George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

CinemaGuy45

BluePlanet wrote: »

Evidence?

I hate this tactic on forums.

You have Google same as the person you are replying to.

Can you disprove it?

Should we all ask for evidence and links for every post?:rolleyes:

Chris_Heilong

A revamp of the police force and who can become an officer is what I think is needed there, I am not going to jump to racism as being the issue in most cases, more so power drunk loons that have no business being police officers,

As far as a racial element goes for the most part the cops in America view poorly dressed uneducated black people the same way the Garda view poorly dressed uneducated people from Ballymun, some people would say it always racial but by saying that you take away the ability to judge everyone by the same yard stick, a scum bag is a scum bag regardless of cop or looter of colour.

jam_mac_jam

Homelander wrote: »

Melvin Carter, black mayor of St Paul, said this.

"There are those among us, who would seek to use his death, as a cover, to agitate the destruction of the same communities most traumatized by George Floyd's death".

I mean, that's what most reasonable posters in this thread are generally alluding to, but being shouted down as racist and apparently not understanding the impact of a multi-centennial culture of adversary.

Is it OK for Melvin Carter to say it because it is black? Or you know, could it be that what he is saying is actually true, and simply a rational statement by any person, regardless of the color of their skin.

Of course it's a rational statement. The major of Atlanta is black and was calling on people not to riot. She had a rapper on the stage with her asking not to burn your own house down.

Nobody is being called racist for saying protestors shouldn't riot.

Blueshoe

Blueshoe wrote: »

Ah yes. The mortal crime of carrying your country's flag.

This has gone from a legitimate peaceful protest about the murder of a black man to riots and looting to an excuse to attack people who's political views are different to yours. Both men were white too.

I saw another video of a man being chased down and attacked because he had a "make America great again" hat on.

The fuse has been lit

I would say it's more that you're entirely out of touch. It's not a new thing that protests like this result in riots. Cause very little changes and ultimately police brutality is in part political. In fairness the president has started to egg on police brutality in the last few days, even going as far as quoting racist law enforcement.

So when there's a racist in office, it becomes all the more relevant in the current situation. (You're gonna deny he's racist but most people know better)

Clarence Boddiker

BluePlanet wrote: »

Evidence?

Well maybe a little less than 100 mill but he'll be ok

https://247sports.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/Article/Colin-Kaepernick-collusion-case-settlement-amount-NFL-129142821/

Blueshoe

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is it? Must mean all the people that said the very same about Floyds murder were engaging in psychotic mental gymnastics so...............



and Andy Ngo is a lying scumbag btw, writing right wing bull**** for Breitbart and going all "independent journalist"

He regularly edits videos to suits and leaves out important details.

"dont trust the msm" they shout, then use this charlatan as proof.

Protests stopped long ago.

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266937692832632834?s=19

Clarence Boddiker

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is it? Must mean all the people that said the very same about Floyds murder were engaging in psychotic mental gymnastics so...............



and Andy Ngo is a lying scumbag btw, writing right wing bull**** for Breitbart and going all "independent journalist"

He regularly edits videos to suits and leaves out important details.

"dont trust the msm" they shout, then use this charlatan as proof.

The video is quite clear, no amount of shooting the messenger will change that. But of course we all know Attacking the source of information is the tried and tested tactic of progressives.

Christy42

BluePlanet wrote: »

Evidence?

Doubt there is exact evidence but his settlement with the nfl was meant to be massive though the exact figure remained secret.

Remember though there were calls for all who knelt to be fired. Certainly Kaep was in a position of privilege were he could take that risk. Not everyone would be able to take that risk. Calling on anyone who peacefully protested police violence to be fired can't have felt great to many who wouldn't be able to take that risk and was a bad message to send.

ElmoLaw

Cody montana wrote: »

Any protest in Ireland?

Time to take to the streets in solidarity!

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/george-floyd-solidarity-demonstrations-organised-for-dublin-1002633.html dont know how that will work with social distancing though

Higgins5473

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Porn videos of George Floyd surfacing. “Big Floyd” his stage name. Pulled down by a good few porn sites but all over Twitter.

Why is it even a relevant?

Guy:Incognito

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

The video is quite clear.

So was the one the whole thread is about but here we are.................

Stateofyou

Deleted User wrote: »

When Obama was in charge?

I now have this image of you sitting around trying to come up with the most ignorant things you could possibly say. Pathetic. Yeah the first black president should have been able to fix everything and change people's hearts and minds too and instantly reverse the decades of racism single-handedly. America was great again for all black people when he was president. Do you actually believe the sh*te you spout? The case of Trayvon Martin occurred when he was president, here's what he had to say, you can find the rest on www.whitehouse.gov:

You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.

There are very few African American men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.

Now, this isn't to say that the African American community is naïve about the fact that African American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact -- although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.

CinemaGuy45

Blueshoe wrote: »

Protests stopped long ago.

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266937692832632834?s=19

How can people defend this?

jam_mac_jam

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

A revamp of the police force and who can become an officer is what I think is needed there, I am not going to jump to racism as being the issue in most cases, more so power drunk loons that have no business being police officers,

As far as a racial element goes for the most part the cops in America view poorly dressed uneducated black people the same way the Garda view poorly dressed uneducated people from Ballymun, some people would say it always racial but by saying that you take away the ability to judge everyone by the same yard stick, a scum bag is a scum bag regardless of cop or looter of colour.

I agree and it's not just racial. There are cases of white people quoted earlier which are also horrific.

The police need to face consequences for their actions. Instead of just being justified because they are police and the victim being blamed. Or denying this brutality exists.

BluePlanet

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I hate this tactic on forums.

You have Google same as the person you are replying to.

Can you disprove it?

Should we all ask for evidence and links for every post?:rolleyes:

They destroyed his career, that's why they gave him an out of court settlement.

Less than $10m
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/21/colin-kaepernick-settlement-nfl-value-collusion

Dyr

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

No it's horrible. And anyone who has to defend their business themselves obviously people who can't afford this. A lot of people's lives will be destroyed by this. Just like the LA riots. 30 years ago.

Unelss you're from a well armed and tightly knit community, enter the roof Koreans:D:

silverharp

this made me laugh. "he's here!"

https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1267050516615442432

BluePlanet

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How can people defend this?

Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
theocratic fascist, tyrant, celebrated banjo player and beekeeper

:rolleyes:

niallo27

Cody montana wrote: »

George Floyds life is over.

What the **** does that even mean, what the **** has the police killing someone have to do with mobs destroying innocent peoples lives. What have these people got to do with the police or george floyd

Kermit.de.frog

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How can people defend this?

They don't take nonsense over there, unlike here.

Blueshoe

BluePlanet wrote: »

Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
theocratic fascist, tyrant, celebrated banjo player and beekeeper

:rolleyes:

And the video? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266937692832632834?s=19

Higgins5473

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why is it even a relevant?

Your response was far too predictable.

Because, if you think about it for a minute, remove all your emotional energy. Without prejudice, it will not be the best look for any Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy and the all the murals being painted.

Clarence Boddiker

BluePlanet wrote: »

Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
theocratic fascist, tyrant, celebrated banjo player and beekeeper

:rolleyes:

I guess the videos he posted must be fake then...CGI perhaps?

Lundstram

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How can people defend this?

Because it's the popular thing to do otherwise you're accused of racism.

I've watched a lot of videos of these so called 'protests' and I'm starting to side with US law enforcement. They have a thankless job.

CinemaGuy45

BluePlanet wrote: »

They destroyed his career, that's why they gave him an out of court settlement.

Less than $10m
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/21/colin-kaepernick-settlement-nfl-value-collusion

I don't care either way about that point.

It is just very annoying reading threads and seen constant calls for links.

If I think somebody is posting something untrue I will post a link to counter.

However I will never ask for a link.

alchemist33

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How can people defend this?

Who defended it?

BluePlanet

Blueshoe wrote: »

And the video? Any thoughts?

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266937692832632834?s=19

We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
But yeah, i condemn it.

jam_mac_jam

Bambi wrote: »

Unelss you're from a well armed and tightly knit community, enter the roof Koreans:D:

This makes me nostalgic. Which is terrible.

Blueshoe

BluePlanet wrote: »

We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
But yeah, i condemn it.

Yeah imagine trying to defend your business. He must be a racist too

jam_mac_jam

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How can people defend this?

Who is defending that? Honestly?