Slave Trader Edward Colston's statue torn down in Bristol

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Pelosi has continued to remain silent on her own father’s decision to dedicate confederate statue's during his time as mayor of Baltimore . She actually attended the commemoration ceremonies of the Confederate statues with him.


Isn't that the new standard the left holds everyone else to? As pathetic as it is.

na1

joe40 wrote: »

That just shows how pervasive and endemic slavery was in American history. No wonder racism is still so rampant in the US.

BTW: In the UK history the royal family and other noblemans are responsible for torture &deaths of millions of white people, mostly English & Irish.
They have much less black victims... Still they do BLM protests in UK.

ohnonotgmail

Christy42 wrote: »

He literally sought clarity from a green beret on how to respect the army.

But no. No matter how a black person protests it is the wrong way because we don't want to talk about those issues.

Please send your writings on the correct ways black people are allowed protest and hopefully they will follow them.

The entire kneeling thing comes from Kaep. So unless his was a show of subservience. The rest of them aren't.

by continuing to focus on the manner of the protest they can ignore any discussion on the substance of the protest. it is just a distraction tactic that is best ignored.

mick087

Happy4all wrote: »

3 dead at a BLM protest in Reading.

This is disturbing.

Yes looks like a serious incident.
We dont know if this was related to the march or a seperate incident.


Im sure more details will be available soon. No matter what, it's terrible waste of life. Sad.

2u2me

na1 wrote: »

BTW: In the UK history the royal family and other noblemans are responsible for torture &deaths of millions of white people, mostly English & Irish.
They have much less black victims... Still they do BLM protests in UK.

Certainly indentured servitude during serfdom wasn't pleasant.

Villeins in England for example weren't quite treated like slaves, but they weren't freemen either.

The majority of European peasants were villeins.
Because of the low social status of villeins, the term became derogatory.

• English: villain meaning scoundrel
• French: Vilain meaning Ugly
• Italian: Villano means rude

Of course you had cotters and vagabonds as well with even less social status.

Serf, from the Latin servus, meaning "slave".

joe40

na1 wrote: »

BTW: In the UK history the royal family and other noblemans are responsible for torture &deaths of millions of white people, mostly English & Irish.
They have much less black victims... Still they do BLM protests in UK.

So should black people not protest because Irish people don't protest anymore.

We did our protesting over many years with countless uprisings, riots and armed struggle. That war is over. The GFA has put an end to continued fighting, and largely done away with the secterianism that plagued the north.

BLM do not consider their struggle for equality to be over.

Their protests are nowhere near as violent as ours were.

sid waddell

The word is that this incident could, and I stress could, be related to a coffee meeting for the local crown green bowls club in Reading today.

The meeting finished just an hour before the incident took place and the bowls club is right beside the park.

na1

joe40 wrote: »

We did our protesting over many years with countless uprisings, riots and armed struggle. That war is over.

Was Irish war of independence a protest against slavery or discrimination?
I didn't know that!
BTW: the war is not over:

Liz is still visiting her former slaves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_visit_of_Elizabeth_II_to_the_Republic_of_Ireland
With the streets were blocked and only 'selected' slaves were allowed to approach her.

joe40 wrote: »

BLM do not consider their struggle for equality to be over.

Do blacks have less rights in UK or what?

joe40

na1 wrote: »

Was Irish war of independence a protest against slavery or discrimination?
I didn't know that!
BTW: the war is not over:

Liz is still visiting her former slaves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_visit_of_Elizabeth_II_to_the_Republic_of_Ireland
With the streets were blocked and only 'selected' slaves were allowed to approach her.



Do blacks have less rights in UK or what?

The war isn't over? What do you mean?

The IRA have ceased all actions and decommissioned weapons 20 years ago. Of course the war is over.

na1

joe40 wrote: »

The war isn't over? What do you mean?

The IRA have ceased all actions and decommissioned weapons 20 years ago. Of course the war is over.

The IRA was fighting against slavery & discrimination?
I thought they were fighting for Irish independence from Britts?
Nationalists != Socialists

joe40

na1 wrote: »

The IRA was fighting against slavery & discrimination?
I thought they were fighting for Irish independence from Britts?
Nationalists != Socialists

Listen, it was you who said "the war" wasn't over.
It was you who brought Irish deaths into this discussion.

I never said anything about IRA fighting against slavery.

And what does nationalist = socialist even mean.

Cupatae

Christy42 wrote: »

He literally sought clarity from a green beret on how to respect the army.

But no. No matter how a black person protests it is the wrong way because we don't want to talk about those issues.

Please send your writings on the correct ways black people are allowed protest and hopefully they will follow them.

The entire kneeling thing comes from Kaep. So unless his was a show of subservience. The rest of them aren't.

I dunno if your talking about the same thing as the rest of us we are talking about crowds of white people being asked to kneel to black people.. to ironically end racism...

Black people will protest and use the race card more than anyone else they dont need any encouragement to voice issues. The main problem is you cant discuss the issues in a civil manner unless you concede all points, ull be labeled a racist ect Like most educated people know that blaming this mythical "White Privilege" for there struggles is a complete farce and basically made up.. but again this is unpopular and results in outrage.

The whole thing to any sane person, is ridiculous and hypocritical.. as a society we ve never had it better this is literally the best time to be alive but the way people go on... you wouldnt know that!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

na1 wrote: »

Do blacks have less rights in UK or what?

Racism =/= rights

George Floyd and Stephen Lawrence had the same rights as everyone else and still wound up being murdered.

joe40

Cupatae wrote: »

I dunno if your talking about the same thing as the rest of us we are talking about crowds of white people being asked to kneel to black people.. to ironically end racism...

Black people will protest and use the race card more than anyone else they dont need any encouragement to voice issues. The main problem is you cant discuss the issues in a civil manner unless you concede all points, ull be labeled a racist ect Like most educated people know that blaming this mythical "White Privilege" for there struggles is a complete farce and basically made up.. but again this is unpopular and results in outrage.

The whole thing to any sane person, is ridiculous and hypocritical.. as a society we ve never had it better this is literally the best time to be alive but the way people go on... you wouldnt know that!

So to "sane" people the idea is ridiculous. Therefore if I don't agree with you I must be Insane.

That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion.
But you have some nerve to then say the issue can't be discussed in a civil manner.
You are literally calling people who disagree with you insane or "not educated"

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cupatae wrote: »

I dunno if your talking about the same thing as the rest of us we are talking about crowds of white people being asked to kneel to black people.. to ironically end racism...

Eh, no....

"Crowds of white people...." - no, it's everyone. Black people are doing it as well.
"...being asked to kneel to black people" - wha..??? Kneeling TO someone....??

... we are most certainly not talking abotu the same thing. Not even close.

Black people will protest and use the race card more than anyone else they dont need any encouragement to voice issues. The main problem is you cant discuss the issues in a civil manner unless you concede all points, ull be labeled a racist ect Like most educated people know that blaming this mythical "White Privilege" for there struggles is a complete farce and basically made up.. but again this is unpopular and results in outrage.

"You can't discuss...."
You can. You have the right to discuss, what you evidently lack is the ability.

"... ull [sic] be labeled a racist..."
No, you'll be labeled a racist for making statements like "black people will use the race card more than anyone else".

The whole thing to any sane person, is ridiculous and hypocritical.. as a society we ve never had it better this is literally the best time to be alive but the way people go on... you wouldnt know that!

"We" probably never have - you're right - but then not all of us have it in the first place, now do we?

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The problem here is you don't believe racism is a problem because you've never experienced it. It's a bit like saying cancer isn't a dangerous illness because you don't have it.

Cupatae

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Eh, no....

"Crowds of white people...." - no, it's everyone. Black people are doing it as well.
"...being asked to kneel to black people" - wha..??? Kneeling TO someone....??

... we are most certainly not talking abotu the same thing. Not even close.



"You can't discuss...."
You can. You have the right to discuss, what you evidently lack is the ability.

"... ull [sic] be labeled a racist..."
No, you'll be labeled a racist for making statements like "black people will use the race card more than anyone else".



"We" probably never have - you're right - but then not all of us have it in the first place, now do we?

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The problem here is you don't believe racism is a problem because you've never experienced it. It's a bit like saying cancer isn't a dangerous illness because you don't have it.

Utter nonsense, as bad as the last poster, its racist to say black people use the race card or is it the uncomfortable truth?

Its socially acceptable to bang on about white privilege and bang on about how every white person has it so easy... all in the ironic quest to end racism, Can you see how its all abit hypocritical?

Infact the whole issue at the start was never about racism... theres no evidence at all for it... it was a cop murdering someone it had nothing to do with race, till BLM and SJW made it about race... but again another uncomfortable truth.

Before you bring up black people being killed by cops... in an attempt to spin it as racism... which seems to be the standard.

A) its cops and law enforcement thats a problem
its black people committing way too much crime..
C) More white people are killed every year by cops than anyone else, but it just doesnt get the SJW going or the media frenzy.

Cupatae

joe40 wrote: »

So to "sane" people the idea is ridiculous. Therefore if I don't agree with you I must be Insane.

That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion.
But you have some nerve to then say the issue can't be discussed in a civil manner.
You are literally calling people who disagree with you insane or "not educated"

Dont be ridiculous and trying to get offended you know what i meant.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cupatae wrote: »

Utter nonsense, as bad as the last poster, its racist to say black people use the race card or is it the uncomfortable truth?

No it's not, but it will get you labeled as such. I was very clear with my wording.

When you begin a sentence with "black people...." and then finish it with a generalisation, you're stereotyping and while not out and out racism, it's a step in that direction.

Infact the whole issue at the start was never about racism... theres no evidence at all for it... it was a cop murdering someone it had nothing to do with race, till BLM and SJW made it about race... but again another uncomfortable truth.

Before you bring up black people being killed by cops... in an attempt to spin it as racism... which seems to be the standard.

A) its cops and law enforcement thats a problem
its black people committing way too much crime..
C) More white people are killed every year by cops than anyone else, but it just doesnt get the SJW going or the media frenzy.

A) - I totally agree with you
- That actually IS a racist statement
C) - Per capita or generally?

Cupatae

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

No it's not, but it will get you labeled as such. I was very clear with my wording.

When you begin a sentence with "black people...." and then finish it with a generalisation, you're stereotyping and while not out and out racism, it's a step in that direction.



A) - I totally agree with you
- That actually IS a racist statement
C) - Per capita or generally?

Black people make up 13 or 14% of the population yet are responsible for 52% of homicides, if i cant use the words black people to get my point across is there more socially acceptable words or maybe less offense than "black people" Its hard to discuss something if you cant use accurate words.

Is it racist even if its true? is it racist or a fact then? hows it work?

You can see how it'd be abit difficult to discuss this...

So is it racist to say all white people are privileged and get by on there skin color? or is that another double standard...the selective outrage is abit confusing.

Cupatae

How many of you supporting BLM tho will take responsibility ?? thats the real question! :pac:

Notice there all white...

The worlds gone mad!

Manic Moran

The chap in the group of counter-protestors in Albuquerque, NM, who showed up to protect a statue, and ended up shooting a man has had the charges relating to the shooting dropped. Charges of carrying a weapon without a permit remain.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cupatae wrote: »

Black people make up 13 or 14% of the population yet are responsible for 52% of homicides, if i cant use the words black people to get my point across is there more socially acceptable words or maybe less offense than "black people" Its hard to discuss something if you cant use accurate words.

12% of homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Is it racist even if its true? is it racist or a fact then? hows it work?

You can see how it'd be abit difficult to discuss this...

Depends on what the statement is based on.

A scientist stating a fact based on empirical evidence is not racist.
A person taking a total guess is racist.
- if said person is not making the statement based on evidence, then what are they basing it on?

So is it racist to say all white people are privileged and get by on there skin color? or is that another double standard...the selective outrage is abit confusing.

Yep.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

12% of homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

How did you get 12% from that?

malinheader

Cupatae wrote: »

How many of you supporting BLM tho will take responsibility ?? thats the real question! :pac:

Notice there all white...

The worlds gone mad!

Sure has. And anyone trying to defend supporting these nutters whose agenda is scrapping the police force, fighting capitalism and abolishing prisons are truly mad.
Political correctness bull**** means you can not say it as it is anymore because you might actually be telling the truth that a certain group doesn't like.

Danzy

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

12% of homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls



Depends on what the statement is based on.

A scientist stating a fact based on empirical evidence is not racist.
A person taking a total guess is racist.
- if said person is not making the statement based on evidence, then what are they basing it on?



Yep.

12%, ffs.

2u2me

Christy42 wrote: »

The entire kneeling thing comes from Kaep. So unless his was a show of subservience. The rest of them aren't.

Apparently this cop refused to kneel. How dare he. They blow smoke in his face, could be trasmitting corona virus also, also shine lasers in his eyes as well as verbally assault him.
They want subservience.

https://twitter.com/DarrenPlymouth/status/1274233550867488768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1274233550867488768&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F492452-police-officers-calm-protesters%2F

Why would a police officer in Plymouth be expected to kneel?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

How did you get 12% from that?

total 3005, black offender 409 (actually abotu 17%, my maths was never great)

You will, of course, be asking cupatae how he got his 52%, correct?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

total 3005, black offender 409 (actually abotu 17%, my maths was never great)

You will, of course, be asking cupatae how he got his 52%, correct?

You're only looking at the numbers of white people killed for some reason. Do black lives not matter?

joe40

Cupatae wrote: »

Dont be ridiculous and trying to get offended you know what i meant.

It's very clear what you mean. All sane people agree with your position. Your own words.

Then you say the topic can't be discussed in a civil manner.

Work away sir, I'm fed up this conversation.

You can't engage in a civil manner unless I fully agree with your position.