George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

Foxtrol

punisher5112 wrote: »

Has anyone seen how quickly a criminal can get a shot off, they may well look unarmed but that vid won't play so I can't comment on it.

Police have been murdered too and of course civilian have and unarmed too but then you see they reached for officers gun or tried to kill them some way

The excuse they gave was one of the other officers was hit with a rock beforehand. Again, rather than regrouping and deescalating he does the opposite and goes commando before one of the other cops that didn't lose their mind leads him away.

Tell me how

punisher5112 wrote: »

BLM is an absolute disgrace and the most racist group even more so then the kkk

You are saying that people who are protesting publicly with a collective message are more racist than a group in which members wore hoods and lynched people.

Can you post a shred of a cohesive thought to support this view or better still, a link from an objective source.

mouldybiscuits

punisher5112 wrote: »

BLM is an absolute disgrace and the most racist group even more so then the kkk

It does feel like they are trying to create a divide between black people and other skin colours. It shouldn't be thought of as racist to say all lives matter. In the past the civil rights movement focused on the fact that we are all the same but now the modern civil rights movement is trying to make it like we are different again. I don't think civil rights leaders of the past would look too favourably on this movement.

statesaver

This woman is talking sense

https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1268062728054177793





Right at the end some white guy shouts ' shame on you ' to a black women telling her story. White liberals are the real racists. Malcolm X knew this.

walshb

statesaver wrote: »

This woman is talking sense

https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1268062728054177793

Yes..

And hammers home what I have always felt; white people and their being offended on behalf of black people. Virtue signalling attention seekers.

Their phony concern for black people is nothing but insulting to black people.

2u2me

tigger123 wrote: »

Its something an 8 year old would say.

Or a modern-day late night 'comedian'.

El Horseboxo

Muahahaha wrote: »

9 months sounds like absolutely nothing given it is two years for Gardai to train here and the American cops have to get weapons training which Gardai do not. And 13 weeks to train as a police officer in Alabama? Bit of a joke really to put officers on the streets with so little training. Sounds like a broken system.

It would be common enough to not feel like you've shed the training wheels until you clock up 5 years post probation. As a cop, the learning on the job experience can't be replicated in the classroom. The classroom and training can only take you so far. And you end up in situations way out of your comfort zone as you don't feel experienced enough. But in my view, I don't know how you learn some of the more demanding aspects while in the academy. What you learn in the street is irreplaceable.

The system is broke though. I agree. But it's not just police. It's the entire system and it's a vicious circle. I think the world over, those in poverty are more likely to commit crime. Some of the more impoverished people here in the US are black. But the poverty starts with the institutionalized racism. Black peoples more likely to come from lower income families, from broken families, go to bad district schools, college opportunities suffer due to poorer education, less job opportunities due to all of these points and the often included discrimination factor on top. It's like the legacy racism contributes towards circumstances, circumstances contribute towards crime, the crime creates the perception that it's a black thing and it's accepted as a black thing due to the racism that is still prevalent. Any change needs to start from the very foundation of society. If not, we just go around in circles and a lot of white cops will approach black people with more suspicion and fear.

Even within the academy and among units there is racism and discrimination. Lack of trust from white superiors towards black cops which can breed that house n***a mentality where the black cops come down harder on black people to impress more. Promotions less likely without that. Its just engrained in society over here. As a black guy that has seen both sides, there is definite racism within policing. But there are also a lot of good big hearted cops. I think the majority area. But it's society and the foundations of institutions that allow the racism to exist within them. Don't know how that change is made without starting a very long process from the bottom.

2u2me

punisher5112 wrote: »

BLM is an absolute disgrace and the most racist group even more so then the kkk

Supremacism is bad in all forms. The free pass given to BLM will only bear rotten fruit.

Cupatae

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

It does feel like they are trying to create a divide between black people and other skin colours. It shouldn't be thought of as racist to say all lives matter. In the past the civil rights movement focused on the fact that we are all the same but now the modern civil rights movement is trying to make it like we are different again. I don't think civil rights leaders of the past would look too favourably on this movement.

100% there's definitely a black supremists underbelly to the BLM , but there are so many sheep, they on the regular bash white people and paint them basically as the enemy, and then claim to be against racism?? but you ve all these white people agreeing with them it's a weird weird situation..

All sheep have a stage now, they simply regurgitate what they read on Google not stopping to use their own logic to form opinion they just follow along. With the popular opinion.

At some stage people are gonna have to ask themselves were these riots that have destroyed so many lives and killed and maimed people , were they worth it .. and it's gonna tragic when all this accomplishes nothing but more of a divide

Overheal

punisher5112 wrote: »

BLM is an absolute disgrace and the most racist group even more so then the kkk

This is such a breathtakingly ignorant thing to say I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

nullzero

statesaver wrote: »

This woman is talking sense

https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1268062728054177793





Right at the end some white guy shouts ' shame on you ' to a black women telling her story. White liberals are the real racists. Malcolm X knew this.

This woman deserves her own radio show.

statesaver

2u2me wrote: »

Supremacism is bad in all forms. The free pass given to BLM will only bear rotten fruit.

BLM people will now see that white liberal Antifa types are their real enemy.

I saw a video today of a black woman calling out 2 Antifa type dressed young women who were graffiti a store, she told them to fuk off and stop putting graffiti the store because black people will get the blame for it.

White liberals are the racists we see in the US

1800_Ladladlad

Foxtrol wrote: »

Night and day policing there when you compare it to the US. After the initial flare up they deescalated the situation. Great job.

In the US they would have tear gassed the entire place and caused a stampede.

Im talking about the police and the restraint they showed with beating someone.

Carfacemandog

What the f*** is this about?

News Chopper Pans Out As Riverside County Sheriff Smashes Parked Car Window For No Reason At Peaceful BLM Protest

MeMen2_MoRi_

This was a surprising thing, right throughout the protesting/rioting the press being attacked like they are protestors/rioters..

"While covering these protests in cities throughout the country, journalists have become conspicuous targets for arrest, intimidation, and assault by police officers, even though (or perhaps because) they are clearly identifiable as members of the press.

These apparently deliberate attacks on journalists violate the First Amendment freedom of the press, and they will not go unanswered. The ACLU of Minnesota is filing a class-action lawsuit against Minnesota’s state and local law enforcement officials to ensure that police officers who target journalists are held fully accountable for their unlawful actions."

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/police-are-attacking-journalists-at-protests-were-suing/

ErnestBorgnine

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

They're a group? Who's their leader..

They're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.

Silentcorner

Overheal wrote: »

This is such a breathtakingly ignorant thing to say I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

I don't think it is as ignorant as you seem to think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmKHrWKMQ&t=116s

And it's clear white liberals are really enjoying seeing all these neighbourhoods burned down....

Overheal

Carfacemandog wrote: »

What the f*** is this about?

News Chopper Pans Out As Riverside County Sheriff Smashes Parked Car Window For No Reason At Peaceful BLM Protest

That’s messed up. Cops looting? Totally undermines their cause

MeMen2_MoRi_

ErnestBorgnine wrote: »

They're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.

Is this out of the antifa play book? Smart thinking.

Foxtrol

walshb wrote: »

Yes..

And hammers home what I have always felt; white people and their being offended on behalf of black people. Virtue signalling attention seekers.

Their phony concern for black people is nothing but insulting to black people.

I think the term 'phony concern' says more about how you go about life than anything else

Overheal

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

This was a surprising thing, right throughout the protesting/rioting the press being attacked like they are protestors/rioters..

"While covering these protests in cities throughout the country, journalists have become conspicuous targets for arrest, intimidation, and assault by police officers, even though (or perhaps because) they are clearly identifiable as members of the press.

These apparently deliberate attacks on journalists violate the First Amendment freedom of the press, and they will not go unanswered. The ACLU of Minnesota is filing a class-action lawsuit against Minnesota’s state and local law enforcement officials to ensure that police officers who target journalists are held fully accountable for their unlawful actions."

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/police-are-attacking-journalists-at-protests-were-suing/

Here’s the most messed up part about that: because of their union contracts the state will have to pay the cost of any lawsuit. So, a class action suit will hurt the taxpayers and insulate individual cops from punishment - and therefore, giving a ****.

Silentcorner

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Is this out of the antifa play book? Smart thinking.

There're fooling themselves..they are living in a dictatorship.

joe40

walshb wrote: »

Yes..

And hammers home what I have always felt; white people and their being offended on behalf of black people. Virtue signalling attention seekers.

Their phony concern for black people is nothing but insulting to black people.

You have no idea how the majority of black people think. How can you possibly decide what black people feel.

MeMen2_MoRi_

Overheal wrote: »

Here’s the most messed up part about that: because of their union contracts the state will have to pay the cost of any lawsuit. So, a class action suit will hurt the taxpayers and insulate individual cops from punishment - and therefore, giving a ****.

Would you expect big payouts? Considering the CNN reporter would be in this.

splinter65

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

A court case and a strong sentence. Just because he's been arrested and charged doesn't mean it's over.

Who said it’s over though?

statesaver

joe40 wrote: »

You have no idea how the majority of black people think. How can you possibly decide what black people feel.

You do?

The one thing black people don't need is white people telling them what they should think.

The video i posted shows black people don't need white people like you.

Foxtrol

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

It does feel like they are trying to create a divide between black people and other skin colours. It shouldn't be thought of as racist to say all lives matter. In the past the civil rights movement focused on the fact that we are all the same but now the modern civil rights movement is trying to make it like we are different again. I don't think civil rights leaders of the past would look too favourably on this movement.

When I see a house on fire I ask the fire fighters to not focus on that one house, instead they should share out the water equally so no house is left out :rolleyes:

1800_Ladladlad

Overheal wrote: »

I never claimed he tweeted from the bunker.

He definitely was in the bunker. We agree on this. You’re fighting a straw man

Social media users are circulating a fictitious tweet purportedly from U.S. President Donald Trump, which states that he and Vice President Mike Pence had been escorted to the White House “bunker”

Overheal wrote: »

Trump now says he wasn’t rushed to the WH bunker, he was merely there for an inspection... “2 to 3 times”

What a comedian

That's what you said. You are quick to fact check others but not being fact-checked yourself.

2u2me

Foxtrol wrote: »

When I see a house on fire I ask the fire fighters to not focus on that one house, instead they should share out the water equally so no house is left out :rolleyes:

Its funny that you would make that argument in analogy because then we can't question your facts.

There have been many posts in this thread about people of other races meeting similar fates to Floyd.

I hope it won't be subjective experience time again.

walshb

joe40 wrote: »

You have no idea how the majority of black people think. How can you possibly decide what black people feel.

I can bet how many of them feel...

And they’re not stupid, either.

Black people are people like white and brown and any other colour...

And until this fixation and continuing color narrative is lessened, we’ll get nowhere.