2000 & 1000 Guineas weekend 06/07 June

byronbay2

Fastest 2000 Guineas ever. Course seems to be like a road. Was there no watering for some reason?

Slattsy

posturingpat wrote: »

Liked Military Marches run with an eye to the Derby possibly, got interfered with by the winner and was given a handy time of it thereafter. Should have no issue with the step up and I might have a nibble.

Noted that myself. Great minds...

.....lose their bollox.

supremenovice

Gutted by Juan Elcano finishing fifth. No matter how many places a bookie give, your horse will always be one place outside :rolleyes:

madmoose

Shows how great Frankel was with all that hype for Pinatubo, could win it any type of way could Frankel even with that joke Quelley on top.

Andrew00

The punters have really come for Millisle tomorrow

Dayjur

madmoose wrote: »

Shows how great Frankel was with all that hype for Pinatubo, could win it any type of way could Frankel even with that joke Quelley on top.

Did not even run in either of the two biggest races in the world for a so called great

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Yolo Again could knick top four place in 4.25 at Haydock at 50s

RivetingRoger

Swore to myself I wouldn't back Ryan Moore this year
Convinced myself the lesson was learned
Happy with my decision

Here I am 5 minutes into the season angrier at myself than that absolute balloon of a jockey

Is it possible to lose the ability to judge pace as you get older??

BoldReason

Are you talking about the last race? Horse was practically pulled up. No one in their right mind could blame him for that. Give the betting a rest Rog if you think Moore was poor there. The games not for you.

BoldReason

I'm still a bit peeved off they didn't run Sangarius in the handier race on Friday. Will leave him off against Elarqam but still hopeful my opinion that he is a group 1 horse in waiting. So hoping he can get the job done.

Andrew00

Sangarius has been friendless in the betting ever since the market was up

BoldReason

Andrew00 wrote: »

Sangarius has been friendless in the betting ever since the market was up

Yep has alright. Stoutes horses aren't running great either apart from 1 maiden winner.

Andrew00

Very poor from Sangarius. Never picked up

BoldReason

Andrew00 wrote: »

Very poor from Sangarius. Never picked up

Very dissapointing alright. Was a bit keen early and travelled nicely into it. But couldn't go with them. I'd be hopeful he'd come on from that. But still very dissapointing

BoldReason

Have backed Love in the 1000 guineas anyway. Mainly as I didn't like anything else in the race and think she is most likely to stay and run her race. She may just find a couple too good but I shall see.

Andrew00

BoldReason wrote: »

Have backed Love in the 1000 guineas anyway. Mainly as I didn't like anything else in the race and think she is most likely to stay and run her race. She may just find a couple too good but I shall see.

Same. I think she wins.

supremenovice

Maybe its Quadrilateral that will be the star of the season when we were all looking at Pinatubo. Her FTW and Les Hogues to sneak a place with hotshot young Fallon onboard.

Andrew00

Dire stuff at Newmarket today

posturingpat

The racing at Newmarket is reminding me of watching the Bags dogs in my college days. Sleep in, don't bother with college and head to the bookies to watch the Bags Dogs from Hove and other such tracks.
Quickest dog out grabs the rail and wins seemed to be the order of the time, Newmarket seems exactly like that today. Be interesting in the Guineas what they do.
Could there be a pace burn up with all the jockeys realising the massive bias to being prominent or will it just be a case of the Johnston horse getting away from them.

longshotvalue

3:35 1000 Guineas Hard to find anything of interest here, so going with former decent french horse Les Hogues . Her form has worked out and god this looks a weak race, apart from maybe Millisle who is too short.



1 Point ew 5 places paddy power 50/1

Andrew00

The punters have really come for Raffle Prize. Now 5s

The Tetrarch

I put a little on Shimmering at 25s in the 1000 Guineas for an interest.

gazza1

Small ew on Shimmering. Loads to find but has at least won over 1m.

18/1 5 places

BoldReason

You'd be a brave man to back raffle prize to stay the trip at 5/1.
Slade Power out of a pivotal mare. Seemed to barely get 6 last year.

BoldReason

That will do nicely Andrew. Hard to keep the lads off the board

posturingpat

O briens only runner pisses in. Makes perfect sense.

Dayjur

quadrilateral another flop

posturingpat

Dayjur wrote: »

quadrilateral another flop

Ran well considering she didn't race all that relaxed.

Andrew00

Oaks cert

Dayjur

posturingpat wrote: »

Ran well considering she didn't race all that relaxed.

excuses,shes been well beat by no superstar

posturingpat

Dayjur wrote: »

excuses,shes been well beat by no superstar

I have no allegiance to her at all so not trying to make excuses simply commenting how a 3rd place finish in a classic having travelled keen early is a pretty decent run rather than a flop.

BoldReason

I'd be wary enough about writing horses off on the back of 1 poor run this season. It has been a strange one and hardly ideal for some horses being primed for a May Guineas to have it run a month later. Time will tell.

tryfix

BoldReason wrote: »

I'd be wary enough about writing horses off on the back of 1 poor run this season. It has been a strange one and hardly ideal for some horses being primed for a May Guineas to have it run a month later. Time will tell.

She is a strange one. There was far too much hype about her after her win by a head in the Fillies Mile as a 2yo. She's a powerfully built and eye popping chestnut filly who maybe grabs the ground rather than lengthening out like the winner did. She would like a bit more cut in it. Although she'll stay I think it's a case of her having been more physically forward than most as a 2yo which will make it hard for her to improve on her 2yo form. She reminds me of one of Frankel's first star 2yos Fair Eva who was another stunning looking filly trained by Roger Charlton as well. One look at her powerful physique and gorgeous looks as she took the Princess Margaret at Royal Ascot was enough to have people raving about her being a superstar. She wasn't able to go forward from her juvenile win at Ascot and she was placed in a G3 and G2 before finishing 5th in the Guineas. Everyone just expected too much of her and her trainer always gave the impression that he thought the world of her.

BoldReason

Fair points. I wasn't specifically speaking about Quadrilateral as such. Just in general for this year. Pinatubo as well he hadnt much excuses but I wouldn't be surprised if he took a step forward from that run yesterday. I think Quadrilateral will do well to reverse the form with Love but not much went right for her in the race and she could very well improve from a step up to a mile and a quarter +

BoldReason

Backed 4 horses over the whole weekend there. Just spent a bit of time on the Naas card and I fancy half the card at the current prices. This will not end well.

Andrew00

BoldReason wrote: »

Backed 4 horses over the whole weekend there. Just spent a bit of time on the Naas card and I fancy half the card at the current prices. This will not end well.

Why is Southern Hills such a big price in the 5:05 Naas

BoldReason

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why is Southern Hills such a big price in the 5:05 Naas

He was one that made my long shortlist alright. I'm guessing it is an assption that Aidans usually need the run for the most part. But he beat the fav all ends up in Ascot when he was trained by Richard Fahey.
I thought Celtic Beauty was slightly more interesting at the price in that race. I'd have her half her current price tbh.

I'll probably back her and have a saver on Southern Hills

The Mig

The Mig wrote: »

:pac:

Military March ew in the 2000 and Love in the 1000 for me.

I love it

posturingpat

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why is Southern Hills such a big price in the 5:05 Naas

Others better treated at the weights. Aidan's other one has Seamie who likely had the choice and it has first time blinkers so more likely to be game ready in theory.
I'd also say there's a slight question mark regarding ground.
I'd give wheels on fire an ew squeak at the prices.

tryfix

BoldReason wrote: »

Fair points. I wasn't specifically speaking about Quadrilateral as such. Just in general for this year. Pinatubo as well he hadnt much excuses but I wouldn't be surprised if he took a step forward from that run yesterday. I think Quadrilateral will do well to reverse the form with Love but not much went right for her in the race and she could very well improve from a step up to a mile and a quarter +

Quadrilateral didn't lose much in defeat, she's still well in the mix for any fillies race. The winner gained hugely, in a different league.

Pinesky

ITV viewers almost doubled over 2019. Less competition but a win is a win . Oisin praised extensively for his communication skills .Finally an heir apparent to Frankie appears as the face of racing ?