General Premier League Thread 2019-20 #Mod Notes First post [Updated 24/07/20]

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All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Miguel Delaney has stated that UEFA have sent their 'A' legal team for this one and are quite bullish on this case. Be interesting anyway. I have no respect for clubs like City or PSG. Will be disgusted to see Newcastle go that way too.

I agree, but given the close ties between the UK and Saudi Arabia already, it's bit much to ask the PL to make a moral decision when the UK government itself is in bed with the regime.
There was a "top 4", now there's a "top 6" and having a "top 7" is probably appealing to the PL big wigs.

.G.

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Anyone know if there is a live feed or even live twitter updates of the case?

@sportingintel, @robharris and @tariqpanja are always good for reporting of these sorts of things.

Trigger

Trigger wrote: »

Has the Newcaste takeover been ratified yet? Wouldnt be surprised so see Mike Ashley pull out at the last moment

Why would Ashley pull out? The other side maybe, but Ashley I assume should make money from this deal?

Guy:Incognito

6 wrote: »

Why would Ashley pull out? The other side maybe, but Ashley I assume should make money from this deal?

How many times have they been "about to be bought" over the last few years?

~Rebel~

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How many times have they been "about to be bought" over the last few years?

Been lots of buyers alright, but none ever matched Ashley’s valuation. This is the first time one has.

The issue here though is the buyers may be blocked by the league. Not because they’re genocidal, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, refugee starving murderers, but because they also actively pirate football coverage on a large scale.

It’ll all come down to that... most likely outcome is probably that their pirate network, BeOutQ, will be shut down and the buyout will go ahead, but we just have to wait and see.

TitianGerm

Trigger wrote: »

Has the Newcaste takeover been ratified yet? Wouldnt be surprised so see Mike Ashley pull out at the last moment

Was supposed to been held up over the Saudis illegally streaming the PL. Mad that that's something that's flagged on a fit and proper test and not the awful human rights violations.

Agent Coulson

Listening to one of the pods tonight and they were saying on June 1st Newcastle once again took direct debit payments off season ticket holders for next season even after the outrage of doing it the first time during the pandemic they went ahead and did it again.

pjohnson

Any word of any updated squads for this season? Anyone released/loan ended etc. And will players returning from loan spells be eligible for their parent clubs?

8-10

pjohnson wrote: »

Any word of any updated squads for this season? Anyone released/loan ended etc. And will players returning from loan spells be eligible for their parent clubs?

I know Loris Karius for instance can't train with Liverpool yet as even though his loan contract was terminated, he can't register for his parent club until the window opens and he can't play for Liverpool this season (I know he wouldn't anyway but just using the example). It's the same with Alexis Sanchez and Chris Smalling if their loans end without being extended, they can't play. Same with any returning loan player so the majority of the time they're being extended, Victor Moses another one.

Also with Liverpool, Harry Wilson has extended his Bournemouth loan and Adam Lallana has signed a 1 month contract extension so both will finish the season with the teams they played for before this all started. Nathaniel Clyne however, is expected to be released before July. Brewster should stay with Swansea in another loan extension.

Tomas Soucek also extended with West Ham, Ighalo extended with United. Sidibe is likely to extend loan at Everton

Fitz*

pjohnson wrote: »

Any word of any updated squads for this season? Anyone released/loan ended etc. And will players returning from loan spells be eligible for their parent clubs?

Players can only play for the club they are registered with. So for example Danny Rose can only play for Newcastle, it doesn't matter if his loan is extended or not, he cannot play for Spurs.

The only proposed exceptions are the likes of Tom Heaton who was registered to play in the Premier League with Aston Villa for the 1st half of the season but left out of the 2nd squad due to injury. Aston Villa still hold his registration to play.

~Rebel~

Just realised we’re a week away from the PL returning. A week! That’s, like, a normal amount of time to wait for a game!

~Rebel~

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Just realised we’re a week away from the PL returning. A week! That’s, like, a normal amount of time to wait for a game!

I've the Friday booked off and told the missus to leave the house

Rock77

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've the Friday booked off and told the missus to leave the house

For good or just til the end of the season?

Rock77

Rock77 wrote: »

For good or just til the end of the season?

Thinking about it

Shanotheslayer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've the Friday booked off and told the missus to leave the house

A few Tom Hanks on Friday night after the football so :pac:

5starpool

Deleted User wrote: »

Thinking about it

Let us know if it works, and if the deal includes kids or not.

Been a while since I could look forward to a new episode of AFTV

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2020/06/10/lord-have-mercy-on-us-these-arsenal-fans-react-to-3-2-friendly-defeat-to-championship-side-brentford/

5starpool

5starpool wrote: »

Let us know if it works, and if the deal includes kids or not.

Confirmed as part of the deal

5starpool

Deleted User wrote: »

Confirmed as part of the deal

I might hire you to be my negotiator.

Agent Coulson

Dele Alli has been given a one match ban from a social media post at the start of the pandemic when he mocked the Asian community.

theoneeyedman

Some BS from the EPL, with political slogans and emblems on the shirts front and back next week.
I've no problem with the Black Lives Matter movement, but IMHO a big mistake putting emblems and slogans on the shirts, enough politics mixing up with sport already, and after this any campaign can justifiably say 'well why can't we have our logo and message on the shirts'.

Shanotheslayer

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Some BS from the EPL, with political slogans and emblems on the shirts front and back next week.
I've no problem with the Black Lives Matter movement, but IMHO a big mistake putting emblems and slogans on the shirts, enough politics mixing up with sport already, and after this any campaign can justifiably say 'well why can't we have our logo and message on the shirts'.

I wouldn't consider BLM political...?

Fitz*

It's the players that want to do it, so let them.

Guy:Incognito

"The 24-year-old posted a video of himself wearing a mask in an airport lounge on 6 February before zooming in on an Asian man, with the caption "Corona whattttt, please listen with volume".

The video was promptly deleted and Alli posted an apology, but not before one of the 160 recipients on his close friends list on Snapchat had copied it and sold it to a national newspaper. "

Going to guess Alli isnt one of the Mensa level footballers. Any famous person like that should know better than to have a 160 person "close friends" list.

Mushy

NBC coverage will have piped in noise from EA anyway, with option to opt out via digital channels. One for people to look out for if watching via streams.

https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1271157080066588673?s=20

Mitch Connor

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

"The 24-year-old posted a video of himself wearing a mask in an airport lounge on 6 February before zooming in on an Asian man, with the caption "Corona whattttt, please listen with volume".

The video was promptly deleted and Alli posted an apology, but not before one of the 160 recipients on his close friends list on Snapchat had copied it and sold it to a national newspaper. "

Going to guess Alli isnt one of the Mensa level footballers. Any famous person like that should know better than to have a 160 person "close friends" list.

It was.... Rebecka Vardy!

(it probably was not...)

5starpool

Mushy wrote: »

NBC coverage will have piped in noise from EA anyway, with option to opt out via digital channels. One for people to look out for if watching via streams.

https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1271157080066588673?s=20

I wonder has anyone considered filling in the seats digitally as well to fake a crowd to go along with the noise? Would they need to clubs to essentially green screen the seats for this to be possible (which I doubt will happen) or could it be attempted anyhow I wonder? Just musing, obviously.

8-10

5starpool wrote: »

I wonder has anyone considered filling in the seats digitally as well to fake a crowd to go along with the noise? Would they need to clubs to essentially green screen the seats for this to be possible (which I doubt will happen) or could it be attempted anyhow I wonder? Just musing, obviously.

They did that at the Sevilla v Betis game last night using computer game crowd

Mushy

8-10 wrote: »

They did that at the Sevilla v Betis game last night using computer game crowd

Is that what that was? Half blinded by it

kowloonkev

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Some BS from the EPL, with political slogans and emblems on the shirts front and back next week.
I've no problem with the Black Lives Matter movement, but IMHO a big mistake putting emblems and slogans on the shirts, enough politics mixing up with sport already, and after this any campaign can justifiably say 'well why can't we have our logo and message on the shirts'.

PR isn't it? All the big sporting organizations and companies scrambling all over each other to look the most humane, and all to protect their profitabilty.

I wonder if players who don't wish to particpate in the PR exercise allowed to wear the normal shirts? Probably be too scared to do so anyway I suppose.

Non solum non ambulabit

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Some BS from the EPL, with political slogans and emblems on the shirts front and back next week.
I've no problem with the Black Lives Matter movement, but IMHO a big mistake putting emblems and slogans on the shirts, enough politics mixing up with sport already, and after this any campaign can justifiably say 'well why can't we have our logo and message on the shirts'.

That horse bolted with the highly politicised Poppy wearing each year. The EPL is used as a propaganda tool by the British army.

pjohnson

So before Wednesday can Harry stick up that spaced out table thing again. I'm sure I'm not the only user who could genuinely use a reminder of who is where by how much from about 7th down to 19th :pac:

theoneeyedman

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I wouldn't consider BLM political...?

Really? That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but BLM has become very political in my opinion. Particularly in the US, where everything is political at the moment, but elsewhere too,where it seems less about equality as about a bandwagon to use for other agendas.

As someone else posted, the Poppy thing has probably meant that the ship has sailed, but IMHO it should not be the case. FIFA had regulations banning political slogans/campaigns, and I think it should be adhered to. Anyway, I'll just be glad to see the games back on either way.

MisterAnarchy

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Some BS from the EPL, with political slogans and emblems on the shirts front and back next week.

The same shirts that are made in sweat shops in the far east .
Its utter hypocrisy.

citytillidie

Table as it stands (no of games left)

82 Liverpool (9)
81
80
79
78
77
76
75
74
73
72
71
70
69
68
67
66
65
64
63
62
61
60
59
58
57 Man City (10)
56
55
54
53 Leicester (9)
52
51
50
49
48 Chelsea (9)
47
46
45 Man Utd (9)
44
43 Wolves (9) Sheff Utd (10)
42
41 Spurs (9)
40 Arsenal (10)
39 Burnley (9) Palace (9)
38
37 Everton (9)
36
35 Newcastle (9)
34 Southampton (9)
33
32
31
30
29 Brighton (9)
28
27 West Ham (9) Watford (9) Bournemouth (9)
26
25 Villa (10)
24
23
22
21 Norwich (9)

Drumpot

I don’t get these tables, why not just put

Liverpool +25 points,
Man City +4 points etc .

I presume we can’t put the normal table up for some EPL rights reason?

Mitch Connor

Drumpot wrote: »

I don’t get these tables, why not just put

Liverpool +25 points,
Man City +4 points etc .

I presume we can’t put the normal table up for some EPL rights reason?

Cause some people like to pleasure themselves to the spaces.

It's an interesting way to view the table. Really good representation of the ways things stand.

Drumpot

6 wrote: »

It's an interesting way to view the table. Really good representation of the ways things stand.

I suppose one is as good as another, it’s just so big.

Can’t believe the league is starting back up in less then a week, very surreal.

fyfe79

Drumpot wrote: »

I don’t get these tables, why not just put

Liverpool +25 points,
Man City +4 points etc .

I presume we can’t put the normal table up for some EPL rights reason?

Don't mention the war.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Cause some people like to pleasure themselves to the spaces.

Too late.

ShamoBuc

Drumpot wrote: »

I suppose one is as good as another, it’s just so big.

Can’t believe the league is starting back up in less then a week, very surreal.

It is big but it is a great way to see the gaps between positions. Normally wouldn't be as big to be fair but for the season liverpool are having.

davemckenna25

6 wrote: »

It's an interesting way to view the table. Really good representation of the ways things stand.

If that's so, I can't understand why noone else uses it?


.....maybe its not.....

Guy:Incognito

Drumpot wrote: »

I suppose one is as good as another, it’s just so big.

Itd be smaller if other teams won more games

ArmaniJeanss

davemckenna25 wrote: »

If that's so, I can't understand why noone else uses it?

FourFourTwo and a couple of other websites use it often enough.

Its called a Cann table if you want to google it.

Its not particularly suitable for print media or TV, so will likely remain niche.

Drumpot

Drumpot wrote: »

I suppose one is as good as another, it’s just so big.

Can’t believe the league is starting back up in less then a week, very surreal.

It's usually not that big tbf. Its just the way the season has gone.

ShamoBuc wrote: »

It is big but it is a great way to see the gaps between positions. Normally wouldn't be as big to be fair but for the season liverpool are having.

Spot on.

~Rebel~

davemckenna25 wrote: »

If that's so, I can't understand why noone else uses it?


.....maybe its not.....

It gets posted every year though, particularly around crunch time...

For top four, or relegation battles, it's a nice quick clear visual read.

davemckenna25

~Rebel~ wrote: »

It gets posted every year though, particularly around crunch time...

For top four, or relegation battles, it's a nice quick clear visual read.

Maybe I've never noticed it before.

Can't see the appeal of it myself.

DM_7

davemckenna25 wrote: »

Maybe I've never noticed it before.

Can't see the appeal of it myself.

Maybe as your favourite team is not the one at the top of it :pac:

Rock77

First time I’ve seen the table like that..

Jaysus Liverpool have seriously dominated! When you see it like that it really highlights it...

Hope it never happens again but enjoy it lads!!

ShamoBuc

Rock77 wrote: »

First time I’ve seen the table like that..

Jaysus Liverpool have seriously dominated! When you see it like that it really highlights it...

Hope it never happens again but enjoy it lads!!

That's key to its appeal. Writing the points difference is one thing but seeing the literal gap is much more eye opening.