Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

Stheno

NegativeCreep wrote: »

It’s a bad situation to be living with someone who doesn’t respect what you want to happen in your own home. I know I talk about lifting restrictions on here but I do t want to see people being fearful in their own houses. Maybe you could ask him to go to their houses instead? Tell him you have an illness that you never discussed with him before that makes you especially vulnerable? That might not be a great solution but it might work.

That might be the only thing that would work

Or ask if they could stay outside?

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stephenjmcd wrote: »

Happened last weekend as well, numbers dont tend to see much of a drop over weekends.

Didn't post the operations update myself this morning because I'm not sure if its 100% accurate, there's figures there for 8pm last night but the graphs dont show anything, probably a reporting error but there's nothing there to back up the numbers.

Have experience of long stays in hospital with my daughter and the weekends are the worst. Nothing except urgent stuff happens. She always managed to get sick on a Friday and you’d know nothing would happen over the weekend, Monday’s or Tuesdays (bank holiday) should show a drop hopefully.

Away With The Fairies

NegativeCreep wrote: »

It’s a bad situation to be living with someone who doesn’t respect what you want to happen in your own home. I know I talk about lifting restrictions on here but I do t want to see people being fearful in their own houses. Maybe you could ask him to go to their houses instead? Tell him you have an illness that you never discussed with him before that makes you especially vulnerable? That might not be a great solution but it might work.

Never works with hypocritical behaviour. Asking someone to go to someone else's house is pointless anyways, they're bringing back possible infection into the house.

nocoverart

Hector Savage wrote: »

Harsh truth to face, this **** will never be gone till there is a vaccine, that could be ****ing decades away

Jesus, I was expecting a little more positivity around here. Not saying you're wrong but we're doing good right now, so why not focus on the here and now? nobody actually knows the future path of this Virus, might even weaken out for all we know.

Non solum non ambulabit

caveat emptor wrote: »

Kinda explains why restrictions may be lifted.....Doesn't mean it's right.
Given the litmus test for the decision would be an outbreak of a potentially deadly disease means that the stakes couldn't be higher. No-one wants to be associated with fall out from Brexit. I mean lifting restrictions. Hence the inertia.

Very apt for this thread. I've seen posters post factual numbers without comment and be hounded away.

E.g. Based on testing 0.03% of the population of Ireland currently has Covid 19 or 99.97% don't.

JoChervil

growleaves wrote: »

Neither is Iceland.

That is the way of reasoning here. Stating a true fact, which has nothing to do with a previous discussion, so everything seems OK...

s1ippy

Stheno wrote: »

What are you on about? The poster I replied to has strangers visiting their house ffs cos they wont ask their housemate not to invite them?

I wear masks as recommended too? Did you reply to the wrong post or are you just lashing out due to poor reading comprehension?

Have you been going outside or to the shops at all or do you just stay in all the time?

It was this statement that I took issue with and I probably came off as directing my annoyance at you. Apologies, I didn't see who it was posted and tbf you actually have been vocal in your support for wearing masks.

I would be in an at-risk category and I knew I had to go out to the shop this morning so was in bad form and stressed. In other news, only(?) three people I saw were wreching and spluttering into the open air today.

bb1234567

Hector Savage wrote: »

Harsh truth to face, this **** will never be gone till there is a vaccine, that could be ****ing decades away

You have pretty wild mood swings I think it might be eradicated from certain parts of the world, I can't see another outbreak occurring in New Zealand or South or Iceland for example

ACitizenErased

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Happened last weekend as well, numbers dont tend to see much of a drop over weekends.

Didn't post the operations update myself this morning because I'm not sure if its 100% accurate, there's figures there for 8pm last night but the graphs dont show anything, probably a reporting error but there's nothing there to back up the numbers.

It’s saying the CUH is now empty. Won’t get another update until Monday afternoon but if that is true that’s quite a significant decrease from 3 ventilated and 2 others to now having 0.

Stheno

s1ippy wrote: »

It was this statement that I took issue with and I probably came off as directing my annoyance at you. Apologies, I didn't see who it was posted and tbf you actually have been vocal in your support for wearing masks.

I would be in an at-risk category and I knew I had to go out to the shop this morning so was in bad form and stressed. In other news, only(?) three people I saw were wreching and spluttering into the open air today.

No worries

ACitizenErased

One thing to note from the HSE updates is we seem to have an incredibly high ventilation survival rate. Apparently the average survival rate is 20%, yet we see ventilator numbers decreasing with no reported ICU deaths.

KindOfIrish

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s1ippy

ACitizenErased wrote: »

One thing to note from the HSE updates is we seem to have an incredibly high ventilation survival rate. Apparently the average survival rate is 20%, yet we see ventilator numbers decreasing with no reported ICU deaths.

Not to come off as a doom merchant but we don't tend to put people on them unless they're younger. I know two elderly people and a young woman with a disability who passed away with no ventilator intervention but one man in his 40s who recovered after being in a coma on one for two weeks.

eagle eye

Non solum non ambulabit wrote:

Very apt for this thread. I've seen posters post factual numbers without comment and be hounded away.
E.g. Based on testing 0.03% of the population of Ireland currently has Covid 19 or 99.97% don't.

And your point is?
Did you ever think about the future, short term?
Everybody sticks by the rules and everything goes well. A few break the rules and we have a minor problem. Let's say 5% break the rules, we go back over an r0 of 1 and we are back in the mire.
I decided to check out a local lake yesterday to see if I could bring the dogs out for a walk there and they'd be able to swim to cool down. The place was packed, I drove very slowly along a busy part of the road and observed three cars in one spot with six adults and a bunch of kids hanging out together. I observed a bunch of young lads, late teens, lying side by side sunning themselves, if there was a gap between any of them it was three inches max.
This is not good, it's not supposed to be happening and if this is going on all over the country we won't have results from it for quite some time.

ACitizenErased

s1ippy wrote: »

Not to come off as a doom merchant but we don't tend to put people on them unless they're younger. I know two elderly people and a young woman with a disability who passed away with no ventilator intervention but one man in his 40s who recovered after being in a coma on one for two weeks.

That makes sense, unfortunately

Non solum non ambulabit

eagle eye wrote: »

And your point is?
Did you ever think about the future, short term?
Everybody sticks by the rules and everything goes well. A few break the rules and we have a minor problem. Let's say 5% break the rules, we go back over an r0 of 1 and we are back in the mire.
I decided to check out a local lake yesterday to see if I could bring the dogs out for a walk there and they'd be able to swim to cool down. The place was packed, I drove very slowly along a busy part of the road and observed three cars in one spot with six adults and a bunch of kids hanging out together. I observed a bunch of young lads, late teens, lying side by side sunning themselves, if there was a gap between any of them it was three inches max.
This is not good, it's not supposed to be happening and if this is going on all over the country we won't have results from it for quite some time.

Thank you. You are welcome to your opinion.
I just posted a fact with no comment.

growleaves

JoChervil wrote: »

That is the way of reasoning here. Stating a true fact, which has nothing to do with a previous discussion, so everything seems OK...

It's relevant to Brazil, which is in the Southern Hemisphere. Can you not make the distinction between the application of a fact to one part of a statement but not the other part of that statement without it being spelled out? Not here to spoon-feed people.

kwestfan08

eagle eye wrote: »

And your point is?
Did you ever think about the future, short term?
Everybody sticks by the rules and everything goes well. A few break the rules and we have a minor problem. Let's say 5% break the rules, we go back over an r0 of 1 and we are back in the mire.
I decided to check out a local lake yesterday to see if I could bring the dogs out for a walk there and they'd be able to swim to cool down. The place was packed, I drove very slowly along a busy part of the road and observed three cars in one spot with six adults and a bunch of kids hanging out together. I observed a bunch of young lads, late teens, lying side by side sunning themselves, if there was a gap between any of them it was three inches max.
This is not good, it's not supposed to be happening and if this is going on all over the country we won't have results from it for quite some time.

The biggest danger in that whole post was probably you driving very slowly along a busy part of the road. Could have killed someone.

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

One thing to note from the HSE updates is we seem to have an incredibly high ventilation survival rate. Apparently the average survival rate is 20%, yet we see ventilator numbers decreasing with no reported ICU deaths.

This was discussed in the times yesterday our ventilation survival rate I think was four times that of England. I'll see if I can dig it out

eagle eye

kwestfan08 wrote:

The biggest danger in that whole post was probably you driving very slowly along a busy part of the road. Could have killed someone.

It was busy with people not traffic. Try harder.

Away With The Fairies

s1ippy wrote: »

Not to come off as a doom merchant but we don't tend to put people on them unless they're younger. I know two elderly people and a young woman with a disability who passed away with no ventilator intervention but one man in his 40s who recovered after being in a coma on one for two weeks.

How come the young woman with a disability didn't get a ventilator?

ACitizenErased

Its a credit to our health service that we have such a high ventilation survival rate.

timsey tiger

Stheno wrote: »

It was over 64% of total cases so it has dropped hugely in recent weeks

No country has tested everyone with symptoms

We have tested a very high number of people and the tests are 98% negative

What do you want? Anyone with so much as a cough to be tested?

Have you been going outside or to the shops at all or do you just stay in all the time?

This is impressive given that the number of new cases has fallen significantly, recently. Which makes it harder to reduce the cumulative average. They must be tracing practically every case now. Only a few weeks ago the cumulative average was still rising.

kwestfan08

eagle eye wrote: »

It was busy with people not traffic. Try harder.

But seriously, outside in the fresh air your chances of catching anything are slim to none. Only 0.03% of people have been confirmed to have it. Don't deny yourself the pleasure of a nice walk when the weather is lovely on the very minuscule chance you get covid. Life is too short.

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote: »

It was busy with people not traffic. Try harder.

If you were driving on a busy road looking at people laying on the grass trying to work out how far apart they were you clearly were not paying attention to the road. You whether you like it or not were the danger in that setting. Driving without due care and attention is an offence under the law.

Plumbthedepths

s1ippy wrote: »

Not to come off as a doom merchant but we don't tend to put people on them unless they're younger. I know two elderly people and a young woman with a disability who passed away with no ventilator intervention but one man in his 40s who recovered after being in a coma on one for two weeks.

RIP to the deceased, but I'm surprised that you know 4 people who got Covid and 3 of whom sadly passed from it.
I must be very lucky as I know of no one who got the virus.

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Stheno

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How come the young woman with a disability didn't get a ventilator?

Before anyone goes into ICU/ on a ventilator, doctors will assess if it is in the patients best interest is my understanding, and if it is not they will not be put on one

I know someone who was on a ventilator for 5 weeks and is now learning to walk again

ACitizenErased

Ventilation is an incredibly invasive procedure. Not nice at all - that’s why it’s saved for only those who doctors believe are likely to survive.

s1ippy

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How come the young woman with a disability didn't get a ventilator?

She had underlying conditions, my guess is that her quality of life was deemed to have not been high enough had she survived and she had no family to advocate for her. I don't know for sure. She died in March.