Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

MickeyLeari

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MickeyLeari wrote: »

They messed up on face masks. (Although I think more people are Now wearing them)

And I think they put an unnecessary focus on foreign travel while they should have focused more on personal behaviour including far stronger condemnation of those House parties.

Really ? While plane loads of Americans fly in, from the most infected country on the planet and those travelers are now driving around the Wild Atlantic Way on their holidays ? I met some in Kerry at the weekend , no quarantine. They said they are escaping the US as “Covid is out of control “ there !!!

MickeyLeari

Deleted User wrote: »

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Really ? While plane loads of Americans fly in, from the most infected country on the planet and those travelers are now driving around the Wild Atlantic Way on their holidays ? I met some in Kerry at the weekend , no quarantine. They said they are escaping the US as “Covid is out of control “ there !!!

I am talking about travel by people who live in Ireland to other relatively safe EU countries. They are saying nothing on the Americans.

TaurenDruid

Deleted User wrote: »

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Really ? While plane loads of Americans fly in, from the most infected country on the planet and those travelers are now driving around the Wild Atlantic Way on their holidays ? I met some in Kerry at the weekend , no quarantine. They said they are escaping the US as “Covid is out of control “ there !!!

Why did you put yourself at risk talking to them?

Think it's time to revive an old Irish tradition - the boycott. American accent? Been here less than a fortnight? Then FRO out of my premises, you're not getting served.

Polar101

average_runner wrote: »

The Baltic regions are seeing a second surge with cases now(not calling its second wave as too early). Wonder will we see a second surge, if we do it be well into August.

Do you mean the Balkans? I don't see anything happening in the Baltics.

Calvin001

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Why did you put yourself at risk talking to them?

Think it's time to revive an old Irish tradition - the boycott. American accent? Been here less than a fortnight? Then FRO out of my premises, you're not getting served.

Fine and quarantine the hotels and travel companies putting these people up and bringing them into the country. Have we learned nothing from new zealand on how to eliminate this Covid?

If you put a hotel into a 4 week quarantine and insist on a full clean every time they have a us guest, they wont be long refusing these guests. If American tourists have nowhere to stay, they wont be long staying at home.

they wont wear masks, wont self isolate, just want to spread their germs..... :mad::mad:

Penfailed

Over twenty four hours since the last post in this thread. It would appear that the restrictions have eased so much that there's nothing to post about any more. I'll be going to the cinema tomorrow night for the first time in about five months.

ixoy

Penfailed wrote: »

Over twenty four hours since the last post in this thread. It would appear that the restrictions have eased so much that there's nothing to post about any more. I'll be going to the cinema tomorrow night for the first time in about five months.

I'm heading into town for the first time tomorrow since March to go out for some food. Sounds good to be able to say these things again doesn't it!

MickeyLeari

Penfailed wrote: »

Over twenty four hours since the last post in this thread. It would appear that the restrictions have eased so much that there's nothing to post about any more. I'll be going to the cinema tomorrow night for the first time in about five months.

Have a great time. And would welcome
feedback on your experience. I have not been to the cinema since the screen was knocked down but with this weather it would be a nice change from looking at the rain.

bb1234567

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Nah. No interest in feeling like an extra on the set of 12 Monkeys and frankly it’s none of their business who I am or what my phone number is. Not their fault as another poster said and I genuinely feel for them as their businesses are flushed down the toilet by civil serpent doom goblins. Less tables inevitably means less covers, a lot of them are going under, the novelty of being able to eat out is wearing off already.

And you are the one who accused restaurant staff of creating paranoid environments in an earlier post ? Was that deliberately ironic..

I've had enjoyable experiences in several restaurants and cafes that appeared to be making perfectly adequate levels of business. You really are creating huge issues in your mind that don't exist luckily.

MOR316

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Have a great time. And would welcome
feedback on your experience. I have not been to the cinema since the screen was knocked down but with this weather it would be a nice change from looking at the rain.

Was at the cinema on Sunday myself.

Nothing has changed really, just the obvious. Protective glassing at the counters, social distancing markers etc.

A few people about but, not many in the screens so rows of seats between people

Penfailed

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Have a great time. And would welcome
feedback on your experience.

I'll let you know how I get on. It's a one screen local cinema and I've heard that numbers have been restricted. It's never busy so I don't think that will be an issue.

Damiencm

Penfailed wrote:

I went out and had a meal tonight. I didn't notice much difference from before...apart from all the staff wearing masks. It was a pleasant experience.

I have been to several cafes and restaurants over the past 2 weeks. Absolutely no staff were wearing face coverings and the wait staff were well within a metre when taking orders etc.

PTH2009

nothing pointing towards 'wet pubs' opening from next Monday :(

What else is due for Phase 4

stephenjmcd

PTH2009 wrote: »

nothing pointing towards 'wet pubs' opening from next Monday :(

What else is due for Phase 4

Leo seems to think we're good to go

https://www.thejournal.ie/phase-four-leo-varadkar-5150164-Jul2020/

PTH2009

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Leo seems to think we're good to go

https://www.thejournal.ie/phase-four-leo-varadkar-5150164-Jul2020/

hope so but think MM is more likely to trust 'Health officials' who are not interested in the economy of the it all and would feel safer with them shut esp with a bank holiday weekend on the horizon

is_that_so

Damiencm wrote: »

I have been to several cafes and restaurants over the past 2 weeks. Absolutely no staff were wearing face coverings and the wait staff were well within a metre when taking orders etc.

Are you sick now?

is_that_so

PTH2009 wrote: »

hope so but think MM is more likely to trust 'Health officials' who are not interested in the economy of the it all and would feel safer with them shut esp with a bank holiday weekend on the horizon

Isn't it amusing that we'd take the opinion of a minister over the Taoiseach! Probably his last big pronouncement on all of this

Penfailed

PTH2009 wrote: »

nothing pointing towards 'wet pubs' opening from next Monday :(

What else is due for Phase 4

Nothing pointing towards them staying closed either.

AdamD

PTH2009 wrote: »

hope so but think MM is more likely to trust 'Health officials' who are not interested in the economy of the it all and would feel safer with them shut esp with a bank holiday weekend on the horizon

Jesus, thought we were beyond this crap. If pubs are closed for the bank holidays it'll just be house parties, people are socialising now, you won't stop it.

Damiencm

is_that_so wrote:

Are you sick now?

I'm not and I accept one would be unlucky as a customer to pick up something directly from a member of staff in such a short time period.

But what about the staff member who has dozens of these interactions every day and hundreds every week? Perhaps they catch an unlucky break.

Is there also a 'confidence trick' here? Maybe it's only me but I would feel safer and more likely to return to a cafe where staff wear face coverings.

gral6

AdamD wrote: »

it'll just be house parties, people are socialising now, you won't stop it.

What's wrong with that? It is a human nature, you'll not be able to put people in the cell for the rest of their lives

CruelSummer

I think it’s becoming clearer by the day that Ireland needs FG in power at this moment in time. Leo is a much more able leader who took on board the situation and got the reopening to where it is now. Without their decisions to move forward, we’d still only be in a 20km zone and nothing of note reopening until July 20th or August 10th. I’ve enjoyed being back out and about in the world, despite the protocols in place. I think businesses are welcoming feedback at this point in time as to how consumers are finding their new normal experience.
I think the vilification of families who were considering a break to the sun was absolutely shameful. All the while citizens from the US and other red zones were allowed to enter here.
The government should have provided up to date advice and allowed travel within the EU. It also should have insisted that airlines allow a free flight change to its passengers if flights fall on days where a non-essential travel advisory is in place. They did nothing to protect the Irish public and everything to protect themselves.

It doesn’t bode well for the coming months when clear decisive action needs to be taken re schools, childcare, businesses, etc and be subject to change and quick reactions to an ever changing environment. Not this dithering and no mans land. It won’t get us anywhere.

TaurenDruid

CruelSummer wrote: »

I think it’s becoming clearer by the day that Ireland needs FG in power at this moment in time. Leo is a much more able leader who took on board the situation and got the reopening to where it is now. Without their decisions to move forward, we’d still only be in a 20km zone and nothing of note reopening until July 20th or August 10th. I’ve enjoyed being back out and about in the world, despite the protocols in place. I think businesses are welcoming feedback at this point in time as to how consumers are finding their new normal experience.
I think the vilification of families who were considering a break to the sun was absolutely shameful. All the while citizens from the US and other red zones were allowed to enter here.
The government should have provided up to date advice and allowed travel within the EU. It also should have insisted that airlines allow a free flight change to its passengers if flights fall on days where a non-essential travel advisory is in place. They did nothing to protect the Irish public and everything to protect themselves.

It doesn’t bode well for the coming months when clear decisive action needs to be taken re schools, childcare, businesses, etc and be subject to change and quick reactions to an ever changing environment. Not this dithering and no mans land. It won’t get us anywhere.

What a bizarre post!

"I think it’s becoming clearer by the day that Ireland needs FG in power at this moment in time", and then you list a load of problems that were all well flagged when FG were in power, even listing all the things that weren't done by them when they had the chance.

So - why should they be back in power?!

CruelSummer

TaurenDruid wrote: »

What a bizarre post!

"I think it’s becoming clearer by the day that Ireland needs FG in power at this moment in time", and then you list a load of problems that were all well flagged when FG were in power, even listing all the things that weren't done by them when they had the chance.

So - why should they be back in power?!

It’s not bizarre and your answer to your question is in my previous post. I’ve spoken to many people over the last few days that have said this to me. They wouldn’t be FG voters usually.
Our new Government’s first week or two in charge has involved vilifying families with holiday bookings without actually doing anything to help them, now twisting the knife on pubs which might actually control some of the many many house parties taking place, and running a soap box about Barry Cowen and his convictions - FYI this is a national crisis and nobody cares, get on with the job or get out.

Polar101

Penfailed wrote: »

Nothing pointing towards them staying closed either.

Yeah, at the moment the infections aren't out of control. So I don't see why they wouldn't move forward according to the plan. I don't think there's a lot of difference in "pubs open" and "pubs open, but you have to eat for €9" anyway.

vid36

Polar101 wrote: »

Yeah, at the moment the infections aren't out of control. So I don't see why they wouldn't move forward according to the plan. I don't think there's a lot of difference in "pubs open" and "pubs open, but you have to eat for €9" anyway.

Capacity is restricted if people have to order food.

TaurenDruid

CruelSummer wrote: »

It’s not bizarre and your answer to your question is in my previous post. I’ve spoken to many people over the last few days that have said this to me. They wouldn’t be FG voters usually.
Our new Government’s first week or two in charge has involved vilifying families with holiday bookings without actually doing anything to help them, now twisting the knife on pubs which might actually control some of the many many house parties taking place, and running a soap box about Barry Cowen and his convictions - FYI this is a national crisis and nobody cares, get on with the job or get out.

Eh, no, it isn't... all of that was going on when FG were in power. Like, it was literally the other week! And they did nothing.

"Twisting the knife on pubs" - what?! For the record, as reported, many pubs decided "**** the national crisis, let's sell booze!" and did so, without following the fairly reasonable guidelines. Hence sudden uptick in numbers and R number, especially in under 45s, hence anyone with a modicum of sense going yeah, maybe hang back some more on opening pubs if this is the result... including NPHET, who advise the government, regardless of whether that's FF or FG.

Idbatterim

riclad wrote: »

I passed a small cafe today. There was maybe 10 customers sitting inside, right beside each other. No social distancing at all. I think many young people think they cannot get it.
I think people are getting complacent.
It seems to be up to the owner, if there's room
outside they put tables and chairs outside and leave some space between each table.
It's ok but this is not going to practical when it gets cold in the winter.
I think it ll be hard to expect people to social distance in a pub once they start drinking
The cafes I passed this week are doing good business some people sit inside, most people sit outside if they have outside tables

I'm sure they know they can get it, they likely don't care because it will do nothing to them In the vast vast majority of cases...

Dickie10

as a FF member im appalled at the start to government, micheal is like a rabbit in headlights at the minute, absolutely nothing from him,if this is what its going to be like FF will be wiped out in next election again. I dont know but it looks like chaos town on horizon with schools and everything . i dont see the problem at all with pubs, how long ago is it now that tony H, referred to the gangs drinking on the canal? wheres the wave ? its a safer option to open all pubs and keep the public on side , if they renage on this there will be no buy in at all form the public, when the place is full of USA and UK residents. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now , just contain it should be the way forward. i genuinely am seeing each day this vilification of pubs i dont know where its coming from or why.

Idbatterim

AdamD wrote: »

Jesus, thought we were beyond this crap. If pubs are closed for the bank holidays it'll just be house parties, people are socialising now, you won't stop it.

Yeah the last two weekends , I've been to small ish gatherings to celebrate events, rented place on airbnb. If they think k people will reach suicide levels of depression before going out to socialise. The morons in nphet in government are even bigger morons than I thought.

Let's look at this rationally, a vaccine could be years. There will be serious damage from the fall out on a mental health , suicide and economic cost compounding mental health issues etc...

Allowing Americans into the country is insane ! I would happy enough give up foreign travel and get back to nearly normal here! Put potential hundreds of thousands of jobs past the point if no return and try to kill socialing again? What so some absolutely drop in the ocean can be spent here by some tourists?

We have no leadership or vision here and those elected fo the dail are universal clowns. Can you see one of them banning travel to the us?

And we can kill our own domestic economy in the process?

Idbatterim

CruelSummer wrote: »

I think it’s becoming clearer by the day that Ireland needs FG in power at this moment in time. Leo is a much more able leader who took on board the situation and got the reopening to where it is now. Without their decisions to move forward, we’d still only be in a 20km zone and nothing of note reopening until July 20th or August 10th. I’ve enjoyed being back out and about in the world, despite the protocols in place. I think businesses are welcoming feedback at this point in time as to how consumers are finding their new normal experience.
I think the vilification of families who were considering a break to the sun was absolutely shameful. All the while citizens from the US and other red zones were allowed to enter here.
The government should have provided up to date advice and allowed travel within the EU. It also should have insisted that airlines allow a free flight change to its passengers if flights fall on days where a non-essential travel advisory is in place. They did nothing to protect the Irish public and everything to protect themselves.

It doesn’t bode well for the coming months when clear decisive action needs to be taken re schools, childcare, businesses, etc and be subject to change and quick reactions to an ever changing environment. Not this dithering and no mans land. It won’t get us anywhere.

I'm sorry ?,you expect clear decisive action from the fg that were wiped out in the election after years of inaction? Varadkar is a spoofing fool!

We may have schools shut in September and other insanity... and why? Because of a few tourists? Who do you blame more? The tourists or our elected morons here who are meant to be looking after the interest of the Irish people?

But that's what you get with a populist, spineless windbag like varadkar. They wouldnt want to upset their american overlords...

You are right about the need for clear decisions and action. Some pubs arent even reopening on the 20th as they say government are so vague on guidance. Months into this crisis...

The biggest issue here though is and I said it back when this thread started, they always look for the easy way out here, hence most things are a joke in this country. There is no easy way out of this and way to avoid making decisions, you despicable traitor clowns!

Idbatterim

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/setback-to-pub-reopening-plans-as-health-chiefs-warns-against-moving-into-phase-four-next-week-39368357.html

PTH2009

Idbatterim wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/setback-to-pub-reopening-plans-as-health-chiefs-warns-against-moving-into-phase-four-next-week-39368357.html

Nothing stopping late bars in that sanario

I imagine its going back to normal licensing open hours

Airyfairy12

The country was locked down and schools shut after a total of 34 cases confirmed. Yesterday there where 32 cases in 1 day, 100 cases in 1 week and theyre continuing with reopening the country, allowing international travel from high risk countries and not following the advice of medical experts. The new government have left the public high and dry, Michael martin might as well be Boris Johnson. We're a sinking ship.
Well done FF and FG voters!

Pete_Cavan

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

The country was locked down and schools shut after a total of 34 cases confirmed. Yesterday there where 32 cases in 1 day, 100 cases in 1 week and theyre continuing with reopening the country, allowing international travel from high risk countries and not following the advice of medical experts. The new government have left the public high and dry, Michael martin might as well be Boris Johnson. We're a sinking ship.
Well done FF and FG voters!

he country was locked down and schools shut when we had unquantitfied and uncontrolled spread of a new virus which we had little knowledge of and were not prepared for. Now we have a small number of active cases, we have a lot of knowledge on the virus and how to treat it, large stockpiles of PPE and surge plans in hospitals, a contact tracing system and app, huge public awareness of the need for social distancing and handwashing etc, significant WFH, capacity limitations in public interact businesses and ban on large gatherings. Even the international travel you refer to is only a fraction of what it was in March. Drawing comparisons between now and when lockdown started is nonsense, the situation is completely different to what it was in March.

Don't be getting so high and mighty when making ridiculous statements on the basis of two numbers looking similar.

prunudo

When they closed the schools we still had thousands returning from skiing trips, Cheltenham etc, all the while offices were full of people working in close proximity. Socailising was still normal and testing/contact tracing was non existent. None of these cases had surfaced yet. You cannot compare the 34 cases in March to yeaterdays 32.

is_that_so

Dickie10 wrote: »

as a FF member im appalled at the start to government, micheal is like a rabbit in headlights at the minute, absolutely nothing from him,if this is what its going to be like FF will be wiped out in next election again. I dont know but it looks like chaos town on horizon with schools and everything . i dont see the problem at all with pubs, how long ago is it now that tony H, referred to the gangs drinking on the canal? wheres the wave ? its a safer option to open all pubs and keep the public on side , if they renage on this there will be no buy in at all form the public, when the place is full of USA and UK residents. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now , just contain it should be the way forward. i genuinely am seeing each day this vilification of pubs i dont know where its coming from or why.

The FF side of government has been poor but I'd give them a small out in that you can't just get up and running when you haven't been in normal functioning government in well over a decade. Having to dump someone so fast is not a good sign either. As for pubs, well they're just the latest in a very long line of things to be blamed, most for no good reason. I think they want to do it right and see the risk in not doing so, especially in finances. Like other phases I don't think we'll see an enormous surge.

average_runner

Idbatterim wrote: »

I'm sure they know they can get it, they likely don't care because it will do nothing to them In the vast vast majority of cases...

But be first to moan if a love one dies from it or they cant get treatment in a hospital

average_runner

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

The country was locked down and schools shut after a total of 34 cases confirmed. Yesterday there where 32 cases in 1 day, 100 cases in 1 week and theyre continuing with reopening the country, allowing international travel from high risk countries and not following the advice of medical experts. The new government have left the public high and dry, Michael martin might as well be Boris Johnson. We're a sinking ship.
Well done FF and FG voters!

Big difference between march and now. We know more about it and people are aware of it.

We didnt know how many cases were actually around at beginning of march

gral6

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

The country was locked down and schools shut after a total of 34 cases confirmed. Yesterday there where 32 cases in 1 day, 100 cases in 1 week and theyre continuing with reopening the country, allowing international travel from high risk countries and not following the advice of medical experts. The new government have left the public high and dry, Michael martin might as well be Boris Johnson. We're a sinking ship.
Well done FF and FG voters!

Do you think that the EU will be giving you food voucher for 350 p/w indefinitely? Come out of your shell, it is time to pay back the Bill now !

Damiencm

Airyfairy12 wrote:

The country was locked down and schools shut after a total of 34 cases confirmed. Yesterday there where 32 cases in 1 day, 100 cases in 1 week and theyre continuing with reopening the country, allowing international travel from high risk countries and not following the advice of medical experts. The new government have left the public high and dry, Michael martin might as well be Boris Johnson. We're a sinking ship. Well done FF and FG voters!

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facehugger99

Remember back when the idea of lockdown was floated?

It was never supposed to be any more than a crude device to buy the health service more time to get procedures, practices and services up and running to deal with the virus.

It is such a blunt tool and the economic devastation it wrought meant it could only be a stopgap measure.

What I would like to know is how in the name of fcuk it has been allowed to drag on for months now?

We are still paying hundreds of thousands of people the "emergency" payment and large swades of the economy are either shut down or have such crippling restrictions that they cannot profitably open.

Somehow the idea has become implanted in people's heads that the lockdown is the tool by which we eradicate the virus - this is patently nonsense. Barring a vaccine in the next 6 months (likely impossible), the ability of the virus to outlast our economic ability to stay in lockdown is guaranteed.

So why the fcuk are we persisting with this nonsense?

Why are the politicians and bureaucrats trying to shift focus to people going on holidays rather than having people questioning what the fcuk we've been doing with our health service in the last 4 months - I'll let ye answer that one.

The current situation is a complete farce and the useful idiots that the government have pompously wagging their fingers at those traveling abroad are being played for fools.

feelings

Should we all have voted for Mary 'I haven't bothered to download the app yet' Lou? Give us a break. :rolleyes:

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

The country was locked down and schools shut after a total of 34 cases confirmed. Yesterday there where 32 cases in 1 day, 100 cases in 1 week and theyre continuing with reopening the country, allowing international travel from high risk countries and not following the advice of medical experts. The new government have left the public high and dry, Michael martin might as well be Boris Johnson. We're a sinking ship.
Well done FF and FG voters!

Idbatterim

Great post facehugger. It's like one new case or death is one too many , kill everything eise to prevent it. Must be something perverted in the irish psyche, we have to be the " good boys " when all you have is the government propaganda piece telling everyone government and nphet is doing a great job, im not surprised the masses are brainwashed...

This thread had died down for quite some time but it feels like we are about go back to how it was in May!

With just 10 people in ICU and 20 odd cases a day from close to 10000 tests, it is absolutely outrageous to even consider that pubs can't reopen. These pubs have been forced to close for a third of a year now. They deserve honest answers at this point. We've all had enough of this "not there yet" nonsense.

We have almost doubled the number of tests we are carrying out over the last 2 weeks or so. This is the reason that the cases have increased a small bit. The positivity rate of tests is still 0.3%.

There appears to be little to no mention of the increase in tests though. Why?
They want people to believe that relaxing restrictions is causing an increase when clearly it hasn't.

rob316

Deleted User wrote: »

This thread had died down for quite some time but it feels like we are about go back to how it was in May!

With just 10 people in ICU and 20 odd cases a day from close to 10000 tests, it is absolutely outrageous to even consider that pubs can't reopen. These pubs have been forced to close for a third of a year now. They deserve honest answers at this point. We've all had enough of this "not there yet" nonsense.

We have almost doubled the number of tests we are carrying out over the last 2 weeks or so. This is the reason that the cases have increased a small bit. The positivity rate of tests is still 0.3%.

There appears to be little to no mention of the increase in tests though. Why?
They want people to believe that relaxing restrictions is causing an increase when clearly it hasn't.

The media love to pedal misery. You only have to look at how the weather is reported now, everything is warning this, warning that, for just a bit of rain.

Doctor Jimbob

Deleted User wrote: »

This thread had died down for quite some time but it feels like we are about go back to how it was in May!

With just 10 people in ICU and 20 odd cases a day from close to 10000 tests, it is absolutely outrageous to even consider that pubs can't reopen. These pubs have been forced to close for a third of a year now. They deserve honest answers at this point. We've all had enough of this "not there yet" nonsense.

We have almost doubled the number of tests we are carrying out over the last 2 weeks or so. This is the reason that the cases have increased a small bit. The positivity rate of tests is still 0.3%.

There appears to be little to no mention of the increase in tests though. Why?
They want people to believe that relaxing restrictions is causing an increase when clearly it hasn't.

I don't think there's any real threat of the pubs not opening. Seems to be a case of the media putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. All they've said to back it up is NPHET are concerned about the numbers - this isn't new, they've been concerned every week, including before previous reopenings.

Doctor Jimbob

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I don't think there's any real threat of the pubs not opening. Seems to be a case of the media putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. All they've said to back it up is NPHET are concerned about the numbers - this isn't new, they've been concerned every week, including before previous reopenings.

Hopefully so.

rob316

NPHET are always concerned. Its their job to be concerned about the public health, but there is other as important economic considerations.

facehugger99

rob316 wrote: »

The media love to pedal misery. You only have to look at how the weather is reported now, everything is warning this, warning that, for just a bit of rain.

In this country there has been a complete dereliction of duty by the media.

One only has to compare the BBC website with RTE's to see how striking the difference has been on the reporting of the virus.

Across the water, time and space are actually dedicated to a more holistic view of the virus, including the economic repercussions. RTE do nothing but peddle fear and provide a platform for the most hysterical viewpoints.

You will need to go searching to see what the ICU admission rate is but by God they will splash positive test results as the top headline - it matters not a fcuk that for the vast majority of people, the symptoms are either mild or non-existent.