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David Dorn - 77 years old shot by looters - no protests for you

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    #92
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Can't see it to be honest, and its sad to say that.
    I don't think much will change.

    Cal Thomas commenting on The Last Word the other day said that something like $24 trillion has been spent in US history on trying to eradicate poverty and on community projects to improve the lives of those less well off, and we still are no further forward.

    I can't see any improvement.

    75,000 per US resident across the whole history of the USA and a cherry picked number which matches their national debt.

    750 a year since the foundation of the USA (assuming the USA was founded in 1920 and the population is constant - may be wrong but it's as accurate as Cal Thomas).


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    #93
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Edgware wrote: »
    If a burglar doesnt want to get shot doing a burglary he knows what to do.
    You only love black and tan uniforms not black or tan skin?
    It is absolutely amazing that an anti Irish weirdo would be a racist - amazing!


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    #94
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Pot and Kettle tbh.

    Your ancestors fourteen generations back being from Athlone and you being Irish are like chicken sh t and chicken salad.


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    #95
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    JJayoo wrote: »
    And if you go the other side it's all peace and love and zero about the looting

    What other side? I haveen't seen any news organisation ignore the riots or looting.


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    #96
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    David Dorn was killed by a common criminal trying to rob him. The killers will most likely be caught and charged, convicted and sentenced.


    George Floyd was basically tortured to death by a notoriously violent cop and his henchmen who should have been kicked off the force years ago and thrown in jail. He would most likely have gotten away with the killing too if the video didn't make the rounds. David Dorn's life was no less precious than George Floyd's but the savagery of Floyd's death at the hands of agents who are sworn to protect the public yet do anything but and dole out this level of brutality wholesale and with not only impunity but gusto on a daily basis is the spark that lit the fuse.


    David Dorn was killed by a common thief.
    George Floyd was murdered by the state.

    So when a bus driver employed by the state knocks down a person on his route, then that person was knocked down by the state.
    When a doctor employed by the state is negligent and a patient dies on the operating theatre then the state killed that patient (granted the state pays the compo).
    If a school teacher slaps a kid upside the head , then that kid was smacked by the state.
    If a Garda runs over a pedestrian on his way to a crime seen, then that person was knocked over by the state.
    we can go on all day with that list

    your logic defies logic

    If you are The Alan Shatter that logic would explain alot about why politics in its current form is so dysfunctional if thats the quality of the occupants , but you did manage to get you social justice posturing points for the day. You can show everyone your msg on how the state is bad and all men are good.

    Maybe you should ask the Democrat govenor, the Democrat house Rep, The Democrat police of chief, the Democrat Mayor, The Democrat Attorney General, The Democrat Prosecutor who run Minneapolis why he wasnt kicked off the force, or does that not square with you placing the blame for this on the Resolute Desk (its the table in the Oval office for those who dont know, yeah they name everything in America)


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    #97
    El_Duderino 09
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    RIGOLO wrote: »
    So when a bus driver employed by the state knocks down a person on his route, then that person was knocked down by the state.
    When a doctor employed by the state is negligent and a patient dies on the operating theatre then the state killed that patient (granted the state pays the compo).
    If a school teacher slaps a kid upside the head , then that kid was smacked by the state.
    If a Garda runs over a pedestrian on his way to a crime seen, then that person was knocked over by the state.
    we can go on all day with that list

    your logic defies logic

    I get that you were trying to be ridiculous but you're actually right. Those people are state employees and both the state and the individuals would be liable (state would have to pay compensation through).

    That should be pretty obvious. If a garda knocks down a pedestrian AGS woidl have to pay and AGS is funded by the government. Same wihh a teacher or bus driver (provided they are employed by the state!


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    #98
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    AllForIt wrote: »
    The big elephant in the room issue with all this is the massive amount of violent crime perpetrated by blacks and black gangs in the US. It exists now in London too and it will come to Ireland in time also if we don't cop on.

    thats eplephan-tist ..

    expect a knock on the door from Dublin zoo ...

    Lets see how many die in Chicago this weekend , it was 22 last weekend FATALLY SHOT 82 injured, the weekend before was super quiet , only 9 FATALLY shot in Chicago that weekend.

    Theres a protest in Galway this weekend to stop black on black violence.. oh hang theres isnt, they cancelled it cos the organisers couldnt put together a 300 word speech on it cos they couldnt fit teh terms White Supremist , Nzi, male patriarchy, white privilege and Trump into the oration.
    And we all know a public oration aint worths its salt thesse days unless you can get those words in.

    Chicago St Obamas old stomping ground, no wonder he debunked out of there to Marthas Vineyard , about as far away from Afican American ghettos he could get.


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    #99
    ShatterAlan
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    Nozebleed wrote: »
    police in america are supposed to protect law abiding citizens from people like george floyd. this seems to be forgotten in the whole saga..its terrible that he died at the hands of the police. but was it intentional? was it racism? was it an execution? as is being touted by the media? i think not.


    Who in their right minds thinks it's ok to kneel full weight on someone's NECK as their cuffed on the ground for 9 minutes?


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    #100
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Theres a protest in Galway this weekend to stop black on black violence.. oh hang theres isnt

    If there was you, or one of the 53 scholars that liked your nonsense OP would be calling it racist and saying "What about the WHITE victims of black crime?"

    The same explanation you were given in the opening pages of the thread would count. Those people are being murdered by criminals, not by taxpayer-funded should-be public servants.


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    #101
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    thats eplephan-tist ..

    expect a knock on the door from Dublin zoo ...

    Lets see how many die in Chicago this weekend , it was 22 last weekend FATALLY SHOT 82 injured, the weekend before was super quiet , only 9 FATALLY shot in Chicago that weekend.

    Theres a protest in Galway this weekend to stop black on black violence.. oh hang theres isnt, they cancelled it cos the organisers couldnt put together a 300 word speech on it cos they couldnt fit teh terms White Supremist , Nzi, male patriarchy, white privilege and Trump into the oration.
    And we all know a public oration aint worths its salt thesse days unless you can get those words in.

    Chicago St Obamas old stomping ground, no wonder he debunked out of there to Marthas Vineyard , about as far away from Afican American ghettos he could get.

    I mean, you started this thread under the guise of pretending to care about David Dorn. That didn't last long, did it?

    St. Obama... Christ alive.


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    #102
    Wompa1
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    RIGOLO wrote: »
    So when a bus driver employed by the state knocks down a person on his route, then that person was knocked down by the state.

    Is there a policy that enables bus drivers to run people down with the only "justice" being self served?


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    #103
    Igotadose
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    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    Who in their right minds thinks it's ok to kneel full weight on someone's NECK as their cuffed on the ground for 9 minutes?

    IOKIYAR. Trumpologists like the OP have lost it as the #IMPOTUS has presided on the worst collapse of the US economy in history, and he's scraping the 'blame everything on Obama' now, as there's nothing left for the tGOP to run on.

    Law and Order? Nah. Riots.
    Economy? Laughable
    Worldwide influence? Spit the soft drink now.

    Basically, this is a thread for the Trumplogists like the OPto whine.

    Like he'd give David Dorn the time of day. Would he have lived in Dorn's neighborhood when he lived in the US?

    Trump is done. Time to start getting over it so maybe the GOP won't be completely eliminated as a political force by 2022.


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    #104
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    RWCNT wrote: »
    If there was you, or one of the 53 scholars that liked your nonsense OP would be calling it racist and saying "What about the WHITE victims of black crime?"

    one way to find out...

    has it ever been tried ...

    We know it wont happen , no liberal left social justice warrior would ever grab that nettle, they'd never get invited back onto Radio 1 for the weekend shows again and their career as a part time college lecturer would be no-platformed faster than you could steal a chessecake to honour George Floyds memory .


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    #105
    ThewhiteJesus
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    the longer they allow this looting and general disregard for law and order to continue the worse it'll get.
    Smash those responsible, and leave the peaceful protesters alone


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    #106
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    thats eplephan-tist ..

    expect a knock on the door from Dublin zoo ...

    Lets see how many die in Chicago this weekend , it was 22 last weekend FATALLY SHOT 82 injured, the weekend before was super quiet , only 9 FATALLY shot in Chicago that weekend.

    Theres a protest in Galway this weekend to stop black on black violence.. oh hang theres isnt, they cancelled it cos the organisers couldnt put together a 300 word speech on it cos they couldnt fit teh terms White Supremist , Nzi, male patriarchy, white privilege and Trump into the oration.
    And we all know a public oration aint worths its salt thesse days unless you can get those words in.

    Chicago St Obamas old stomping ground, no wonder he debunked out of there to Marthas Vineyard , about as far away from Afican American ghettos he could get.




    Well if there was a mask, its gone now.


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    #107
    ThewhiteJesus
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    circadian wrote: »
    Aye they're showing some amount of restraint.


    100% they are well said circadian,
    proper policing would have this sorted out very quickly


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    #108
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Well if there was a mask, its gone now.

    Desperation on the part of the Trumpologist. Cue 'Hilary!" 'Benghazi'! "Seth Rich" ! "Paula Jones"! "Whitewater!"

    They got nothing. "Their arms too short to box with god" I guess.


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    #109
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    one way to find out...

    has it ever been tried ...

    We know it wont happen , no liberal left social justice warrior would ever grab that nettle, they'd never get invited back onto Radio 1 for the weekend shows again and their career as a part time college lecturer would be no-platformed faster than you could steal a chessecake to honour George Floyds memory .

    Why would they bother? Black criminals that kill other black people tend to be convicted and face justice. The entire point of the Black Lives Matter movement is to oppose police brutalising and murdering black people without facing justice.

    Why don't you organise one? Since you obviously care so much? You don't strike me as the type worried about being labelled politically incorrect.


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    #110
    Kidchameleon
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    At the risk of being labled racist, RIP David Dorn


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    #111
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    At the risk of being labled racist, RIP David Dorn

    Uuh. Edgy.

    Having to distort the situation so much, really exposes the weakness in the position.


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    #112
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Igotadose wrote: »
    IOKIYAR. Trumpologists like the OP have lost it as the #IMPOTUS has presided on the worst collapse of the US economy in history, and he's scraping the 'blame everything on Obama' now, as there's nothing left for the tGOP to run on.

    Law and Order? Nah. Riots.
    Economy? Laughable
    Worldwide influence? Spit the soft drink now.

    Basically, this is a thread for the Trumplogists like the OPto whine.

    Like he'd give David Dorn the time of day. Would he have lived in Dorn's neighborhood when he lived in the US?

    Trump is done. Time to start getting over it so maybe the GOP won't be completely eliminated as a political force by 2022.


    Gottas love these liberals , utterly clueless , cant understand how someone can have another opinion to them, fantasising about their white privelege.

    well ONLY because you ask ...

    Among other stints in America , I lived in ROXBURY, Boston for 2 years , me and the missus and my first born. Look it up in wikipedia "The city states that Roxbury serves as the "heart of Black culture in Boston ". 99% of people I spoke too were shocked when they heard my address, but I liked living in an urban setting, something soothing about hearing gun shots and a siren blaring on a hot summers night as you sit soaked in sweat looking like Steve Staunton circa World Cup 94 , on the steps outside your building.
    Probably visited the Irish neigbourhoods in Boston twice , preferred instead to go to places like Wallys Jazz Cafe. If you have ever rolled a pram down a black neighbourhood , the only white person in sight, and have all these momas (who were neighbours) come up and tickle your kids cheeks.. i remember stuff like that
    In my London days I lived in Camberwell and Brixton .. about as black as you could get at the time. Yep white privelege thats me, ..

    we digress enough about me .


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    #113
    Mr E
    Registered Users Posts: 55,519 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    What Beasty said yesterday in a similar thread.
    Beasty wrote:
    OP, maybe you should make an "Outrage" forum request

    Not Current Affairs

    Closed.


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