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George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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    #782
    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Absolutely it is.
    These crowds of scum are not abiding by the law. Shotgun blasts are the only thing they will (be forced to) understand.

    I get it. You’re racist.


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    #783
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    The African American that died was also 'one bad apple'.

    What a disgusting comment


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    #784
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    Yeah if I was black in Minneapolis right now I'd be saying the exact same thing as I as a white man actually would say to my kids in Ireland right now. Dont try and pass on counterfeit money ,and dont break the law if you can avoid it because the consequences cant be guaranteed.

    And if your kid was killed in those circumstances would you shrug your shoulders and say well if he had just left a perfect life this would not have happened.

    Or would you be like a normal person and realise that killing a man in this way bears no relationship to his alleged crime.
    I'm a fairly mild mannered individual but if my son was killed in that manner, I don't know what I would be capable off.

    The anger in that community is understandable and justified.


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    #785
    BASHIR
    Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    I honestly can't get over some of the thoughts on this thread.


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    #786
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,622 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    ELM327 wrote: »
    If I were a business owner in MN I'd be in my business with my legally held firearms and ammo. Those thugs aint getting my property without a fight.
    ELM327 wrote: »
    Absolutely it is.
    These crowds of scum are not abiding by the law. Shotgun blasts are the only thing they will (be forced to) understand.
    Watch out people, we got a badass here!


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    #787
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Cool, another person who thinks shooting people is a valid response to theft.

    Because adding more violence into the situation can only help.

    The violence and chaos is being perpetrated by looters and thugs.

    They are willfully committing anarchy, and seriously endangering the lives of people.

    How do you propose that the authorities (the people) deal with them? Bring them flowers and chocolates and reason with them that way?

    They are on an out of control rampage, that has gone far beyond their caring for George Floyd....

    What would you say if people died here because of these looters....? Died because of them......


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    #788
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    walshb wrote: »
    The violence and chaos is being perpetrated by looters and thugs.

    They are willfully committing anarchy, and seriously endangering the lives of people.

    How do you propose that the authorities (the people) deal with them?

    I propose they do their job and arrest people without killing them for theft.


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    #789
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,989 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    KiKi III wrote: »
    I get it. You’re racist.
    No, I'm not racist, I don't care if these are purple monsters from the planet zog. They are looting, illegally.


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    #790
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Absolutely it is.
    These crowds of scum are not abiding by the law. Shotgun blasts are the only thing they will (be forced to) understand.

    I find it hard to believe you are serious with a comment like that.
    That or too much judge Dredd growing up.


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    #791
    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    walshb wrote: »
    The violence and chaos is being perpetrated by looters and thugs.

    They are willfully committing anarchy, and seriously endangering the lives of people.

    How do you propose that the authorities (the people) deal with them? Bring them flowers and chocolates and reason with them that way?

    They are on an out of control rampage, that has gone far beyond their caring for George Floyd....

    What would you say if people died here because of these looters....? Died because of them......

    Excuse me, the act of violence that started all this was the choking to death of a man in broad daylight.

    Nothing any of the looters have done so far even comes close to that in terms of violence.

    You condemn black people for breaking windows while making allowances for white people killing.

    Yesterday you wanted to know “the full facts” about Floyd’s death and why the policeman felt the need to do it. Where is this curiosity as regards the looters? Why aren’t you as interested in the full facts of why they are doing what they’re doing?

    No, when it comes to them you’re ready to judge here and now.

    Racist.


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    #792
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    I propose they do their job and arrest people without killing them for theft.

    Theft and destruction and looting and whatever else mayhem they are bringing.

    They need to be stopped, and to stop them, firm action needs to be taken. I am not advocating reckless killing here....but the authorities do have the rights to use guns when anarchy is in full flow.

    People will die because of the actions of these people.....


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    #793
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    walshb wrote: »
    The violence and chaos is being perpetrated by looters and thugs.

    They are willfully committing anarchy, and seriously endangering the lives of people.

    How do you propose that the authorities (the people) deal with them? Bring them flowers and chocolates and reason with them that way?

    They are on an out of control rampage, that has gone far beyond their caring for George Floyd....

    What would you say if people died here because of these looters....? Died because of them......

    Deal with the policing problems is the only long term solution. Rioting is a symptom of a larger disease


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    #794
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Overheal wrote: »
    George Floyd died for a fake $20 note. That’s what it was all for. That’s how much they thought his life was worth.

    Breonna Taylor was about suspected drugs dealing ie. Untaxed profit.

    Ahmaud Arbery died because a bunch of burly armed white men were upset about a stolen gun and, I hear, fishing tackle.

    But Jared Lee Loughner. Kills 19 people, wounds more. Sends a politician into a coma. Escorted safely into police custody. No roughing up. Dylan Roof kills 9 and injures 1 at a church and they give him Burger King and a bullet proof vest.

    Kaepernick took a knee and the apologists said that wasn’t ok, and hey ‘we’re a post-racism society what are you talking about’ etc. :mad:

    https://twitter.com/ayeemalik99/status/1265905766390775808


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    #795
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    walshb wrote: »
    Yes

    Can people seriously not protest these days with some decorum, class, education, articulation, poise, measure, restraint, camaraderie?

    Is it just straight to shouting and roaring and looting and rioting and destruction?

    Ask Colin Kaepernick.


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    #797
    osarusan
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    Protests are fine, the looting is really disappointing, if predictable.

    As well as everything else, it takes the focus off the killing itself.


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    #798
    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    walshb wrote: »
    Theft and destruction and looting and whatever else mayhem they are bringing.

    They need to be stopped, and to stop them, firm action needs to be taken. I am not advocating reckless killing here....but the authorities do have the rights to use guns when anarchy is in full flow.

    People will die because of the actions of these people.....

    Someone died already. That’s what started this. Imagine in the early 1900s a member or the Royal Irish Constabulary- the lawful police force here at the time- killed an Irish man in the street for no reason.

    Would Irish people have taken that lying down.

    No, we went to war over it.


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    #799
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Excuse me, the act of violence that started all this was the choking to death of a man in broad daylight.

    Nothing any of the looters have done so far even comes close to that in terms of violence.

    You condemn black people for breaking windows while making allowances for white people killing.

    Yesterday you wanted to know “the full facts” about Floyd’s death and why the policeman felt the need to do it. Where is this curiosity as regards the looters? Why aren’t you as interested in the full facts of why they are doing what they’re doing?

    No, when it comes to them you’re ready to judge here and now.

    Racist.

    And why is it always wanting the full story of the person who was killed? To look for an excuse or justification. How about look into the full story of the grossly violent and overreach of the scumbag cop(s). When you dig there you will often see an ugly history of abuse and overreach. Not only should this cop/those cops be charged, but a full review and investigation of all their prior arrests and dealings should be looked at.


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    #800
    BASHIR
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    osarusan wrote: »
    Protests are fine, the looting is really disappointing, if predictable.

    As well as everything else, it takes the focus off the killing itself.

    It doesn't though


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    #801
    Nermal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Ask Colin Kaepernick.

    Ask him what? As the left are so fond of stating, private companies don't owe you a platform.
    Stateofyou wrote: »
    White people don't need to riot because this brutality isn't happening to them disproportionately.

    Here are the numbers that will let you find where brutality originates. Don't rely on the media.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls


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    #802
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,600 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Someone died already. That’s what started this. Imagine in the early 1900s a member or the Royal Irish Constabulary- the lawful police force here at the time- killed an Irish man in the street for no reason.

    Would Irish people have taken that lying down.

    No, we went to war over it.

    Yes, and we are in the 21st century now, and I'd love to believe that we, as a people and species, have progressed and moved on and become better in all areas....

    That we would have the education and articulation and resources to protest and make change without turning into wild dogs causing mayhem

    But, if these are the standards for others, that we should all turn to looting and robbing and mayhem when we feel some injustice....well, we truly are doomed.


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    #803
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    walshb wrote: »
    Theft and destruction and looting and whatever else mayhem they are bringing.

    They need to be stopped, and to stop them, firm action needs to be taken. I am not advocating reckless killing here....but the authorities do have the rights to use guns when anarchy is in full flow.

    People will die because of the actions of these people.....

    Using live ammunition in a riot never works. It has never worked in any democratic country. We in Ireland know that Better than most.
    I'm not a law enforcement expert but sometimes the best course of action is to let the anger dissipate, then deal with the issues.
    An overly heavy handed approach never works.
    How many times throughout history has this been shown. It just makes the situation worse.
    By the way I don't support the rioting but can totally understand where the anger is coming from


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    #804
    degsie
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    The cops in Minnesota got their asses handed to them, this will empower more protesters and I fear this will spread. Social unrest has been simmering for a long time in the US.


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    #805
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    walshb wrote: »
    On the shooting.

    In law, can persons be shot for looting?

    Can't business owners and the authorities shoot looters?


    Looters in Minneapolis best hope there ain't any Roof Koreans hanging about like in the LA '92 riots. They have their own very particular interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.





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    #806
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Nermal wrote: »
    Ask him what? As the left are so fond of stating, private companies don't owe you a platform.



    Here are the numbers that will let you find where brutality originates. Don't rely on the media.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

    Are you being deliberately thick or what? Colin Kaepernick protested with "some decorum, class, education, articulation, poise, measure, restraint, camaraderie." How did that work out? He was blacklisted from the NFL. He was and is supported by many but also vilified by millions and hated. As for the private companies? Hello, Nike and the advertising agency they use have given him the biggest platform of all.

    https://youtu.be/wyHI3IrJOR8


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    #807
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Are you being deliberately thick or what? Colin Kaepernick protested with "some decorum, class, education, articulation, poise, measure, restraint, camaraderie." How did that work out? He was blacklisted from the NFL. He was and is supported by many but also vilified by millions and hated. As for the private companies? Hello, Nike and the advertising agency they use have given him the biggest platform of all.

    https://youtu.be/wyHI3IrJOR8

    Plenty of people protest peacefully however they are conveniently ignored.


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    #808
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,989 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Are you being deliberately thick or what? Colin Kaepernick protested with "some decorum, class, education, articulation, poise, measure, restraint, camaraderie." How did that work out? He was blacklisted from the NFL. He was and is supported by many but also vilified by millions and hated. As for the private companies? Hello, Nike and the advertising agency they use have given him the biggest platform of all.

    https://youtu.be/wyHI3IrJOR8
    He's a mediocre QB, average in his last playing season when he was benched.
    He wants top 10 money and is not willing to accept backup job.
    This is why he is still out of the league.


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    #809
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    [/QUOTE]Here are the numbers that will let you find where brutality originates. Don't rely on the media.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls[/QUOTE]

    Go ahead and break that down for me, I'll wait.


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    #810
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    ELM327 wrote: »
    He's a mediocre QB, average in his last playing season when he was benched.
    He wants top 10 money and is not willing to accept backup job.
    This is why he is still out of the league.

    Hahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. No.

    Edit to add - regardless of what people's opinions are about his playing and the reason he isn't getting a spot on the team (when he's better than others who got contracts) the POINT is that he took a knee out of peaceful protest against what is happening to black people in the US. Football aside, he was criticised and hated for it by many. It was and is a huge point of controversy. People said it was disrespectful to the US, to the US military, to veterans, to the flag, etc etc. But many others saw it differently, and many military persons and veterans spoke up and said they served for their right and freedom of expression. But ultimately, what has it changed? Nothing.


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    #811
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Plenty of people protest peacefully however they are conveniently ignored.

    Colin Kaepernick received huge support from his sponsor Nike.

    His protests were a knowledge around the world to the point where everybody with an Internet connection or a television knows who he is.

    That's hardly being ignored.

    Glazers Out!



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