Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

FintanMcluskey

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Life is dangerous, 100% death rate.

Indeed.

Although some think we were living in Tir na nÓg before March

vid36

Good news for you anti lockdown gang.Story in the Indo tomorrow, that they are moving up most of the July openings until June 29, including the end of the travel limit and hairdressers.

FintanMcluskey

MickeyLeari wrote: »

The Taoiseach turned it into 1 metre last weekend.

It was the only leadership evident from him during the crisis.

He knew that would be media fodder, but he was willing to take the risk and portray that we need to start living again.

Ginger n Lemon

vid36 wrote: »

Good news for you anti lockdown gang.Story in the Indo tomorrow, that they are moving up most of the July openings until June 29, including the end of the travel limit and hairdressers.

Co incidence they learned of 1.91bn payout from EU just this week? That payout wont even cover 6 weeks of 350 eurs for 1m people.

It is good news but at same time its most expected news.

road_high

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

It was the only leadership evident from him during the crisis.

He knew that would be media fodder, but he was willing to take the risk and portray that we need to start living again.

Well why couldn’t be speak up- he is Taoiseach after all. He’s typical of poor leaders these days- everything is farmed out to committees and advisors rather than being decisive and being guided by logic. May as well not have the damn office

road_high

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Co incidence they learned of 1.91bn payout from EU just this week? That payout wont even cover 6 weeks of 350 eurs for 1m people.

It is good news but at same time its most expected news.

We got a few crumbs- clearly our lot have been off the ball out in Brussels. The excuse is we “are too rich” to need anymore.

Ginger n Lemon

road_high wrote: »

We got a few crumbs- clearly our lot have been off the ball out in Brussels. The excuse is we “are too rich” to need anymore.

In fairness our plan of lifting lockdown is the slowest in europe (also d world?). Can make a case that even 1.91/750 is too generous given the non existent min for finance we have who ll end up paying more money w covid payments to 200,000 people than wat they wud earn working in their daily jobs.

road_high

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

In fairness our plan of lifting lockdown is the slowest in europe (also d world?). Can make a case that even 1.91/750 is too generous given the non existent min for finance we have who ll end up paying more money w covid payments to 200,000 people than wat they wud earn working in their daily jobs.

Sadly we’ll need the money worse than anyone given the ridiculous lockdown here. Donohoe is a wet blanket alright, useless

FintanMcluskey

road_high wrote: »

Well why couldn’t be speak up- he is Taoiseach after all. He’s typical of poor leaders these days- everything is farmed out to committees and advisors rather than being decisive and being guided by logic. May as well not have the damn office

To be fair to him he has emitted a few soundbites re school etc, but then went quiet. All responsibility is farmed out to committees where nobody is accountable like that fcuking NPHET bolix.

I've used the term leadership quite generously when referring to Leo, he seems to quiver when Tony H calls him to heel.

Where has the debate gone? All opposition has burrowed up

PTH2009

vid36 wrote: »

Good news for you anti lockdown gang.Story in the Indo tomorrow, that they are moving up most of the July openings until June 29, including the end of the travel limit and hairdressers.

until June 29th ???

road_high

PTH2009 wrote: »

until June 29th ???

Indeed, still ridiculous

Penfailed

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Really? It gave me a sore throat. Life flashed before my eyes.

That's not one of the symptoms.

Warbeastrior

FintanMcluskey wrote:

You mean you don't agree with the rhetoric and have absolutely nothing of substance to counter argue with.

road_high wrote:

Is that because people have a different opinion to you? Imagine that

I'm more than happy to debate. It's the petty smart arse replies on a topic that involves public health that make this toxic.

PTH2009

road_high wrote: »

Indeed, still ridiculous

im confused so were going as planned with phase 3 starting on the 29th June and phases 4/5 will be in July now ??

FintanMcluskey

road_high wrote: »

Indeed, still ridiculous

Maybe its not, my granny was always superstitious about June 28th!

growleaves

Penfailed wrote: »

That's not one of the symptoms.

The WHO lists sore throat under "Less common symptoms" on their official web site.

growleaves

vid36 wrote: »

Good news for you anti lockdown gang.Story in the Indo tomorrow, that they are moving up most of the July openings until June 29, including the end of the travel limit and hairdressers.

Will the people who were dead set against earlier re-opening now re-direct their passionate anger against the Government?

FintanMcluskey

Warbeastrior wrote: »

I'm more than happy to debate. It's the petty smart arse replies on a topic that involves public health that make this toxic.

Ok fair enough.

The argument seems to be that the public health effects directly attributed the restrictions will be exponentially worse than than Covid among the general population.

What would you say to this, remembering that Sweden hasn't exactly witnessed fatalities similar to week 1 in the Somme?

Penfailed

growleaves wrote: »

The WHO lists sore throat under "Less common symptoms" on their official web site.

I meant the 'life flashing before his eyes' bit.

Arghus

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Ok fair enough.

The argument seems to be that the public health effects directly attributed the restrictions will be exponentially worse than than Covid among the general population.

What would you say to this, remembering that Sweden hasn't exactly witnessed fatalities similar to week 1 in the Somme?

Would you have preferred if there were never any restrictions put in place?

Charles Babbage

And if it weren’t for the alligators
I’d sleep out in the wood

Warbeastrior

FintanMcluskey wrote:

The argument seems to be that the public health effects directly attributed the restrictions will be exponentially worse than than Covid among the general population.

I totally get that but what I'm referring to is the stupidity regarding the guidelines.
Like people can still socialise but still have the common decency to try a little too social distance etc. Like I'm seeing people literally on top of each other all over my social media. It's needless.
I don't have much of an opinion on the coming weeks or changing guidelines etc as I'm no expert. I'm not saying we need to stay in lockdown for the foreseeable future.
However, we have been given certain rules to try and drastically slow the spread of the virus to help our most vulnerable and frontline workers which I feel should be adhered to.

Jayesdiem

Penfailed wrote: »

I meant the 'light flashing before his eyes' bit.

Reread it. My “life”. The sore throat made me feel my life was in danger except it didn’t.

FintanMcluskey

Arghus wrote: »

Would you have preferred if there were never any restrictions put in place?

No I'm very much in favour of social distancing and mask wearing.

What do you think of what Ireland are doing Argus?

Do ya think the education catastrophe was required?

growleaves

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Arghus

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No I'm very much in favour of social distancing and mask wearing.

What do you think of what Ireland are doing Argus?

Do ya think the education catastrophe was required?

So you don't think restrictions had any bearing on curbing the spread of the virus?

road_high

Warbeastrior wrote: »

I'm more than happy to debate. It's the petty smart arse replies on a topic that involves public health that make this toxic.

Doesn’t sound like you are happy to do that be honest.

road_high

Arghus wrote: »

So you don't think restrictions had any bearing on curbing the spread of the virus?

Very little. Especially when you consider how poor the case load has been in nursing and healthcare facilities.

Arghus

road_high wrote: »

Very little. Especially when you consider how poor the case load has been in nursing and healthcare facilities.

Well, then, I guess we just disagree.

Warbeastrior

road_high wrote:

Doesn’t sound like you are happy to do that be honest.

Your assumption is incorrect.