Garda traffic on Twitter 3

It wasnt me123 · 20-02-2021 7:41pm

Mimon wrote: »

Agree with the APNR idea to catch NCT etc. Don't see the problem with getting the foot down within reason on a motorway in good conditions although the lunatics doing 150 plus could do with a bit of a wake up.

Speed kills and there are maximum limits for a reason.

What would happen if a tyre blew at 150km? An inexperienced/drink driver roaring along at 145km?

We need more visible gardai - if drivers thought they had a chance of being stopped / tax/insurance checked etc. drivers wouldn't take the chance of being on the road - also the penalties need to be much tougher - no licence lose the car permanently.

punisher5112 · 20-02-2021 7:48pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Speed kills and there are maximum limits for a reason.

What would happen if a tyre blew at 150km? An inexperienced/drink driver roaring along at 145km?

We need more visible gardai - if drivers thought they had a chance of being stopped / tax/insurance checked etc. drivers wouldn't take the chance of being on the road - also the penalties need to be much tougher - no licence lose the car permanently.

You do realise that the ones without insurance, licence etc will only stop when in prison, they couldn't give a fiddler's....
Some get caught twice or more in the same day sure, in a different car or even when the car is retrieved.

It wasnt me123 · 21-02-2021 10:05am

punisher5112 wrote: »

You do realise that the ones without insurance, licence etc will only stop when in prison, they couldn't give a fiddler's....
Some get caught twice or more in the same day sure, in a different car or even when the car is retrieved.

Then throw them in jail - clearly the current penalties aren't working and a high percentage of drivers on the road are unlicensed, cars untaxed, no NCT no insurance - its nuts.

Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is stupid - to change the mindset, make it much tougher but Ireland is soft on penalties.

This is what happens when you give people driving licences, rather than employ more examiners and then allow people to drive on learner permits for years. The powers that be have created this disaster with their lacksidaisical attitude - much harder to change the mindset of people now as they have an expectation of just getting into a car and driving, regardless of the licensing laws.

It wasnt me123 · 21-02-2021 10:08am

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Probably the same thing if the tyre blew at the speed limit. Also driving a 20 km/hr over the speed limit doesnt mean that you driving in some different level.

Not necessarily, generally, the faster you are going the less control you would have.

Some people have better control of fast cars than others but the laws have to try and encompass everyone.

drunkmonkey · 21-02-2021 10:51am

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Speed kills and there are maximum limits for a reason.

What percentage of our road fatalities are caused by excess speed alone on Motorways?
I don't know the answer but i'd assume it's a tiny percentage and most of the accident blackspots are not on Motorways.

easyvision · 21-02-2021 10:57am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What percentage of our road fatalities are caused by excess speed alone on Motorways?
I don't know the answer but i'd assume it's a tiny percentage and most of the accident blackspots are not on Motorways.

Exactly I’ve never bought into speed in a straight line is dangerous! Amount of times you could be going 120 and someone decides to pull out in front of you going 90-100, that’s what’s dangerous. Lack of observation... not the speed itself. You can go quite safely at 150km/h in a straight line.

joujoujou · 21-02-2021 10:59am

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1363404386429526016

Odyssey 2005 · 21-02-2021 11:16am

easyvision wrote: »

Exactly I’ve never bought into speed in a straight line is dangerous! Amount of times you could be going 120 and someone decides to pull out in front of you going 90-100, that’s what’s dangerous. Lack of observation... not the speed itself. You can go quite safely at 150km/h in a straight line.

I've noticed this is happening an awful lot lately. Fukers never ever look in their mirrors. I've also noticed it happens more and more with HGV drivers. Companies are paying peanuts and getting monkeys to drive they're lorries.

easyvision · 21-02-2021 11:35am

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

I've noticed this is happening an awful lot lately. Fukers never ever look in their mirrors. I've also noticed it happens more and more with HGV drivers. Companies are paying peanuts and getting monkeys to drive they're lorries.

It seems people have lost the ability to notice the car is going faster than them. Wait 5 seconds and let me pass then pull out?! I’ve had to slam my brakes on multiple times only for the to move left again 2 seconds later, could have waited 5 seconds and not nearly caused a crash

Sam Russell · 21-02-2021 11:58am

easyvision wrote: »

It seems people have lost the ability to notice the car is going faster than them. Wait 5 seconds and let me pass then pull out?! I’ve had to slam my brakes on multiple times only for the to move left again 2 seconds later, could have waited 5 seconds and not nearly caused a crash

If you are going at 100 km/hr, the car doing 150 km/hr is going 50% faster than you. If you pull out to overtake a truck doing 90 km/hr, the guy doing 150 km/h will be up your tail pipe in no time, no matter how much you look. He might be behind a slow (120 km/h car) behind you out of sight.

The sight lines on motorways are designed for 120 km/h, not 150 km/h. Add traffic, rain, or other bad weather and disaster is beckoning.

You can thank the Jaguar E Type for speed limits on motorways (in the UK) because they were testing the E Type on the M1 at night doing 150 MPH. As a result, speed limits were introduced as a safety measure.

easyvision · 21-02-2021 12:09pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

If you are going at 100 km/hr, the car doing 150 km/hr is going 50% faster than you. If you pull out to overtake a truck doing 90 km/hr, the guy doing 150 km/h will be up your tail pipe in no time, no matter how much you look. He might be behind a slow (120 km/h car) behind you out of sight.

The sight lines on motorways are designed for 120 km/h, not 150 km/h. Add traffic, rain, or other bad weather and disaster is beckoning.

You can thank the Jaguar E Type for speed limits on motorways (in the UK) because they were testing the E Type on the M1 at night doing 150 MPH. As a result, speed limits were introduced as a safety measure.

Motorways should be 130/140 anyway. 120 on slot of motorways doesn’t feel very fast. Feels like you’re not moving.

Damien360 · 21-02-2021 12:51pm

easyvision wrote: »

It seems people have lost the ability to notice the car is going faster than them. Wait 5 seconds and let me pass then pull out?! I’ve had to slam my brakes on multiple times only for the to move left again 2 seconds later, could have waited 5 seconds and not nearly caused a crash

My theory is those safe to change lane indications on the mirror of a lot of new cars are part of the problem. The blind spot monitor. I'm convinced people are relying on those which are fine for low speed queues but are not designed to catch the car coming at speed from behind. So they are looking in thier mirror for the little orange light and if it's not there, it must be safe.

HGV's continue to be the best on the road. You get the odd ass but by and large they are fantastic. Goods HGV'S being best and then it gets steadily worse until you get the site dump truck guys who are useless.

Speedline · 21-02-2021 1:11pm

easyvision wrote: »

Motorways should be 130/140 anyway. 120 on slot of motorways doesn’t feel very fast. Feels like you’re not moving.

Personally I'd love that. Putting the sensible hat on though, do you think a Daewoo Matiz with 5 on board doing 140kph in the rain is safe? Or 86 year old Doris in her Hyundai i10 gunning it like she's late for mass!?

Unfortunately the rules are there to cover everyone.

flazio · 21-02-2021 1:15pm

I see the Gardaí do this thing now where they post noteworthy offences on their twitter account.
Like this recent example
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1363456235270328320?s=19

joujoujou · 21-02-2021 2:36pm

Speedline wrote: »

Personally I'd love that. Putting the sensible hat on though, do you think a Daewoo Matiz with 5 on board doing 140kph in the rain is safe? Or 86 year old Doris in her Hyundai i10 gunning it like she's late for mass!?

Unfortunately the rules are there to cover everyone.

The rules are set to be as reasonable as possible. However, no one is obliged to go at speed limit when/where is not safe to do so, for whatever reason. Common sense.

21-02-2021 3:09pm

Can someone explain why we don't use the speed limits of 70, 90 and 110kph like they do in some other European countries?

Shirley it would give more choice to those setting the speed limits - sometimes the limit of 60kph is just too slow for some roads and 100 is just too fast for others. France brings the motorway limit down to 110 in bad weather from a much more reasonable 130kph under normal conditions- that's using your loaf.

joujoujou · 21-02-2021 3:19pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Can someone explain why we don't use the speed limits of 70, 90 and 110kph like they do in some other European countries?

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That's surely beyond explanation. It's not a rocket science at all, saw that sort of different limits on different roads (or even short-ish parts of) all over the continent. Works fine.

21-02-2021 6:05pm

joujoujou wrote: »

That's surely beyond explanation. It's not a rocket science at all, saw that sort of different limits on different roads (or even short-ish parts of) all over the continent. Works fine.

I'm looking for the reason why Ireland doesn't.

newirishman · 21-02-2021 7:36pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Can someone explain why we don't use the speed limits of 70, 90 and 110kph like they do in some other European countries?

Shirley it would give more choice to those setting the speed limits - sometimes the limit of 60kph is just too slow for some roads and 100 is just too fast for others. France brings the motorway limit down to 110 in bad weather from a much more reasonable 130kph under normal conditions- that's using your loaf.

Why not 80, 100, 130 like Austria for example?

Irish motorways are in general not build for much faster than 150, so a 120 speed limit makes sense.

21-02-2021 8:02pm

newirishman wrote: »

Why not 80, 100, 130 like Austria for example?

Irish motorways are in general not build for much faster than 150, so a 120 speed limit makes sense.

That wasn't my question. We have 80- we have 100kph speed limits.

We don't have 70, 90, 110kph speed limits.

Anyway, I'm probably at risk at putting this thread off-topic which is not my intention. Obviously the answer isn't forthcoming here.

easyvision · 21-02-2021 8:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That wasn't my question. We have 80- we have 100kph speed limits.

We don't have 70, 90, 110kph speed limits.

Anyway, I'm probably at risk at putting this thread off-topic which is not my intention. Obviously the answer isn't forthcoming here.

My only thought for this is, this is what were closest to MPH when converted..... eg 30MPH-50KM etc etc, they went with whatever was closest to our existing 30, 40, 50 60, 70MPH limits back in the day

Maybe, just my reasoning anyway

21-02-2021 9:18pm

easyvision wrote: »

My only thought for this is, this is what were closest to MPH when converted..... eg 30MPH-50KM etc etc, they went with whatever was closest to our existing 30, 40, 50 60, 70MPH limits back in the day

Maybe, just my reasoning anyway

Yep, makes total sense for the time. Might be an idea to introduce these other speed limits now? And also, my KPH speedo doesn't have "50" on it- it has "40" and "60" - so it's not like it's trying to conform to any standard speedo layout- no real excuse not to have these other speed limits at this point- we all know how to read our speedometer and stay within the speed limit- and as for the amount of UK cars here with MPH speedos- I just can't think of an excuse not to have them

bazz26 · 22-02-2021 12:16am

M4 warming up on the M4:

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1363618217319690242

MM's is black right?

newmember2 · 22-02-2021 12:43am

bazz26 wrote: »

M4 warming up on the M4:

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1363618217319690242

MM's is black right?

I'm not getting why on some of the excess speed ones it will say 'driver arrested' and others not, and it doesn't seem to be due to how much the driver was over the limit or what speed they were actually travelling at either.