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Why does RTE have such a pro-SF bias?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Clearly


    So you prefer money over protecting children


    If you call that odd then yes 100% i am odd. I think you will find a lot of people will sit in the odd bracket


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Chiparus wrote: »
    No, my concern is what affects me. I dont care about the church collections for ff/fg- but the bagmen in the Law Library do, or the politicians in the debt of property developers or multimillionaires, or insurance companies.

    Done some googling on this.....turns out there is infact some significant truth on this subject,despite others trying to shut down debate on this


    Martin being caught lying to tribunals in 2000,and still involved in irish politics,is a fairly damning indictment of FF

    Perhaps establishing the HSE and what it has decended into,is an example of where the country is headed with him.as taoiseach??


    Research into our new taoiseach to continue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Done some googling on this.....turns out there is infact some significant truth on this subject,despite others trying to shut down debate on this


    Martin being caught lying to tribunals in 2000,and still involved in irish politics,is a fairly damning indictment of FF

    Perhaps establishing the HSE and what it has decended into,is an example of where the country is headed with him.as taoiseach??


    Great topic, worthy of its own thread!


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Great topic, worthy of its own thread!

    Meh,probably....but i started 1 thread,and it got shut down


    So.i keep my content creating to reddit/ons sites,and just let boards die


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    Well one things for certain that the independent has an extremely strong bias against Sinn from.

    Sinn fein should take a leaf out of Micheal Collins book and send the boys round to smash their heads in


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So you prefer money over protecting children


    If you call that odd then yes 100% i am odd. I think you will find a lot of people will sit in the odd bracket

    Would you support FF if they ever had protected a child abuser?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Would you support FF if they ever had protected a child abuser?

    It’s a SF thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It’s a SF thread.

    Simple question , would you vote FF if they ever protected a child abuser?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Chiparus wrote: »
    Simple question , would you vote FF if they ever protected a child abuser?

    Interesting you haven’t rejected the comment I made about you preferring money over the safety of children

    So it’s true. I will ignore you going forward.

    As mentioned this is a SF thread. Hint is in the title


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Interesting you haven’t rejected the comment I made about you preferring money over the safety of children

    So it’s true. I will ignore you going forward.

    As mentioned this is a SF thread. Hint is in the title

    Simple question, would you vote FF if they had ever protected a child abuser?

    You seem pretty evasive , for someone who values child protection so much.

    Fairly easy to answer I would have thought.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Who cares?

    If he did fair play to him

    I am wondering what this has to do with RTÉ bias for SF????

    So you have no issues with political corruption, in fact you intimate it is a good thing with your "fair play to him" and seem to be reticent about stating whether or not you would vote for FF if they ever protected a child abuser.

    You seem to use child abuse as a political tool , a stick to bash the other side.
    Like Martin , you can parade these poor victims for political expediancy then discard them as soon as their political usefulness is gone.

    Very odd ,........... some might say odious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It’s a SF thread.

    its an rte/sf thread. hilarious to see you of all people telling people to start threads when many of your own posts are the same


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Ahistorical rubbish.
    The classic economic illiterate is that jumped up little skanger Paschal Donoghue.

    Watching the six news yesterday, Ingrid Miley (a.k.a the Trade Union spokeswoman) had a piece about the €6bn government deficit we now find ourselves in.


    In the first 60 seconds, we see the face of that economic illiterate Pearse Doherty, sprouting the usual lefty populist nonsense. Only at the very end of the piece does Ingrid care to summarize what Paschal Donohoe, the actual Minister who knows what he's talking about, has to say. And we don't see him speak, it's just Ingird's brief summary of what he said, even though he had a news conference.



    Am i the only one who notices how blatantly obvious the bias is? This happens every time....SF, PBP views are first, right at the top of the news. Often no view aired from anyone at FG or FF.



    It's also noticeable when they say "Opposition parties voiced their frustration with X"...and they cut to SF first, then FF second. Every darn time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    maccored wrote: »
    its an rte/sf thread. hilarious to see you of all people telling people to start threads when many of your own posts are the same


    You seem to be easily amused if you find that hillarious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    RTE are not in the last bit pro SF , in fact the southern irish media have always been extremely soft on ulster unionism and almost ashamed of republicanism and nationalism up north

    RTE are of the Michael D and mary robinson left , unfortunately SF have embraced this kind of socialism of late , RTE support labour , soc dems and the green party ideologically , culturally and socially , they out of necessity scratch the backs of FG and FF but would happily see both consigned to the scrap heap


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    RTE are not in the last bit pro SF , in fact the southern irish media have always been extremely soft on ulster unionism and almost ashamed of republicanism and nationalism up north

    RTE are of the Michael D and mary robinson left , unfortunately SF have embraced this kind of socialism of late , RTE support labour , soc dems and the green party ideologically , culturally and socially , they out of necessity scratch the backs of FG and FF but would happily see both consigned to the scrap heap

    A lot to be ashamed about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Watching the six news yesterday, Ingrid Miley (a.k.a the Trade Union spokeswoman) had a piece about the €6bn government deficit we now find ourselves in.


    In the first 60 seconds, we see the face of that economic illiterate Pearse Doherty, sprouting the usual lefty populist nonsense. Only at the very end of the piece does Ingrid care to summarize what Paschal Donohoe, the actual Minister who knows what he's talking about, has to say. And we don't see him speak, it's just Ingird's brief summary of what he said, even though he had a news conference.



    Am i the only one who notices how blatantly obvious the bias is? This happens every time....SF, PBP views are first, right at the top of the news. Often no view aired from anyone at FG or FF.



    It's also noticeable when they say "Opposition parties voiced their frustration with X"...and they cut to SF first, then FF second. Every darn time.


    are you actually for real, cast your mind back a bit during the last few elections SF got minimal coverage compared to FFG, what about the leaders debate with Leo and Michael and SF were initially not part of it, i could go on and on, this is the most bizzare post in quite sometime.

    RTE are very much pro FFG and always have been for as long as i can remember.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You seem to be easily amused if you find that hillarious.

    you ARE amusing, I'll give you that


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    are you actually for real, cast your mind back a bit during the last few elections SF got minimal coverage compared to FFG, what about the leaders debate with Leo and Michael and SF were initially not part of it, i could go on and on, this is the most bizzare post in quite sometime.

    RTE are very much pro FFG and always have been for as long as i can remember.

    RTE are overtly left wing , they used to back the labour party and championed the liberal agenda which labour were at the forefront of , they now give warm coverage to the soc dems and the green party

    they are forced to do business with FG and FF but have no love for either , FG have turned uber WOKE this past few years so FF are the lesser now but michael martin is well liked at RTE due to his impecable liberal credentials


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    RTE are overtly left wing , they used to back the labour party and championed the liberal agenda which labour were at the forefront of , they now give warm coverage to the soc dems and the green party

    they are forced to do business with FG and FF but have no love for either , FG have turned uber WOKE this past few years so FF are the lesser now but michael martin is well liked at RTE due to his impecable liberal credentials

    All wrong. Know plenty in RTE. People Before Profit are absolutely flavour of the month. Perfect Party for RTE luvvies on good pensionable risk free jobs who blindly champion "social issues" without having to live those issues or to actually come up with any workable solution bar the usual "tax the rich" (but not them who are actually due a pay rise). On Sinn Fein they have bought into the lie that they are just another party rather than a criminal enterprise but more than that are not biased toward them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Truthvader wrote: »
    All wrong. Know plenty in RTE. People Before Profit are absolutely flavour of the month. Perfect Party for RTE luvvies on good pensionable risk free jobs who blindly champion "social issues" without having to live those issues or to actually come up with any workable solution bar the usual "tax the rich" (but not them who are actually due a pay rise). On Sinn Fein they have bought into the lie that they are just another party rather than a criminal enterprise but more than that are not biased toward them.


    PBP was the golden child last election. Just look at this election and they had the lovely Coppinger all over the place. Never mind the fact she was useless since she got elected. Dropped all the poor single parents she carted around with her last election once she was in the door.....


    RTE think SF is now the in thing so they are plastering them all over everything. Even Tubs not having the ability to ask Mary Lou a proper question was similar to him interviewing Leo last year. Then trying to get at MM and just made a fool of himself.


    Unfortuneatly for RTE at this stage they have little credibility left and the major audience is in the older people, who lets be honest in majority hate SF and everything it stands for.



    RTE would be better having a good hard look at itself as an organization but that will never happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    PBP was the golden child last election. Just look at this election and they had the lovely Coppinger all over the place. Never mind the fact she was useless since she got elected. Dropped all the poor single parents she carted around with her last election once she was in the door.....


    RTE think SF is now the in thing so they are plastering them all over everything. Even Tubs not having the ability to ask Mary Lou a proper question was similar to him interviewing Leo last year. Then trying to get at MM and just made a fool of himself.


    Unfortuneatly for RTE at this stage they have little credibility left and the major audience is in the older people, who lets be honest in majority hate SF and everything it stands for.



    RTE would be better having a good hard look at itself as an organization but that will never happen.

    Too true - and they have a bigger problem coming down the tracks due to social media etc. They have no money and soon will have no audience. Those of a certain age will remember the journalist Con Houlihan (a proper journalist) who observed when the Evening Press newspaper finally went bust that it failed because "its readers could no longer buy the paper because they were dead." Who under the age of 21 watches TV at all - never mind RTE?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Too true - and they have a bigger problem coming down the tracks due to social media etc. They have no money and soon will have no audience. Those of a certain age will remember the journalist Con Houlihan (a proper journalist) who observed when the Evening Press newspaper finally went bust that it failed because "its readers could no longer buy the paper because they were dead." Who under the age of 21 watches TV at all - never mind RTE?

    They have money because it against the law not to give them money. The problem is they waste it. The amount of money pushed into stupid projects is incredible, the amount of failed attempts at rte player is unbelievable.

    Rte will always have an audience just for the fact it is a national tv station but not for two stations. They also need to dump 2fm quickly because that’s a waste of time

    Maybe if SF get into power they will pump money into it as they seem to love the old propaganda game. Maybe that’s the rte plan


  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭petronius


    RTE bizarrely has a SF Bias - ok 30 years ago they had an Official SF/Workers Party ideology, and were so Anti-PSF pro-section 31, recall they didnt send a camera crew to cover Bobby Sands election

    so maybe as Sinn Fein has become the SFWP-Nua RTE is happy to go easy on them

    They did not demand O'Neills resignation over the Provo-Pageantry of Bobby Storeys funeral - when of course ordinary people were limited in the number of people at funerals and even gravesides all over the north


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    They have money because it against the law not to give them money. The problem is they waste it. The amount of money pushed into stupid projects is incredible, the amount of failed attempts at rte player is unbelievable.

    Rte will always have an audience just for the fact it is a national tv station but not for two stations. They also need to dump 2fm quickly because that’s a waste of time

    Maybe if SF get into power they will pump money into it as they seem to love the old propaganda game. Maybe that’s the rte plan

    That's about the only way RTE will get any more money without being run properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    petronius wrote: »
    RTE bizarrely has a SF Bias - ok 30 years ago they had an Official SF/Workers Party ideology, and were so Anti-PSF pro-section 31, recall they didnt send a camera crew to cover Bobby Sands election

    so maybe as Sinn Fein has become the SFWP-Nua RTE is happy to go easy on them

    They did not demand O'Neills resignation over the Provo-Pageantry of Bobby Storeys funeral - when of course ordinary people were limited in the number of people at funerals and even gravesides all over the north

    They didn't demand Flanagan's head over the Horkan funeral either.
    They didn't let MLMD take part in televised debates.
    So yeah....bias :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Jennifer Wet Checkbook


    For a station with such a rabid pro-SF bias, they sure seem to think that Alan Kelly is the head of the opposition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Not when Miriam O'Callaghan is interviewing them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    RTE is donnybrook media for the type of people that can afford to live in donnybrook. After years and years of representing the views of what they presumed was middle ireland (their friends and neighbours) the producers have realised that theyre out of touch with actual middle Ireland, so now presume Nuevo lefty sinn fein represent the working / lower middle class , so adopt a bias in favour of that view. Its news by dickheads sitting around in million quid houses trying to pretend theyre the same as everyone else,

    agreeing with a party of the fringe lunatics because theyre so detached from actually working and middle class ireland that they think most of us favour this party.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Truthvader wrote: »
    All wrong. Know plenty in RTE. People Before Profit are absolutely flavour of the month. Perfect Party for RTE luvvies on good pensionable risk free jobs who blindly champion "social issues" without having to live those issues or to actually come up with any workable solution bar the usual "tax the rich" (but not them who are actually due a pay rise). On Sinn Fein they have bought into the lie that they are just another party rather than a criminal enterprise but more than that are not biased toward them.

    Describes FF as well.


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