George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

walshb

suicide_circus wrote: »

well thats just theft. However lockdown has left a lot of people struggling...

It evokes a lot more than just the word, theft. It’s a disgusting disregard for people. A disgusting greed and utter lack of caring for people and society..

ohnonotgmail

degsie wrote: »

The cop at the center of the 'attack' was taken into custody.

took them long enough.

Clarence Boddiker

suicide_circus wrote: »

I would have though these were antifa types?

Definite possibility I'd say.

Blueshoe

suicide_circus wrote: »

well thats just theft. However lockdown has left a lot of people struggling...

I thought they were "protesting"?

Mr. Karate

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Definite possibility I'd say.

BLM is there. Yeah, they're still a thing.

Madeleine Birchfield

suicide_circus wrote: »

I haven't heard that particular argument before, not saying youre wrong but how do the right achieve this?

If you're talking about the American right preventing black Americans from assimilating into standard American society, then read about the Jim Crow laws and the sundown towns and the housing discrimination that barred black Americans from living in certain areas of American cities. Turns out Americans in the 19th century and 20th century were really obsessed about racial blood purity nonsense and didn't want black Americans marrying into their families or living by them, regardless of economic status. Americans then would rather marry a recent immigrant from Europe, Asia, Latin America, or the Middle East (provided their skin colour was light enough) whose culture is very different from American culture, than marry a black American, because of race. The only racial equivalent in Europe was the Nazis; even Mussolini preferred assimilation of the Austrians/Slovaks/Arabs/Somalis/Africans in Italy and was accepting of the Italian Jews until he got in bed with Hitler in 1940.

Silentcorner wrote: »

It seems, the "right" make them live in cities run by the "left"!!!

The black American population tended to live in the rural American South before the boil weevil pest destroyed cotton plantations in the early 1900s and forced much of the black Americans to migrate to the industrial factory cities of the American North in search for jobs. Then after civil rights in the 1960s, everybody else left the cities for the American suburbs and the black Americans were largely left with the cities themselves.

bloodless_coup

Blueshoe wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1266132139201957888?s=19

Insanity.

Not seeing too many whities there.

Clarence Boddiker

Madeleine Birchfield wrote: »

If you're talking about the American right preventing black Americans from assimilating into standard American society, then read about the Jim Crow laws and the sundown towns and the housing discrimination that barred black Americans from living in certain areas of American cities. Turns out Americans in the 19th century and 20th century were really obsessed about racial blood purity nonsense and didn't want black Americans marrying into their families or living by them, regardless of economic status. Americans then would rather marry a recent immigrant from Europe, Asia, Latin America, or the Middle East (provided their skin colour was light enough) whose culture is very different from American culture, than marry a black American, because of race. The only racial equivalent in Europe was the Nazis; even Mussolini preferred assimilation of the Austrians/Slovaks/Arabs/Somalis/Africans in Italy and was accepting of the Italian Jews until he got in bed with Hitler in 1940.



The black American population tended to live in the rural American South before the boil weevil pest destroyed cotton plantations in the early 1900s and forced much of the black Americans to migrate to the industrial factory cities of the American North in search for jobs. Then after civil rights in the 1960s, everybody else left the cities for the American suburbs and the black Americans were largely left with the cities themselves.

Theres an argument to be made that its the democrats that like to keep blacks on the 'welfare plantation' and thus buy their votes.
An interesting fact is that up until the mid 60's to early 70's (when the democrats began courting black voters with welfare promises) Blacks had lower rates of divorce than whites, lower rates of single parent families etc
Now the rates of fatherless families amongst blacks are mind bogglingly insane.

Democrats of course were the party supported by the KKK, the party of the deep south racists up until this time.

suicide_circus

Madeleine Birchfield wrote: »

If you're talking about the American right preventing black Americans from assimilating into standard American society, then read about the Jim Crow laws and the sundown towns and the housing discrimination that barred black Americans from living in certain areas of American cities. Turns out Americans in the 19th century and 20th century were really obsessed about racial blood purity nonsense and didn't want black Americans marrying into their families or living by them, regardless of economic status. Americans then would rather marry a recent immigrant from Europe, Asia, Latin America, or the Middle East (provided their skin colour was light enough) whose culture is very different from American culture, than marry a black American, because of race. The only racial equivalent in Europe was the Nazis; even Mussolini preferred assimilation of the Austrians/Slovaks/Arabs/Somalis/Africans in Italy and was accepting of the Italian Jews until he got in bed with Hitler in 1940.

i was more asking what the american right are doing today to prevent assimilation but your historical points are absolutely fair. The blood thing is an insanity but its not confined to the states. How someone with one black and one white parent is automatically black, no questions asked...could never get my head around that...very few people seem to embrace a "mixed race" identity.

JP Liz V1

Is it true Chauvin finally arrested?

Galwayguy35

Setting fire to buildings and looting everything they can get their hands insead of protesting about George Floyds death does the black community no favours.

And yet from the posts I've seen on various sites from black people talking about what happened they refuse to condemn the looters.

Galwayguy35

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is it true Chauvin finally arrested?

Yeah charged with third degree murder.

Itssoeasy

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is it true Chauvin finally arrested?

Arrested and charged with third degree murder and manslaughter.

JP Liz V1

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Arrested and charged with third degree murder and manslaughter.

Why both surely just murder?

The Floyd p

Lashing out at the institutions around you is to be expected when African American plight is constantly ignored by the government and its branches. Don't piss off a community with very little to lose and a lot of reasons to be angry.

ohnonotgmail

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah charged with third degree murder.

any link for that? Georgia doesnt have degrees of murder

Gatling

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah charged with third degree murder.

The other three are under investigation

Itssoeasy

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why both surely just murder?

No idea.

ElmoLaw

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Setting fire to buildings and looting everything they can get their hands insead of protesting about George Floyds death does the black community no favours.

And yet from the posts I've seen on various sites from black people talking about what happened they refuse to condemn the looters.

it is the whole community protesting not just black americans! the evil cop has been charged so hopefully it will quell the violence. I wonder though if people protested quietly would he have been charged in less than 5 days. the authorities were forced to make a decision (plus they had the video evidence of course in which the whole world bore witness to this man's murder) lots of factors the authorities couldn't ignore. not condoning violence - i just wonder how decisive the authorities would have been if people were quietly protesting and singing "shiny happy people holding hands."

Itssoeasy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

any link for that? Georgia doesnt have degrees of murder

Why would Georgia have any part in this ? It happened in Minnesota.

ElmoLaw

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Why would Georgia have any part in this ? It happened in Minnesota.

LOL!!

suicide_circus

does anyone agree that the lockdown and its associated hardships add massively to the feelings of public anger and frustration and are no doubt adding to the looting etc?

Madeleine Birchfield

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

An interesting fact is that up until the mid 60's to early 70's (when the democrats began courting black voters with welfare promises) Blacks had lower rates of divorce than whites, lower rates of single parent families etc
Now the rates of fatherless families amongst blacks are mind bogglingly insane.

That is partially because in 1973 there was a recession in the United States, but it was virtually another Great Depression for the black American community. This was also aided by the fact that everybody else left the cities for the suburbs, and the jobs and capital that followed them. Those jobs never came back; they first went to the suburbs, then they went to the American South, then they were offshored to Mexico and China. The black American communities in the cities never really recovered from that. Can't keep a stable family without a stable job and income. After the 2008 recession in the United States, the same phenomenon happened to working-class whites in the same cities.

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

any link for that? Georgia doesnt have degrees of murder

Minneapolis is in Minnesota.

ohnonotgmail

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Why would Georgia have any part in this ? It happened in Minnesota.

got mixed up with the murder of Arbery.

ElmoLaw

suicide_circus wrote: »

does anyone agree that the lockdown and its associated hardships add massively to the feelings of public anger and frustration and are no doubt adding to the looting etc?

yes was thinking that could be a factor

Clarence Boddiker

The Floyd p wrote: »

Lashing out at the institutions around you is to be expected when African American plight is constantly ignored by the government and its branches. Don't piss off a community with very little to lose and a lot of reasons to be angry.

Does that extend to everybody or is it just blacks?

If for example the white people of Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford etc protested, burned and looted over the plight of the tens of thousands of white children groomed and raped by Asian gangs whilst being ignored by the Government and its branches...would you support it?

Itssoeasy

ElmoLaw wrote: »

yes was thinking that could be a factor

The unrest in Minneapolis is on a smaller but similiar scale to what happened in LA in 1992 but very much the same in the way in which anger at injustice and there was no lockdown in affect in 1992.

Clarence Boddiker

Madeleine Birchfield wrote: »

That is partially because in 1973 there was a recession in the United States, but it was virtually another Great Depression for the black American community. This was also aided by the fact that everybody else left the cities for the suburbs, and the jobs and capital that followed them. Those jobs never came back; they first went to the suburbs, then they went to the American South, then they were offshored to Mexico and China. The black American communities in the cities never really recovered from that. Can't keep a stable family without a stable job and income. After the 2008 recession in the United States, the same phenomenon happened to working-class whites in the same cities.

The introduction of Crack Cocaine in the 70's also had a devastating effect on Black communities and many have never recovered.

ElmoLaw

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The unrest in Minneapolis is on a smaller but similiar scale to what happened in LA in 1992 but very much the same in the way in which anger at injustice and there was no lockdown in affect in 1992.

yes true.