It's scary how June 4th passed with so little coverage

Str8outtaWuhan

While still a taboo subject to Chinese people, I'm constantly surprised how Western Media continues to let the day pass without much notice

Fr Tod Umptious

Events in the US have taken most of the media attention this week.

In order years this has got a lot of coverage.

Pkiernan

Calling out institutionalised Chinese suppression of human rights doesn't fit the lefts agenda.

Yurt2

The latest line from the CCP is that something happened, but it didn't happen the way the West says it happened, and are hoping the truth gets lost in the fog of time and censorship.

In fact, a lot of hyper-nationalist Chinese netizens are drawing parallels between looters in the US and the more radical elements of the Hong Kong protests and are justifying the crackdown back then that they did it to restore order in society.

Creepy authoritarian fetishists in the West are happy to parrott it.

Yurt2

An essential watch to get an idea of the complex events around that time.

_Brian

In fairness what’s happening in the US is more shocking.

What happened in China was inevitable as hard line communist government exercising brutal control over its people. That’s kinda expected to keep the locals under the thumb.

America’s actions this week are far more sinister and brutal.


One of the times we travelled in China we were visiting Tienamen square and a lady openly asked where exactly the massacre had happened. I’ll tell ya, things got very quiet and sticky and the guide had a private word with her. Luckily it was out of earshot of police.

Yurt2

_Brian wrote: »

America’s actions this week are far more sinister and brutal.

Let me know when Trump sends in the army and they open fire on countless demonstrators and proceed to cover it up.

I'll agree with you then.

Pkiernan

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness what’s happening in the US is more shocking.

What happened in China was inevitable as hard line communist government exercising brutal control over its people. That’s kinda expected to keep the locals under the thumb.

America’s actions this week are far more sinister and brutal.


One of the times we travelled in China we were visiting Tienamen square and a lady openly asked where exactly the massacre had happened. I’ll tell ya, things got very quiet and sticky and the guide had a private word with her. Luckily it was out of earshot of police.

Your post us incredibly shocking, but at the same time not surprising.
Hatred for Trump overshadows orchestrated mass murder.

Fr Tod Umptious

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness what’s happening in the US is more shocking.

What happened in China was inevitable as hard line communist government exercising brutal control over its people. That’s kinda expected to keep the locals under the thumb.

America’s actions this week are far more sinister and brutal.


One of the times we travelled in China we were visiting Tienamen square and a lady openly asked where exactly the massacre had happened. I’ll tell ya, things got very quiet and sticky and the guide had a private word with her. Luckily it was out of earshot of police.

What actions exactly ?

A person got killed due to police brutality.
Unfortunately it happens a lot in the US to all races.

What happened in China was a brutal suppression of a peaceful demonstration by a totalitarian regime.

I don't see how what happened in the US is worse.

Wise up will ya.

dwayneshintzy

Saying that the US response to recent protests is "worse" than Tiananmen is ridiculous. They're nowhere near approaching the same thing, since one was a brutal and horrific massacre.

I don't think comparing the US protests and the HK protests is too far off base, though.

Cal4567

Yes, hatred for Trump surpasses everything, it would seem.

You would have thought with Hong Kong looking like it was kicking off again last week, the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests would have resulted in more tv coverage although the 30 years anniversary did last year. Even apportioning blame or responsibility to China for Covid 19 seems very muted in our general media.

No, a single event in Minneapolis has been propelled onto all our media outlets in a matter of little more than a week. It might even work. If the Democrats can get the working class blacks back voting, those who came out for Obama but didn’t for Hillary, then they may be able to turn it Biden’s way. Even more so if he picks Kamala Harris as his running mate.

Both situations are shocking but as the poster above states, on the scale of horror, it doesn’t register as much as the Chinese mass slaughter.

Irishphotodesk

At the risk of stirring things up you are comparing different events at different times , both sadly, the world has witnessed.

In terms of wine you are comparing a 1967 bottle against a more modern bottle, both can be appreciated and lauded as the best, but only people living in both periods of time can compare a like for like.

Stop bickering over which is the worst or even comparing the two events.

Edgware

4th June 1984. Springsteen released "Born in the U.S.A."

tdf7187

Bill Clinton, liberal hero, brought in detente with China just three years after the massacre.

tdf7187

Pkiernan wrote: »

Calling out institutionalised Chinese suppression of human rights doesn't fit the lefts agenda.

Much of the right are also implicated. The left are arguably more hypocritical because they pretend to care about human rights.

snotboogie

_Brian wrote: »

In fairness what’s happening in the US is more shocking.

What happened in China was inevitable as hard line communist government exercising brutal control over its people. That’s kinda expected to keep the locals under the thumb.

America’s actions this week are far more sinister and brutal.


One of the times we travelled in China we were visiting Tienamen square and a lady openly asked where exactly the massacre had happened. I’ll tell ya, things got very quiet and sticky and the guide had a private word with her. Luckily it was out of earshot of police.

I don't think you appreciate the political climate in China at the time. Mao was dead, the gang of four had been vanquished, the moderate reformists of the CCP had won and the protests started with commerations after the death of the key reformers Hu Yaobang. China was in a genuine state of flux, the economy was moving away from communism and democracy seemed like the next logical step. What happened there was more shocking. This was a time completely distinct from the Mao era or the modern Xi era.

Pkiernan

tdf7187 wrote: »

Much of the right are also implicated. The left are arguably more hypocritical because they pretend to care about human rights.

Only American Black Lives Matter.

African black lives dont seem to matter to anyone.

James Brown

Pkiernan wrote: »

Calling out institutionalised Chinese suppression of human rights doesn't fit the lefts agenda.

Where the f*** are you getting this?
Trump's kids, on his behest have been doing multi-million dollar deals with China while he was talking tough on trade. He stands to make a fortune off deals with China after his term in office.

The left is very much about human rights or is Amnesty International no worse than the KKK or Republican GOP? The ignorance of some people.

Edgware

tdf7187 wrote: »

Much of the right are also implicated. The left are arguably more hypocritical because they pretend to care about human rights.

The left are selective about whose human rights they care about.
The millions killed by Stalins gang were fodder as part of progressing the Revolution

Pkiernan

Bowie wrote: »

Where the f*** are you getting this?
Trump's kids, on his behest have been doing multi-million dollar deals with China while he was talking tough on trade. He stands to make a fortune off deals with China after his term in office.

The left is very much about human rights or is Amnesty International no worse than the KKK or Republican GOP? The ignorance of some people.

What a strange post.