family-release-results-autopsy-70994420

    I think we can see right now. Well, most of us anyway.


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    #3438
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,446 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Overheal wrote: »
    At the rate progressives are buying guns and ammo this weekend we may see bipartisanship on reform this century!

    Funny how that works. Almost like the Founding Fathers had some idea what they were doing when they inserted the 2nd Amendment.


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    #3439
    BeakerTurtle69
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 ✭BeakerTurtle69


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We’ll see after the trial.

    Lol no one wants him acquitted. The jury will spit out an instant guilty verdict. You know its true.


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    #3440
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/george-floyd-family-release-results-autopsy-70994420

    I think we can see right now. Well, most of us anyway.

    Oh holy ****!!!!!


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    #3441
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Video evidence means absolutely nothing if a qualified medical professional can show that his arteries were clogged up and/or he was under the influence. Proving that the cops action was the precipitating factor in his death will be extremely difficult. Courts work off facts, not feelings.

    Edit: an autopsy could also show up an underlying condition that neither the cop nor the dude on the ground knew about.


    It's a good thing that an independent autopsy was ordered then, isn't it?


    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1267534290784587781

    EDIT: Hadn't seen the post by Deebles.


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    #3442
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    The protests today in town were incredibly frustrating. People not social distancing or wearing gloves/masks.

    I get the unrest, upside and urge to show support - however, we are going through a terrible crisis at the moment. Many more could die as a result.


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    #3443
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    theballz wrote: »
    The protests today in town were incredibly frustrating. People not social distancing or wearing gloves/masks.

    I get the unrest, upside and urge to show support - however, we are going through a terrible crisis at the moment. Many more could die as a result.
    In all likelihood they won't and being outside is a far lower risk but definitely not the right way to do this at present.


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    #3444
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/george-floyd-family-release-results-autopsy-70994420

    I think we can see right now. Well, most of us anyway.


    I wonder will his lawyer wheel out the Weldoninho defense all the same?





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    #3445
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The standing cop was correct.


    are you a doctor? a medical expert?


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    #3446
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,244 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The standing cop was correct.

    So is that cop, what did your call it earlier.....oh yes, a psychic coroner??


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    #3447
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    https://twitter.com/ZackBornstein/status/1267141940547469312


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    #3448
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Two widely differing reports is probably a bad thing here..

    Much better if both were closer together.

    The attorney for the family calling for a bump in charge to 1st degree murder (imo it was).


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    #3449
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    if you are interested in the live stream of the independent autopsy results https://www.facebook.com/bencrumplaw/videos/342911463355346


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    #3450
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    ElmoLaw wrote: »
    read it and weep losers. Independent autopsy out and no underlying health conditions Cause of Death was asphyxiation!! Justify that!!! and as I stated 100 pages ago. BUT FOR the knee he would be alive. JUSTIFY THAT

    Independent autopsy isn’t a court of law. That’s where all the evidence will be produced and we will get answers.


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    #3451
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Two widely differing reports is probably a bad thing here..

    Much better if both were closer together.

    The attorney for the family calling for a bump in charge to 1st degree murder (imo it was).




    good point. wierd that both are so different. 1st report was a sham IMO and tried to tell us what we saw with our own eyes wasnt true.


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