PPE Charge

Esse85

Has anyone paid this while in with the dentist recently?

First I was made aware of it was when paying my bill of €1100 for 2 hours of work.

I was given a mask and had it on for 20 seconds before being asked to remove it.

Is this the norm? I found it quiet cheeky on top of the already excessive charge of €1100 for 2 hours work.

Esse85

Esse85 wrote: »

Has anyone paid this while in with the dentist recently?

First I was made aware of it was when paying my bill of €1100 for 2 hours of work.

I was given a mask and had it on for 20 seconds before being asked to remove it.

Is this the norm? I found it quiet cheeky on top of the already excessive charge of €1100 for 2 hours work.

The PPE is the protective equipment dentists now have to buy and wear when treating patients in order to protect you, staff and other patients from Covid 19, not the mask you wear.

If you felt €1100 was excessive, why did you have the treatment?

Oral Surgeon

Esse85 wrote: »

Has anyone paid this while in with the dentist recently?

First I was made aware of it was when paying my bill of €1100 for 2 hours of work.

I was given a mask and had it on for 20 seconds before being asked to remove it.

Is this the norm? I found it quiet cheeky on top of the already excessive charge of €1100 for 2 hours work.

What was the PPE amount??

OU812

Recently paid €20 PPE charge when having a filling.

Cost of a filling has also raised from €140 before covid to €160, so an additional 30%

Esse85

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

What was the PPE amount??

€22

Esse85

Dav010 wrote: »

The PPE is the protective equipment dentists now have to buy and wear when treating patients in order to protect you, staff and other patients from Covid 19, not the mask you wear.

If you felt €1100 was excessive, why did you have the treatment?

I wasn't told how much the treatment would be before hand.
No I didn't ask, yes I should have, given it costs that much I would of expected to be told that beforehand.
I don't have much experience with dentists.

I just know if I left my car in to be fixed, I'd expect to be told the amount it'll cost roughly to repair before the service was carried out.

Esse85

OU812 wrote: »

Recently paid €20 PPE charge when having a filling.

Cost of a filling has also raised from €140 before covid to €160, so an additional 30%

I paid similar PPE charge.

I think it's bad form, especially when told afterwards.

Where do they get that amount from?

OU812

Esse85 wrote: »

I paid similar PPE charge.

I think it's bad form, especially when told afterwards.

Where do they get that amount from?

I was told beforehand and it was a separate charge.

Some Hairdressers are also charging for PPE and extra cleaning.

Esse85

Esse85 wrote: »

Where do they get that amount from?

Average cost of PPE per patient is €25. Gowns, FFP2 masks etc x 2 (dentist and assistant). This will be the norm until a vaccine is found.

Esse85

Esse85 wrote: »

I wasn't told how much the treatment would be before hand.
No I didn't ask, yes I should have, given it costs that much I would of expected to be told that beforehand.
I don't have much experience with dentists.

I just know if I left my car in to be fixed, I'd expect to be told the amount it'll cost roughly to repair before the service was carried out.

All Dentists are required to have price lists displayed, most have websites, at €1100 you are talking about a lot of fillings, root canal treatment, surgery or crowns/bridgework, all of which are unlikely to be done the first day you visit the clinic, so chances are you were made aware of the treatment plan prior to that 2 hr appointment, the prices are there for you to see.

Esse85

Dav010 wrote: »

All Dentists are required to have price lists displayed, most have websites, at €1100 you are talking about a lot of fillings, root canal treatment, surgery or crowns/bridgework, all of which are unlikely to be done the first day you visit the clinic, so chances are you were made aware of the treatment plan prior to that 2 hr appointment, the prices are there for you to see.

I didn't see any prices displayed inside and just checked the website there and no prices up.

I'd RCT and something else completed within the two hours I was there.

I was aware of the RCT procedure, not aware of the other €300 that went with it.

Again I should of asked beforehand but like I said, you'd expect to be told how much when the cost is that amount.

Charging €22 PPE on top of already high prices like that is a joke.
Worse so for the poster above who got a filling and had to pay it. An extra 15%
And adding it to the price afterwards, not mentioning it before hand is really sneaky.
Seems it wasn't just the dentist practice I attended doing so.

OU812

Esse85 wrote: »

Charging €22 PPE on top of already high prices like that is a joke.
Worse so for the poster above who got a filling and had to pay it. An extra 15%
And adding it to the price afterwards, not mentioning it before hand is really sneaky.
Seems it wasn't just the dentist practice I attended doing so.

I was made aware of it beforehand.

My dentist's receptionist called me to book my appointment (I'd been in contact when they were closed as the trouble started then). they called me the day they were back to book me in for that week, told me about the charge & then processed it in advance of my appointment.

My dentist also displays their prices in the waiting room, reception & surgery

Rodney Bathgate

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some Hairdressers are also charging for PPE and extra cleaning.

Didn’t think hairdressers were even supposed to be working?

punisher5112

I'd definitely recommend shopping around.

Seems excessive and €140 for a filling is very high.

Esse85

Esse85 wrote: »

I didn't see any prices displayed inside and just checked the website there and no prices up.

I'd RCT and something else completed within the two hours I was there.

I was aware of the RCT procedure, not aware of the other €300 that went with it.

Again I should of asked beforehand but like I said, you'd expect to be told how much when the cost is that amount.

Charging €22 PPE on top of already high prices like that is a joke.
Worse so for the poster above who got a filling and had to pay it. An extra 15%
And adding it to the price afterwards, not mentioning it before hand is really sneaky.
Seems it wasn't just the dentist practice I attended doing so.

It’s not a joke, PPE is now an requirement for dental treatment, and as the cost of providing it has gone up, like every other service provider, charges will go up.

I think you are right to be annoyed, you should have been told without having to ask, perhaps a phone call to the Clinic may result in at least an apology, possibly a partial refund.

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seems excessive and €140 for a filling is very high.

How do you know this without know what type/size/location etc of filling it is?

MarkR

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Didn’t think hairdressers were even supposed to be working?

They're not. That's some cheek, isn't it?

punisher5112

Dav010 wrote: »

How do you know this without know what type/size/location etc of filling it is?

Said seems, if it's a fairly ordinary one it does sound expensive.

jrosen

I had my son at the dentist the other day (Ortho) and we had no charge for PPE nor was he made wear any. I was with him and I didnt wear any either.

jimmycrackcorm

Dav010 wrote: »

Average cost of PPE per patient is €25. Gowns, FFP2 masks etc x 2 (dentist and assistant). This will be the norm until a vaccine is found.

I'm sure there's a nice bit of profit margin added into that price.
It's not even as if dentists can get discounted bulk buy prices now is it?

Rodney Bathgate

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Didn’t think hairdressers were even supposed to be working?

They’re not. Some have sent out emails to their clients outlining new charges and appointment system.

jrosen

jrosen wrote: »

I had my son at the dentist the other day (Ortho) and we had no charge for PPE nor was he made wear any. I was with him and I didnt wear any either.

Orthodontists don’t usually perform aerosol generating procedures.

nigeldaniel

well, I will be going for a check-up + scale and polish on Monday and have been quoted €80 No mention of a PPE charge...Yet.

jimmycrackcorm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I'm sure there's a nice bit of profit margin added into that price.
It's not even as if dentists can get discounted bulk buy prices now is it?

You would have to be living under a rock to not know it is very difficult to get supplies of PPE. Government departments all over the world are ordering them by the millions, but you think it is easy for a private dentist to get a few hundred, at a “discounted bulk buy price”? I’m still waiting on an order placed with a supplier mid April, and though I am not charging an additional fee at the moment, I most certainly will be when that order arrives as it is costing me thousands.

Esse85

Dav010 wrote: »

You would have to be living under a rock to not know it is very difficult to get supplies of PPE. Government departments all over the world are ordering them by the millions, but you think it is easy for a private dentist to get a few hundred, at a “discounted bulk buy price”? I’m still waiting on an order placed with a supplier mid April, and though I am not charging an additional fee at the moment, I most certainly will be when that order arrives as it is costing me thousands.

At €1100 for 2 hours work, then charging €22 for PPE without informing the customer beforehand, that's taking the bloody biscuit. Pure greed.

screamer

I think a lot of service providers will be out to claw back lost earnings. 25 quid for Ppe..... rip off, especially given that dentists already wore aprons masks gloves and goggles before coronavirus.
As for hairdressers, well adding 25 quid to my hair appointment they can keep it, I’ll keep doing my own hair.

punisher5112

Buy a roll of black bags, tape them around oneself would be much cheaper...

Minier81

I was at the dentist last week for a checkup on a tooth I was worried about, thankfully turned out to be nothing but I had a scale and polish when I was there. There was no extra charge for ppe. The dentist and hygienist/nurse both were in full ppe.

screamer

screamer wrote: »

I think a lot of service providers will be out to claw back lost earnings. 25 quid for Ppe..... rip off, especially given that dentists already wore aprons masks gloves and goggles before coronavirus.
As for hairdressers, well adding 25 quid to my hair appointment they can keep it, I’ll keep doing my own hair.

Prior to Covid, most dentists wore washable scrubs and surgical masks, now dentists and assistants have to wear disposable surgical gowns, FFP2/N95 masks, visors and equipment has to have extra barrier protection. If you can get these for less than €25, you will make a fortune selling them to dentists. Charging what it costs to buy them is a poor business model for clawing back lost earnings.

But look, if you don’t want to pay it, don’t, nobody is forcing you to go.

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

Buy a roll of black bags, tape them around oneself would be much cheaper...

And a very good look, or, you could keep your hands in your pockets and not breathe while you are in the Clinic.

Esse85

Esse85 wrote: »

At €1100 for 2 hours work, then charging €22 for PPE without informing the customer beforehand, that's taking the bloody biscuit. Pure greed.

If you wanted value for time taken, you should have had it out. Nobody is forced to have expensive treatment.

At €1100 for an RCT, I suspect we are talking about a Specialist Endodontist, it would also be very unusual to complete a RCT in one visit, it’s usually at least two.

Esse85

Dav010 wrote: »

If you wanted value for time taken, you should have had it out. Nobody is forced to have expensive treatment.

At €1100 for an RCT, I suspect we are talking about a Specialist Endodontist, it would also be very unusual to complete a RCT in one visit, it’s usually at least two.

I've repeatedly said I expected to be told the cost before the treatment is carried. I don't think that's an unreasonable ask, in fact I'd consider it ethical and good business pracyice especially when prices are not displayed on the website for one to research this info themselves.

I've answer this information already, if you read my posts you could of saved yourself the time writing that.

You suspect wrongly, because I already mentioned it wasn't just an RCT I got.

Might be unusual. It's unusual to have looting in the USA, it's unusual to experience COVID but it's happening. Same way the root canal was done in the one session.
Do you know all the factors at play to assume that such as the skill level and experience of the dentist, which tooth is involved, whether it's a first time or repeated RC on the that tooth?