Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

fr336

Finally some good news coming out in dribs and drabs. Hopefully this is the start of some concrete science that sees the world coming out of this mess.

See I can do positive

STB.

Micky 32 wrote: »

I think we have as many second wave experts on boards aswell,

We certainly have a wave of people who haven't mastered the english language.

That these are the very people quoting from medium articles didn't surprise me either. They know better than the top infectious disease specialist in the country!

I'll leave ye to it.

Micky 32

fr336 wrote: »

The difference is if the "nothing to see here" crowd are listened to it could result in more deaths, more lockdown and more economic strife.

There’s more evidence to suggest that it’s unlikely there will be a second wave. Stop talking nonsense.

fr336

Micky 32 wrote: »

There’s more evidence to suggest that it’s unlikely there will be a second wave. Stop talking nonsense.

If it's nonsense then why not say a second wave is impossible? If you're so confident in your argument why the desperation to shut down debate? Hmmm.

Micky 32

STB. wrote: »

We certainly have a wave of people who haven't mastered the english language.

That these are the very people quoting from medium articles didn't surprise me either. They know better than the top infectious disease specialist in the country!

I'll leave ye to it.

Who is this post aimed at, me?

fritzelly

No one know if there will be a second wave, it could be lying dormant (asymptomatic) in lots of people and come Autumn/Winter it flares up again. There are enough reports out there of how it can spread quickly in areas where it had been eradicated

The best thing to hope for is it becomes like seasonal flu and is just another annoyance we have to bear with each year with accompanying deaths (just like flu) that become part of life on Earth
We sure as hell cannot keep shutting whole countries down every time it flares up - herd immunity will be the de facto response hoping immunity stops it in its tracks or lessens the effects

ACitizenErased

Micky 32 wrote: »

Who is this post aimed at, me?

I wouldn’t even bother replying to him, the guys deluded.

Micky 32

fr336 wrote: »

If it's nonsense then why not say a second wave is impossible? If you're so confident in your argument why the desperation to shut down debate? Hmmm.

I never said it was impossible but it’s unlikely. There seems to be “ armchair boards experts” that think otherwise.

bb1234567

Micky 32 wrote: »

I never said it was impossible but it’s unlikely. There seems to be “ armchair boards experts” that think otherwise.

What makes it unlikely? I think the possibility is absolutely there, it depends completely on how society decides to act within coming months, to me that doesn't really make it either likely or unlikely, simply completely possible.

Micky 32

bb1234567 wrote: »

What makes it unlikely? I think the possibility is absolutely there, it depends completely on how society decides to act within coming months, to me that doesn't really make it either likely or unlikely, simply completely possible.

The evidence is in Europe with lockdowns that have been eased for weeks now. So far it looks more unlikely than likely.

bb1234567

Micky 32 wrote: »

The evidence is in Europe with lockdowns that have been eased for weeks now. So far it looks more unlikely than likely.

It is not inherently unlikely , it depends completely on the individual society and the measures they take to prevent another outbreak. For example German and Danish society was completely reinvented to combat the virus, no sign of a second wave was not something that just happened by accident

Micky 32

bb1234567 wrote: »

It is not inherently unlikely , it depends completely on the individual society and the measures they take to prevent another outbreak. For example German and Danish society was completely reinvented to combat the virus, no sign of a second wave was not something that just happened by accident

Anyway time will tell, we’ll have to wait and see...

eagle eye

Micky 32 wrote:

The evidence is in Europe with lockdowns that have been eased for weeks now. So far it looks more unlikely than likely.

Are you only looking at the countries that haven't had an increase? Are you looking at countries that shut their borders and ordered everybody to wear facemasks or just the countries that did similar to Ireland and have reopened?

Micky 32

eagle eye wrote: »

Are you only looking at the countries that haven't had an increase? Are you looking at countries that shut their borders and ordered everybody to wear facemasks or just the countries that did similar to Ireland and have reopened?

I have been studying all countries and their methods. It’s dying out in europe.

bb1234567

Odd that Canada of all places is still reporting so many deaths, compared to most of the western world where death rates have fallen off a cliff. Canada reported it's highest ever single day death toll in the pandemic today of 222 deaths

ACitizenErased

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd that Canada of all places is still reporting so many deaths, compared to most of the western world where death rates have fallen off a cliff. Canada today reported it's highest ever single day death toll in the pandemic today of 222 deaths

As far as I know Canada has had a lot of nursing home issues. May be wrong though!

Micky 32

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd that Canada of all places is still reporting so many deaths, compared to most of the western world where death rates have fallen off a cliff. Canada today reported it's highest ever single day death toll in the pandemic today of 222 deaths

It does seem high in relation to the cases, unless they are deaths that were delayed reported

Micky 32

https://theliberal.ie/chaotic-scenes-as-gardai-in-galway-arrest-two-youths-in-large-teenage-clash-both-released-a-short-time-later/

Will we see a spike in Galway, should be interesting.

fritzelly

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://theliberal.ie/chaotic-scenes-as-gardai-in-galway-arrest-two-youths-in-large-teenage-clash-both-released-a-short-time-later/

Will we see a spike in Galway, should be interesting.

Christ did a 6 year old write that riveting piece of journalism?

Dante7

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://theliberal.ie/chaotic-scenes-as-gardai-in-galway-arrest-two-youths-in-large-teenage-clash-both-released-a-short-time-later/

Will we see a spike in Galway, should be interesting.

No we won't. By virtue of the fact that The Liberal reported it, it is bound to be exaggerated and a non-incident.

Atlantic Dawn

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd that Canada of all places is still reporting so many deaths, compared to most of the western world where death rates have fallen off a cliff. Canada reported it's highest ever single day death toll in the pandemic today of 222 deaths

How many of those deaths are above expected mortality rates of Canadians or are we allowed ask that?

fritzelly

fritzelly wrote: »

Christ did a 6 year old write that riveting piece of journalism?

Ah the political prisoners another poster mentioned earlier.

The only thing they write is bullsh1t, be it in their opinion pieces or add to the stories that they hack up from the actual copy from news sites.

In this case a couple of arseholes decided to have a row and their mates tried to stop the garda arresting them, a normal weekend in Salthill.

wadacrack

Will see in the next few weeks if this is true in the UK


https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1267358067773054976

Jim_Hodge

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd that Canada of all places is still reporting so many deaths, compared to most of the western world where death rates have fallen off a cliff. Canada reported it's highest ever single day death toll in the pandemic today of 222 deaths

That's a huge daily increase but it included previously unreported cases. Look at the longer terns for Canada, not a single day.

schmoo2k

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://theliberal.ie/chaotic-scenes-as-gardai-in-galway-arrest-two-youths-in-large-teenage-clash-both-released-a-short-time-later/

Will we see a spike in Galway, should be interesting.

Very unlikely (compared to March):
* The % of population with the Virus is now very low
* The virus is less efficient at transferring in "outside" conditions
* The third party folks who were involved are a lot better at hand sanitizing and not touching face etc.

Personally I think there will be localised spikes when people start to travel more and socialize indoors come the winter time - but they will remain contained, mainly due to new behaviours.

Also I suspect Flu + Common Cold transmission this year will be greatly reduced for the same reasons - which may end up with net neutral deaths come Christmas (IOW Flu + Covid Deaths for winter 2020/21 will equal Flu deaths from winter 2019/20) - wishful thinking?

owlbethere

schmoo2k wrote: »

Very unlikely (compared to March):
* The % of population with the Virus is now very low
* The virus is less efficient at transferring in "outside" conditions
* The third party folks who were involved are a lot better at hand sanitizing and not touching face etc.

Personally I think there will be localised spikes when people start to travel more and socialize indoors come the winter time - but they will remain contained, mainly due to new behaviours.

Also I suspect Flu + Common Cold transmission this year will be greatly reduced for the same reasons - which may end up with net neutral deaths come Christmas (IOW Flu + Covid Deaths for winter 2020/21 will equal Flu deaths from winter 2019/20) - wishful thinking?

In an ideal world people would continue to do what is required of them to do to minimise spread. Its never going to happen though. Just twice last week I noticed:

1) someone coughing into her hands. Great that she contained her cough and all but into her hands where she goes and spreads her germs about touching things. Chances of it being virus is slim but still.
2) someone coughing into the open without covering her mouth.

Fcuking scumbag, especially the second one.

People don't care. They don't care about themselves or others.

Its been a few months since I was in a public toilet but before all this - people washing their hands - well that was poor from what I saw. People turning on the tap just to dip their hands under and that's that. Using no soap. That's not handwashing.

Its going to be impossible to train a certain section of scumbags to do what's right.

Boggles

wadacrack wrote: »

Will see in the next few weeks if this is true in the UK


https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1267358067773054976

He is a "celebrity" doctor. Berlusconi's personal physician.

"We've got to get back to being a normal country," he said. "Someone has to take responsibility for terrorising the country.

Hopefully what he is claiming is true, but this needs to be put on paper and reviewed, over emotive ranting and raving on TV from an attention whore making all sorts of unsubstantiated claims is pretty dangerous given the absolute state parts of Italy were in just a very short time ago.

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1267358042250784769

MD1990

Italy & Spain improvement has been great in the last month despite opening back up again.

No country in Europe has had a 2nd wave after lifting restrictions.

I think it is very possible the virus has become less contagious in Europe for some reason.

Harry Palmr

Wouldn't be shocked to see a few fresh clusters in Cork judging by the reports coming out of the city this morning.