George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

CinemaGuy45

BluePlanet wrote: »

We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
But yeah, i condemn it.

So we must not disrespect black mobs by trying to defend ourselves.

circadian

Catching up on the news since this first happened. The protests and subsequent violence from both sides has me thinking "this is it" this is the powder keg about to explode. Some of those rioting are just there for the rioting. I grew up in Derry, this was always the case when things kicked off. You had people come from all over just to wreck the place.

I think some of those rioting are doing it to undermine the protests, and some are genuine protesters getting pushed to the brink. There seems to be tons of footage of police in various cities acting aggressively towards protesters who seem to be largely peaceful, noisy yes, but non violent. This is inevitably going to escalate things too. Cops ramming through a group of people in New York, someone getting hit with pellet spray on the way home from the shops, reporters being arrested live on TV and reporters being shot. It's madness, they've lost control.

The last 4 years has been stoking tensions amongst the American citizens non stop, and here we have a large scale confrontation. I can't see either side backing down, especially with Trump backing the police and his rhetoric in general has been absolutely woeful and done nothing to calm the situation. The crazy thing is they're in the middle of dealing, relatively badly, with a pandemic, so everyone is already on edge and their leader continues to pour petrol on it.

I do wonder if the administration thinks that a combination of this escalating and Covid-19 could lead to a state of emergency and therefore lengthening Trumps Presidency. Conjecture for sure, but given everything that's happened these last few years, not unreal by anyone's standard.

CinemaGuy45

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Who is defending that? Honestly?

Blueplanet for a start.

Lundstram

BluePlanet wrote: »

We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
But yeah, i condemn it.

And that warranted being almost kicked to death by a bunch of cowards? Wow.

Higgins5473

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Your response was far too predictable.

Because, if you think about it for a minute, remove all your emotional energy. Without prejudice, it will not be the best look for any Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy and the all the murals being painted.

Why does it matter? Does his life matter less because he potentially did porn? Does it make it more acceptable that a police officer murdered him? Does it make it less protest worthy?

BluePlanet

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

So we must not disrespect black mobs by trying to defend ourselves.

The video shows whites in that ruckus too, interesting that you've only cited "black mobs".

jam_mac_jam

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Blueplanet for a start.

By saying they condem it?

BluePlanet

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Blueplanet for a start.

Really, where?

Cody montana

niallo27 wrote: »

What the **** does that even mean, what the **** has the police killing someone have to do with mobs destroying innocent peoples lives. What have these people got to do with the police or george floyd

Oh yeah.
Two totally random unconnected events.😬

Retr0gamer

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Proof that Leftists are constantly looking for things to be outraged about.

He is sending armed forces against his own citizens. What's not to be outraged about?

CinemaGuy45

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

By saying they condem it?

BluePlanet wrote: »

We missed the provocation part, where he threatens the mob with a sword.
But yeah, i condemn it.

Seems pretty half hearted to me.

jam_mac_jam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why does it matter? Does his life matter less because he potentially did porn? Does it make it more acceptable that a police officer murdered him? Does it make it less protest worthy?

Yes anything he did in his life that can be brought up means he is less deserving of his rights or treatment above that of an animal

Guy:Incognito

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

The video is quite clear, no amount of shooting the messenger will change that. But of course we all know Attacking the source of information is the tried and tested tactic of progressives.

Ill support attacking the messenger long before ill support attacking the guy on the ground that died with 4 cops on or around him.

My point wasnt about a specific video (though if a video of 3 news crew getting arrested can be disputed in meaning and blame ill certainly ask questions of a video that starts right before the bit that the author needs it to) but Andy Ngo in general.

Id trust a random person putting the video on twitter before I'd take what he says at face value. Its very convenient it starts right there where it does.

If CNN did that , you'd be hammering them.

Higgins5473

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why does it matter? Does his life matter less because he potentially did porn? Does it make it more acceptable that a police officer murdered him? Does it make it less protest worthy?

That read like your keyboard just got an awful beating.

Again, remove all your emotional energy and read my reply. It will not help the Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy. Porn is an abusive industry which is very damaging to women, he was a part of it. That’s just the way it is, no matter how much you would prefer to deflect and say it doesn’t matter, it does, it is not good for his role in the campaign of Black Lives Matter which has seen a massive resurgence in the last week.

AllForIt

This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

Guy:Incognito

Higgins5473 wrote: »

That read like your keyboard just got an awful beating.

Again, remove all your emotional energy and read my reply. It will not help the Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy. Porn is an abusive industry which is very damaging to women, he was a part of it. That’s just the way it is, no matter how much you would prefer to deflect and say it doesn’t matter, it does, it is not good for his role in the campaign of Black Lives Matter which has seen a massive resurgence in the last week.

It doesnt matter a thing what he did in the past or right up until he ended up on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. Its totally irrelevant.

Clarence Boddiker

AllForIt wrote: »

This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

They're trying their hardest to import American racial politics and discourse and apply it to Ireland.

double jobbing

Cody montana wrote: »

Any protest in Ireland?

Time to take to the streets in solidarity!

The unemployable weirdos of the Connolly Youth Movement were making the usual tit of themselves at Hapenny Bridge I do believe.

They're a handsome bunch of high achieving go getters if you care to check their Facebook page.

Lundstram

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It doesnt matter a thing what he did in the past or right up until he ended up on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. Its totally irrelevant.

Wrong.

You obviously know nothing of the US court system.

alchemist33

AllForIt wrote: »

This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

People are getting killed in America by police and in riots, and this is what's annoying you? A twitterer complaining about journalism in Ireland?

Blueshoe

Gardai are racist now. As is direct provision

https://twitter.com/marycryin/status/1267052844286382088?s=19

walshb

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How can people defend this?

Just absolutely vile. Saddened I witnessed this...

Dirty filthy animals..

This is what rioting and anarchy is..

But hey, to many, it’s just theft....can’t get worse than that, can it? Man was in their way.....collateral damage.....

Guy:Incognito

Lundstram wrote: »

Wrong.

You obviously know nothing of the US court system.

How is it wrong? Go ahead and explain. What was he going to do to them from that position to warrant a knee on the neck for 10 minutes and what has the courts system to do with that?

What has his past got to do with them killing him (ill say them, because 2 others were on him t, at least for a time, holding the rest of his body)

jam_mac_jam

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It doesnt matter a thing what he did in the past or right up until he ended up on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back. Its totally irrelevant.

Everything will be brought up that him or his family have ever done will be used to show he is less deserving of human rights. If his cousin smoked a joint you will hear about it.

That's the thing about human rights and fair treatment it applies to everyone.a lot of people don't like that fact. Should only apply to upstanding citizens.

jam_mac_jam

Lundstram wrote: »

Wrong.

You obviously know nothing of the US court system.

He didn't get to the court system. That's the issue.

biko

walshb wrote: »

The defense will say that he was resisting arrest, and that he died, not from the knee-asphyxiation, but his underlying health conditions...

Nobody can know for sure, but it's likely that Chauvin does not get convicted of murder in the 3rd here...

True, but if they don't put him away for murder then all hell is going to break lose.

There's a black guy on Al Jazeera now saying trump has been a great champion of black communities..

Higgins5473

Higgins5473 wrote: »

That read like your keyboard just got an awful beating.

Again, remove all your emotional energy and read my reply. It will not help the Black Lives Matter campaign using him as a poster boy. Porn is an abusive industry which is very damaging to women, he was a part of it. That’s just the way it is, no matter how much you would prefer to deflect and say it doesn’t matter, it does, it is not good for his role in the campaign of Black Lives Matter which has seen a massive resurgence in the last week.

It can be pretty awful for men as an industry as well and this is well documented. So no your point isn't valid. The fact he did porn will not matter.

Even if it turned out that he was a terrible human being, it doesn't matter given what happened. He is an example of completely undue force being used by the police resulting in his death. Do you think his death was completely unjustifiable?

MadYaker

AllForIt wrote: »

This is the kind of garbage Ireland has to put up with forever more now because of our 'commitment to multiculturalism', as our president was quoted as saying recently.


https://twitter.com/SorchaPollak/status/1266663294196121600

What difference does it make to you?

biko

Blueshoe wrote: »

Gardai are racist now. As is direct provision

They are just using the current bandwagon.

If you scroll down through their flow the agenda becomes pretty clear.