George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

Overheal

Latest is that rioters overran the 3rd precinct department. Police evacuated about 2 hours ago.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-third-precinct-police-station-set-on-fire-after-rioters-break-in

Overheal

In Denver at a George Floyd protest, a driver was caught on video trying to run over protestors with their car.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/driver-runs-over-protester-at-george-floyd-protest-in-denver

snoopboggybog

After watching the 10 minute long video I hope that officer gets killed in prison as painfully as possible.

The other main officer there didn't even check on him and hopefully the same happens to him

Don't agree with the riots but at least it will make a statement.

snoopboggybog

walshb wrote: »

I get this. My point is that to conduct a proper investigation into why the cop did what he did at the end, a complete story is needed...

All we have at present is video footage...

Don’t people want to know why the cop did what he did?

Hey, the answers/reason may not cut it, but we still should want to know..

After reading this whole thread you are really a disgusting and vile human.

The cop did what he did because is a power hungry racist. All he had to do was put his shin across the mans back.

Is their actually something wrong with you?

snoopboggybog

snoopboggybog wrote: »

After watching the 10 minute long video I hope that officer gets killed in prison as painfully as possible.

The other main officer there didn't even check on him and hopefully the same happens to him

Don't agree with the riots but at least it will make a statement.

snoopboggybog wrote: »

After reading this whole thread you are really a disgusting and vile human.

The cop did what he did because is a power hungry racist. All he had to do was put his shin across the mans back.

Is their actually something wrong with you?

I understand emotions getting the better of people but wishing a violent and painful death on people really doesn't put you in a good light.

snoopboggybog

Deleted User wrote: »

I understand emotions getting the better of people but wishing a violent and painful death on people really doesn't put you in a good light.

Yea bit of a contradiction there all-right.

Hopefully justice will be served! I'll leave it at that.

But Walshb was suggesting we shouldn't condemn the officer as we don't know all the facts even though the man was on the ground in handcuffs and previous footage showed him not been a threat and allready in handcuffs and saying he doesn't know if the force was necessary. Come on like.
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Grab All Association

A false mistrust of police officers and a mostly violent culture that actively promotes resisting arrest. I don’t believe the police officers should be charged with anything. If they let their guard down who knows what the suspect could’ve done. Maybe if they stopped resisting arrest in the first place then police wouldn’t have to resort to using excessive force in the first place.

An ex of mine grew up in Minneapolis, the place is an absolute ****hole and if you ever watched the MPD out on patrol on the reality TV show Cops (Fox) you’ll see its not the white people carrying illegal weapons, drugs etc

I’ve been to Miami/pompano beach/Fort Lauderdale and it’s the same thing. Blacks make up the majority of people committing crime and their communities standing by them.

Its starting to happen here too. In Cork City last Christmas near Currys. I seen Gardai trying to arrest a young black man who had committed a crime. He was resisting arrest and shouting hands up don’t shoot at the same time. About 5 other black people verbally abusing and calling the gardai racists at the same time shouting racist abuse towards shïte people.

Grab All Association

Grab All Association wrote: »

A false mistrust of police officers and a mostly violent culture that actively promotes resisting arrest. I don’t believe the police officers should be charged with anything. If they let their guard down who knows what the suspect could’ve done. Maybe if they stopped resisting arrest in the first place then police wouldn’t have to resort to using excessive force in the first place.

An ex of mine grew up in Minneapolis, the place is an absolute ****hole and if you ever watched the MPD out on patrol on the reality TV show Cops (Fox) you’ll see its not the white people carrying illegal weapons, drugs etc

I’ve been to Miami/pompano beach/Fort Lauderdale and it’s the same thing. Blacks make up the majority of people committing crime and their communities standing by them.

Its starting to happen here too. In Cork City last Christmas near Currys. I seen Gardai trying to arrest a young black man who had committed a crime. He was resisting arrest and shouting hands up don’t shoot at the same time. About 5 other black people verbally abusing and calling the gardai racists at the same time shouting racist abuse towards shïte people.

Could you please point out where Mr. Floyd was resisting arrest?

Overheal

"In the final analysis, the riot is the language of the unheard. What is it that America has failed to hear?" - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., 1967

snoopboggybog

Grab All Association wrote: »

A false mistrust of police officers and a mostly violent culture that actively promotes resisting arrest. I don’t believe the police officers should be charged with anything. If they let their guard down who knows what the suspect could’ve done. Maybe if they stopped resisting arrest in the first place then police wouldn’t have to resort to using excessive force in the first place.

An ex of mine grew up in Minneapolis, the place is an absolute ****hole and if you ever watched the MPD out on patrol on the reality TV show Cops (Fox) you’ll see its not the white people carrying illegal weapons, drugs etc

I’ve been to Miami/pompano beach/Fort Lauderdale and it’s the same thing. Blacks make up the majority of people committing crime and their communities standing by them.

Its starting to happen here too. In Cork City last Christmas near Currys. I seen Gardai trying to arrest a young black man who had committed a crime. He was resisting arrest and shouting hands up don’t shoot at the same time. About 5 other black people verbally abusing and calling the gardai racists at the same time shouting racist abuse towards shïte people.

FFS what could he have doing lying face flat on the ground in handcuffs?
Did you acutally watch all the videos? They had the man in handcuffs even before they had him on the ground and was not resisting arrest.

The man was pleading for his life on the ground.

Then The crowd was telling the police officers the man was dead and still wouldn't remove his knee.

His shin across the mans back would have sufficing.

There are too many scumbag cops in the US.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Latest is that rioters overran the 3rd precinct department. Police evacuated about 2 hours ago.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-third-precinct-police-station-set-on-fire-after-rioters-break-in

Police have noone to blame,but emselves here,going about killing people in the open was only ever gonna end,one way


The world and its mother,knows that lad isnt gonna get justice anyway

BluePlanet

Burning and Looting is a rational response to a system that only values capital, and it's loss of.

snoopboggybog

Good post by THE ROCK.

Past few days I’ve been stunned trying make sense of George Floyd’s death.
The video.
The plea for breath.
The callous response.
The racism.
The killing.
This is our ongoing disease.
I’ve had cops in my family.
Good men.
And there’s a cop code, granting you the authority to use force if your life is in danger.
But when a man is handcuffed, on the ground, no longer a threat, with your brothers in arms standing around watching and he struggles to say, “please I can’t breathe” when your knee is on his neck.. not his back, but his neck - cutting off his air.
Cop code must become moral code.
Ethics code.
HUMANITY code.
Knowing that if you don’t ease up, then that man is going to die.
So when you decide to not ease up, your intention is to kill.
And that’s what this was.
George Floyd, said “officer I can’t breathe” as he struggled for air.
He said these words a total of 15 times. Not once. Not twice.
15 times.
These officers will be charged, I’m positive of that.
Held accountable.
But then where’s the greater accountability?
The leadership to healing.
More importantly, the leadership to EQUALITY.
We ultimately win when we can normalize equality.
I’m so sorry to the Floyd family. My heart breaks for you.
Let the process begin now.

peddlelies

Burning and looting is just an excuse for scum to act out. You wouldn't hold the same opinion if you went to open your store in the morning and it was vandalised or burnt down.

Cop should be held accountable and serve serious jail time. Vast majority of cops are good people who put their Iives on the line protecting others.

Overheal

BluePlanet wrote: »

Burning and Looting is a rational response to a system that only values capital, and it's loss of.

George Floyd died for a fake $20 note. That’s what it was all for. That’s how much they thought his life was worth.

Breonna Taylor was about suspected drugs dealing ie. Untaxed profit.

Ahmaud Arbery died because a bunch of burly armed white men were upset about a stolen gun and, I hear, fishing tackle.

But Jared Lee Loughner. Kills 19 people, wounds more. Sends a politician into a coma. Escorted safely into police custody. No roughing up. Dylan Roof kills 9 and injures 1 at a church and they give him Burger King and a bullet proof vest.

Kaepernick took a knee and the apologists said that wasn’t ok, and hey ‘we’re a post-racism society what are you talking about’ etc. :mad:

deise08

https://anewspost.com/george-floyd-worked-security-at-the-same-nightclub-as-the-cop-who-killed-him/?fbclid=IwAR0IHa70i9g8YwQXGViAb1BD2_5jsA3EAmO6Rt9p6-1F7I0-r9l-f9pgRWU

A former club owner has come forward and told local news channel KSTP that the two men worked for her as security guards at El Nuevo Rodeo club on Lake Street in south Minneapolis. The business was sold a few months ago, but club owner Maya Santamaria says that the two men worked together on the same shift back when it was still open.

“Chauvin was our off-duty police for almost the entirety of the 17 years that we were open. They were working together at the same time, it’s just that Chauvin worked outside and the security guards were inside,” Santamaria told KSTP.
However, Santamaria said that she can’t be sure if the pair knew each other, because the club was regularly filled with dozens of security guards and they worked in different parts of the building, with Floyd inside and Chauvin outside. They did work overlapping shifts though, and the probability that the two employees would remain strangers, and then end up ensnared in a murder case is incredibly slim.

Overheal

peddlelies wrote: »

Burning and looting is just an excuse for scum to act out. You wouldn't hold the same opinion if you went to open your store in the morning and it was vandalised or burnt down.

Cop should be held accountable and serve serious jail time. Vast majority of cops are good people who put their Iives on the line protecting others.

Those business owners may want to ask the Police why they didn’t protect their business, why dozens of cops AND national guard needed to be holding their dicks at the killers home and not protecting Main Street?

TheValeyard

BluePlanet wrote: »

Burning and Looting is a rational response to a system that only values capital, and it's loss of.

I disagree. Dont see why buildings get attacked and burned, particularly if they had nothing to do with it. Whatever about the police station, the other places that get burned, that's just going to cost people jobs. And now that police station will have to be rebuilt, which will cost a lot of cash and probably take money away from social spending.

Overheal

deise08 wrote: »

https://anewspost.com/george-floyd-worked-security-at-the-same-nightclub-as-the-cop-who-killed-him/?fbclid=IwAR0IHa70i9g8YwQXGViAb1BD2_5jsA3EAmO6Rt9p6-1F7I0-r9l-f9pgRWU

A former club owner has come forward and told local news channel KSTP that the two men worked for her as security guards at El Nuevo Rodeo club on Lake Street in south Minneapolis. The business was sold a few months ago, but club owner Maya Santamaria says that the two men worked together on the same shift back when it was still open.

“Chauvin was our off-duty police for almost the entirety of the 17 years that we were open. They were working together at the same time, it’s just that Chauvin worked outside and the security guards were inside,” Santamaria told KSTP.
However, Santamaria said that she can’t be sure if the pair knew each other, because the club was regularly filled with dozens of security guards and they worked in different parts of the building, with Floyd inside and Chauvin outside. They did work overlapping shifts though, and the probability that the two employees would remain strangers, and then end up ensnared in a murder case is incredibly slim.

Awfully outrageous news to come from such an obscure source? I’d verify this before believing it.

peddlelies

Overheal wrote: »

Those business owners may want to ask the Police why they didn’t protect their business, why dozens of cops AND national guard needed to be holding their dicks at the killers home and not protecting Main Street?

There's rioting all over the place. Anyone who loots or vandalises innocent businesses is a scumbag

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Awfully outrageous news to come from such an obscure source? I’d verify this before believing it.

Speaking of this it is not out of the M.O. of Russia’s Cyber warfare crowd to push divisive narratives that aren’t necessarily true. This incident is a lightning rod, I’d be suspicious of any news that would appear to be more gasoline for rioters. Regarding developments in the case I wouldn’t trust it until it’s confirmed by the FBI etc. - a divided US is in their interests. Intelligence Reports even as early as the other week still confirm this kind of activity has been going on for years.

Edit: example 2018 reports about Russians stoking race divide

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/12/17/18145075/russia-facebook-twitter-internet-research-agency-race

Sniper69

peddlelies wrote: »

There's rioting all over the place. Anyone who loots or vandalises innocent businesses is a scumbag

Low IQ.

Attacking corporations and shutting down tax bases is the oldest american protest.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

The rioters/looters whatever u want to call them, have leveraged their case effectively. A riot during a time of national crisis is bleeding the government tenfold.

peddlelies

Sniper69 wrote: »

Low IQ.

Attacking corporations and shutting down tax bases is the oldest american protest.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

The rioters/looters whatever u want to call them, have leveraged their case effectively. A riot during a time of national crisis is bleeding the government tenfold.

Low IQ, what kind of insult is that?

If your establishment was burnt down I'm sure the first thing you'd do would be to congradulate the perpetrators.

What percentage of those looting and setting buildings on fire do you think have criminal records?

The anti war protests like Vietnam were social movements which actually created intelligent debate, and had very little to do with scum burning down and stealing items from retail stores.

joe40

No one likes rioting, but it is very understandable in this circumstance. The anger and resentment in that community is justified.
I see Trump tweeting about sending in the army."when the looting starts the shooting starts"
The words of the US president... Talk about inflaming an already tense situation.
He is a danger to the country, it is just all about appealing to his base and fcuk the consequences.

Sniper69

peddlelies wrote: »

Low IQ, what kind of insult is that?

If your establishment was burnt down I'm sure the first thing you'd do would be to congradulate the perpetrators.

What percentage of those looting and setting buildings on fire do you think have criminal records?

The anti war protests like Vietnam were social movements which actually created intelligent debate, and had very little to do with scum stealing items from retail stores.

That doesnt matter. The protestors are hurting the government right where it hurts. There is no ‘intelligent debate’ to be had when a man is publicly executed and no one is arrested.

‘Intelligent debate’ is a low IQ argument. There has been
‘Intelligent debate’ for decades now and no legislation for police accountability has passed.

The ‘Intelligent debate’ right now is to force the government for accountability. The government knows if there is no murder charge or chauvin is given acquittal that more tax bases will shut down.

The ‘Intelligent debate’ of 1773 was to loot British corporations.

The ‘intelligent debate’ of 2020 is to loot US corporations.

This is the only direct action for legislative change. Even the public execution of Chauvin wont be enough. There has to be lasting change.

Overheal

peddlelies wrote: »

Low IQ, what kind of insult is that?

If your establishment was burnt down I'm sure the first thing you'd do would be to congradulate the perpetrators.

What percentage of those looting and setting buildings on fire do you think have criminal records?

The anti war protests like Vietnam were social movements which actually created intelligent debate, and had very little to do with scum burning down and stealing items from retail stores.

Vietnam was about foreign policy not social upheaval. It still involved riots.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-07-12/detroit-in-1967-looting-burning-and-guerrilla-war

https://yesterday.uktv.co.uk/history/article/1968-riots/

Sniper69

Sniper69 wrote: »

That doesnt matter. The protestors are hurting the government right where it hurts. There is no ‘intelligent debate’ to be had when a man is publicly executed and no one is arrested.

‘Intelligent debate’ is a low IQ argument. There has been
‘Intelligent debate’ for decades now and no legislation for police accountability has passed.

The ‘Intelligent debate’ right now is to force the government for accountability. The government knows if there is no murder charge or chauvin is given acquittal that more tax bases will shut down.

The ‘Intelligent debate’ of 1773 was to loot British corporations.

The ‘intelligent debate’ of 2020 is to loot US corporations.

This is the only direct action for legislative change. Even the public execution of Chauvin wont be enough. There has to be lasting change.

I just want to make sure I'm reading you right...

Are you saying that looting innocent businesses is intelligent debate and an appropriate response to horrific actions carried out by some extremely bad police officers?

Tokyo

Mod: @snoopboggybog - don't post in the thread again.

JustAThought

CNN has a live feed at the moment on the looting and destruction of property and to
my horror they are showing the/a police station with police and workers inside it and on the roof while a massive mob is outside who are throwing rocks and cement blocks at the windows and have set it on fire with all the people still in it. Roasting innocent people alive is not an acceptable form of protest. Nor is looting nor burning down family businesses and deatroying homes.

I am sick at what I am seeing.
Nor could I watch the video of the ‘arrest’

This world and some of the subhumans in it can be a horrifying place.

Sniper69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I just want to make sure I'm reading you right...

Are you saying that looting innocent businesses is intelligent debate and an appropriate response to horrific actions carried out by some extremely bad police officers?

The last time for intelligent debate is when a woman was crying out to the police ‘He cant breathe!’

That was it. Theres no more intelligent debate to be had

‘Intelligent debate’ is reductionist and low IQ, we both know this. There has been argument for decades about police brutality. Another 50 years of soft spoken organizations wont change anything.