Supermacs

Sunny Disposition

McDonagh has not been slow to talk to the media over the years. . I hope every time he is interviewed in future he’ll be asked if he has stopped imposing a mandatory charge on staff for food they may not want to consume and if he still charges them for uniforms they are required to wear.

Muahahaha

Deleted User wrote: »

Garlic cheese chips are decent in there but everything else is manky.

meh their garlic and cheese chips are an exercise in Pat McDonoghs scabby portion control. It comes in one of those tiny white plastic trays which barely fit 20 max 25 chips, then has a blob of garlic sauce and barely 10 or 15 grams of that stringy cheddar cheese. By the time you're half way through it there is no garlic or cheese left. For 4 euro its a bit of a joke really.

I do like their 5oz burgers but a meal is more or less a tenner so if spending that you're much better off going to somewhere like Bunsen or Wowburger who serve a far quality of meat. Supermacs and McDonalds is all aged dairy cows you're eating, same stuff is used in dog food. At least in Bunsen you're getting proper cuts of beef from cows that were reared for beef.

YFlyer

YFlyer wrote: »

I was just talking to my new housemate. She works in Supermacs. She doesn't get paid extra for any overtime work. She got caught out doing some overtime so her boss is allowing her to work less days next week.

As far is she is aware they're not charged for the food and they can get up to €11 a day.

The uniform is approximately €75 and they pay over a 7 to 8 week period.

On a full week she says she is getting less than €350. I didn't press her on the details.

Do Versace make the uniforms???

B.A._Baracus

YFlyer wrote: »

I was just talking to my new housemate. She works in Supermacs. She doesn't get paid extra for any overtime work. She got caught out doing some overtime so her boss is allowing her to work less days next week.

As far is she is aware they're not charged for the food and they can get up to €11 a day.

The uniform is approximately €75 and they pay over a 7 to 8 week period.

On a full week she says she is getting less than €350. I didn't press her on the details.

Charging staff for uniform is a joke and it's just for the shirt right? Provide your own slacks probably as well. The neck of them.

Adyx

Aydin Obedient Bifocal wrote: »

Do Versace make the uniforms???

Hugo Boss more like.

the beer revolu

Homelander wrote: »

Where does the flaccid, steaming and microwave come into it?

They are most assuredly deep fried as they should be, and the buns are toasted in a machine like any fast food place.

And they are proper full chicken breasts that are flattened, seasoned and coated, as well.

I've had these a couple of times when stuck and they most certainly were microwaved to serve. Bread all steamy and floppy. No question about it.

the beer revolu

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Ehh sorry now but Is this supermacs you are talking about or where?

They certainly do not microwave the chicken breast - deepfried.

Resulting in succulent juicy chicken breast surrounded by a crisp seasoned batter.

This is then paired with fresh iceberg green lettuce, the sauce and the toasted buns.

I watch them like a hawk while the cooking process is taking place and can vouch for that.

Twice in Cork City, once in Heuston.
Perhaps it's an off peak thing or is staff dependent but there is no question that it was microwaved. I saw the guy taking it out of the microwave on one occasion.

Homelander

the beer revolu wrote: »

I've had these a couple of times when stuck and they most certainly were microwaved to serve. Bread all steamy and floppy. No question about it.

As someone who's a) worked in Supermacs for years and b) only ever gets the Chicken Breast Sandwich when I eat there, not once have I ever encountered that scenario and it wouldn't even make sense - why would they need to microwave something?

I think you're probably confusing steam from a fairly fresh/wrapped sandwich making the bread soft, with microwaving.

Obviously if you put a very hot fillet, with a freshly toasted bun, and wrap it, the steam from the heat will make the bun soft. There's no way around this when you're serving fast food that's wrapped in plastic/paper wrapping, especially at busy times when the food genuinely is fresher.

The fact that you actually "saw" someone on one occasion just to validate the opinion makes it even less believable.

They're deep fried regularly and stored in a hot bin, buns are toasted fresh in a toaster when needed. There is literally no scenario where they'd ever have to microwave it or that it would make sense.

I guess you never know, once off illogical practices do happen in any chain - but seemingly they microwave it every time just when you happen to be purchasing? I really don't think so.

the beer revolu

Homelander wrote: »

As someone who's a) worked in Supermacs for years and b) only ever gets the Chicken Breast Sandwich when I eat there, not once have I ever encountered that scenario and it wouldn't even make sense - why would they need to microwave something?

I think you're probably confusing steam from a fairly fresh/wrapped sandwich making the bread soft, with microwaving.

Obviously if you put a very hot fillet, with a freshly toasted bun, and wrap it, the steam from the heat will make the bun soft. There's no way around this when you're serving fast food that's wrapped in plastic/paper wrapping, especially at busy times when the food genuinely is fresher.

The fact that you actually "saw" someone on one occasion just to validate the opinion makes it even less believable.

They're deep fried regularly and stored in a hot bin, buns are toasted fresh in a toaster when needed. There is literally no scenario where they'd ever have to microwave it or that it would make sense.

I guess you never know, once off illogical practices do happen in any chain - but seemingly they microwave it every time just when you happen to be purchasing? I really don't think so.

Yes, I made it all up to seem cool.

Why in fcuks name would I do that?

YFlyer

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Charging staff for uniform is a joke and it's just for the shirt right? Provide your own slacks probably as well. The neck of them.

She mentioned about paying for shoes as well. Which is part of the €75.

FVP3

Yamanoto wrote: »

They're like the culinary wing of the GAA.

Nothing wrong with the GAA either, far less corrupt and better run than the FAI. And I am not involved in either. It's just food, it is either good or not, compared to the sludge that most fast food joints serve, in the two times I was in Supermacs it held its own.

FVP3

YFlyer wrote: »

I was just talking to my new housemate. She works in Supermacs. She doesn't get paid extra for any overtime work. She got caught out doing some overtime so her boss is allowing her to work less days next week.

As far is she is aware they're not charged for the food and they can get up to €11 a day.

The uniform is approximately €75 and they pay over a 7 to 8 week period.

On a full week she says she is getting less than €350. I didn't press her on the details.

Well less than 350 is either good or bad depending on the hours,of course.

Homelander

the beer revolu wrote: »

Yes, I made it all up to seem cool.

Why in fcuks name would I do that?

Only you can answer that one.

Bobblehats

Muahahaha wrote: »

meh their garlic and cheese chips are an exercise in Pat McDonoghs scabby portion control. It comes in one of those tiny white plastic trays which barely fit 20 max 25 chips, then has a blob of garlic sauce and barely 10 or 15 grams of that stringy cheddar cheese. By the time you're half way through it there is no garlic or cheese left. For 4 euro its a bit of a joke really.

I do like their 5oz burgers but a meal is more or less a tenner so if spending that you're much better off going to somewhere like Bunsen or Wowburger who serve a far quality of meat. Supermacs and McDonalds is all aged dairy cows you're eating, same stuff is used in dog food. At least in Bunsen you're getting proper cuts of beef from cows that were reared for beef.

I’d murder a 7oz right now. And a side of chicken tenders, what’s your opinion on those

Beechwoodspark

the beer revolu wrote: »

Twice in Cork City, once in Heuston.
Perhaps it's an off peak thing or is staff dependent but there is no question that it was microwaved. I saw the guy taking it out of the microwave on one occasion.

I’m sceptical but you say you saw them taking it out of the microwave to serve to you ...

If that happened me I would ask them to re do it the proper way or else give a full refund

the beer revolu

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’m sceptical but you say you saw them taking it out of the microwave to serve to you ...

If that happened me I would ask them to re do it the proper way or else give a full refund

Well, I didn't know how it was supposed to be prepared. Outlet was very quiet at the time - I was the only customer.
Couple of points.
1. I know food and cooking and I know when food has been microwaved. You can tell by the way the heat is distributed and by what it does to bread or pastry.
2. I saw, with my own eyes, the staff member take it out of the microwaves.

It may well be that this is not the proper method but it is 100% what happened in the Cork City outlet. It was lava hot and all floppy and horrible.

I shall not explain further.

YFlyer

FVP3 wrote: »

Well less than 350 is either good or bad depending on the hours,of course.

30 something hours a week.

Rockbeast2

"Are ye goin' ta Schhhmacc's?"

The bogtrotter battle-cry after midnight!

punisher5112

Worst food I've ever had the misfortune of buying.....

I would never ever darken their doors again.

whisky_galore

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5484372/cork-fast-food-king-dennis-cregan-supermacs/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=irishsunfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1590825536

Dino‘s advice for anyone in a similar business as him is: “Treat your staff with respect, look after them in their times of need and you will be rewarded with loyalty”.

pgj2015

McDonagh has no cop on, going to the media bitching about his employees, what has he to gain by doing so? he is becoming like the Micheal O Leary of fast food, a tight-fisted miser who no one likes. anyone who has ever worked for someone knows that if you treat your staff well, they will work hard for you, treat them like dirt and they will do as little as possible.

fleet_admiral

Blaze420 wrote: »

Spoken like a true jackeen who wouldn’t know taste if it kicked him in his diamond bejazzled ballsack :rolleyes:

Are you serious? Supermacs is absolutely disgusting. Yes I'm a Dub the fact you defend them shows maybe Dubs have a finer taste for food

fleet_admiral

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

1.3 million jackeens can't be wrong

A mere 10 **** kicker outlets opened to date in the capital

I always say the one at the spawell is there to give culchies one last taste as they leave civilisation and head back to their mud huts

Woke Hogan

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Are you serious? Supermacs is absolutely disgusting. Yes I'm a Dub the fact you defend them shows maybe Dubs have a finer taste for food

I doubt the county that gave the world the “spice burger” can claim any kind of gastronomic superiority.

ButtersSuki

I always describe myself as half-Dublin and half-Galway (city) in terms of where I grew up (parents separated and divorced etc). I’m amongst the few people who’ve spent a good deal of time in Galway and who loathe Shuper-macs. For context though, I haven’t eaten in Shuper-macs or McDonalds etc since the 90s, and have no desire to visit such a place again. I’m not their target market for sure, but it really is horrible. The only reason I’d go there when younger was the “last chance saloon” element of the Eyre Square branch or for people watching, socializing, watching the fights etc. etc. Never for the food.

JohnnyFlash

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I doubt the county that gave the world the “spice burger” can claim any kind of gastronomic superiority.

And coddle. A ‘stew’ made with potatoes and boiled sausages.

Woke Hogan

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

And coddle. A ‘stew’ made with potatoes and boiled sausages.

Coddle sounds it would be a nickname for someone from Dublin, or some sort of “inner city” juvenile disease from a lack of exposure to fresh air and vegetables.

Kat1170

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

And coddle. A ‘stew’ made with potatoes and boiled sausages.

You're going to go full Trump if you ever discover Cassoulet.

Sausage and BEANS based stew.

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

the beer revolu

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

The canteen in these companies exist purely to feed the employees and are usually subsidised.
Imagine being charged for food in the work canteen even if you didn't eat there?

Yes, many companies charge for uniforms. They are also miserable cnuts.

Siobhan82

Well of course charging for meals or uniforms is a joke.
But he definitely has a point in saying that for some it was like winning the lotto.
If you were making 80 - 100€ a week part-time before and now how you're on 350€ a week without working then for many it's looks like a win.

BENDYBINN

Siobhan82 wrote: »

Well of course charging for meals or uniforms is a joke.
But he definitely has a point in saying that for some it was like winning the lotto.
If you were making 80 - 100€ a week part-time before and now how you're on 350€ a week without working then for many it's looks like a win.

Of course it’s a win..........that’s life.
For a multimillionaire to try and stop it in order to line his own pocket is meaness and greed at it finest...

80j2lc5y7u6qs9

Siobhan82 wrote: »

Well of course charging for meals or uniforms is a joke.
But he definitely has a point in saying that for some it was like winning the lotto.
If you were making 80 - 100€ a week part-time before and now how you're on 350€ a week without working then for many it's looks like a win.

you must have a very low idea of wealth if 350 euro seems like winning the lottery

Edgware

Vita nova wrote: »

Haven't seen you on AH for a while but sure enough you would be back to call people "culchies"... thought you would have moved on / matured at this stage.

He reached that level of maturity in 2015 after his fourth year in sixth class.

fleet_admiral

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

A simple deposit scheme works well there. Fully refunded when you leave the job and return the uniform

Woke Hogan

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Central Services

fleet_admiral wrote: »

A simple deposit scheme works well there. Fully refunded when you leave the job and return the uniform

I would think that if the business is not providing lockers and changing facilities then its employees should be invoicing them for storage of uniforms. Storage at their houses.

newuser99999

Woke Hogan wrote: »

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Especially when they’re insisting on specific types of clothing. For example in Dunnes you’re only allowed wear a black dress shirt or a black half zip fleece and black dress shoes, no other type of black shoes allowed.

Woke Hogan

Woke Hogan wrote: »

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Also keep in mind a uniform is a business expense so the cost of supplying it is ultimately offset against their tax take anyway.

yabadabado

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

A work canteen isn't the same as a fast food outlet. What a strange comparison.

If a company was losing so many uniforms that it became an issue its very easy to charge for one over the first few payslips and then return the fee when an employee leaves.

Charging for uniforms is plain wrong and tight fisted.

Woke Hogan

yabadabado wrote: »

A work canteen isn't the same as a fast food outlet. What a strange comparison.

If a company was losing so many uniforms that it became an issue its very easy to charge for one over the first few payslips and then return the fee when an employee leaves.

Charging for uniforms is plain wrong and tight fisted.

They shouldn’t charge for any under any circumstances.

LuasSimon

Are all Pat McDonaghs poverty wage Supermacs back up and running ? ....our country is becoming full of minimum wage employments and their oligarch rich owners ....can’t be long before McDonagh will be flying people in from the poorest part of Bulgaria like Keelings ... he’ll be able to give them customers left overs and charge them 4 or 5 euro for them , drive up his profits and wealth further ..... Larry Goodman would be proud of his tactics .

Muahahaha

Woke Hogan wrote: »

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Its really tight stuff by McDonogh, I cant imagine the polo shirts they wear costing more than 7 or 8 euro yet he charges them every week that they work there for them. He's actually making profits off this.

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees. A mate of mine from Galway city was telling me that there is a certain breed from east Galway towns like Loughrea who are exactly like him, he said these people would put any notion of Cavan scabiness to shame.

Woke Hogan

Muahahaha wrote: »

Its really tight stuff by McDonogh, I cant imagine the polo shirts they wear costing more than 7 or 8 euro yet he charges them every week that they work there for them. He's actually making profits off this.

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees. A mate of mine from Galway city was telling me that there is a certain breed from east Galway towns like Loughrea who are exactly like him, he said these people would put any notion of Cavan scabiness to shame.

Well I’m sure they’re not all bad in Loughrea, it’s not right to tar them all with one brush. I’m growing less and less impressed with Pat McDonagh the more I hear about him, however.

yabadabado

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees.

Whats this about?

Muahahaha

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Well I’m sure they’re not all bad in Loughrea, it’s not right to tar them all with one brush. I’m growing less and less impressed with Pat McDonagh the more I hear about him, however.

no not at all, he just said there is a certain breed or set there that are really tight with money, stuff like people doing work and then them refusing to pay or dragging it out

Woke Hogan

Muahahaha wrote: »

no not at all, he just said there is a certain breed or set there that are really tight with money, stuff like people doing work and then them refusing to pay or dragging it out

Everyone I’ve known from Loughrea have been a bit of a miser as well. Tighter than a duck’s arse and grey in demeanour. And poncey. I can’t imagine there’s a lot to do there, to be honest, except keep a close eye on your purse strings.

Muahahaha

yabadabado wrote: »

Whats this about?

It was to do with the Joint Labour Agreements (JLAs) which were pay agreements for the most low paid workers in sectors like hotels or fast food restaurants. They were agreements between employers and government but were made locally county by county so could vary.

In Supermacs case (iirc) Pats employees in Kildare were getting minimum wage but time and a half for working a Sunday whereas his Dublin workers were getting time and a third for the same thing. McDonogh didnt like paying his employees a penny above minimum wage so he brought a constitutional case to the High Court and successfully argued it wasnt fair that these agreements could vary by location. The judge agreed with him so overnight those Sunday benefits were wiped out for any new employees.

It went further than that though- the High Court ruling basically overnight thrashed these Joint Labour Agreements for all new low paid employees. It gave incentive to hotels and fast food operators to sideline employees on current contracts and employ new ones on a lesser wage. In total the court ruling effected somewhere in the region of 200,000 of the lowest paid in the country.

jippo nolan

Muahahaha wrote: »

no not at all, he just said there is a certain breed or set there that are really tight with money, stuff like people doing work and then them refusing to pay or dragging it out

Some of it spread into Roscommon!

PARlance

jippo nolan wrote: »

Some of it spread into Roscommon!

Are they not just poor?