Slave Trader Edward Colston's statue torn down in Bristol

Tony EH

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

I am not sure what you mean by the left.

There is no left in America.

The political sphere in the States is dominated by flavours of Neo-Liberalism. Both parties aren't that far apart on most issues and both are completely wedded to Wall Street.

The Democratic Party may be called "the left" by the Republicans, but that's just a simplistic name calling, used by the Republicans, because America has such a bottom feeding idea of what the left actually is.

The majority of Americans believe that left means Communist Russia, and that's where things end for them. Which makes about as much sense as thinking that right means Nazi Germany. So, the Republicans use "the left" as a catch all and the more simple minded of their followers yell along.

But, in the political reality of America, calling the Democrats the left is absolutely fucking hilarious, when any self respecting left leaning individual would consider them the centre by any other yardstick. Liberalism, as practised in the States, isn't the left, not there or anywhere else in the world and the candidates that the DNC favour and put forward would be considered the Conservative ticket in any country outside of that silly nation.

Hilary Clinton isn't left wing. Joe Biden isn't left wing and if the DNC were so lefty, they'd be all over the likes of Tulsy Gabbard who they've attacked, or Bernie Sanders, who they scuppered not once, but TWICE, in five years.

There may be left leaning citizens to various degrees and on various topics in America, but there's zero representation for them in the political arena. American politics is merely Team A and Team B, and most of the time their supporters a more in favour of simply keeping out the other side.

Cupatae

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

If you didn't know, then why make the statement?

Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to make a statement and then find out whether or not it's true...?




Dunno...? WHat do you mean?

I obviously did know because i made the statement? i didn't have a sudden epiphany that black people made up 14-15% of the pop and 52% homicide rate your logic is honestly baffling... you ve been corrected multiple times by multiple posters but you're still trying to argue you are right

Cupatae

JoeCasey wrote: »

In solidarity with slaves everywhere i've thrown out all my Greek yoghurt.

Now kneel in front of the next black person u meet and apologize. #TakeResponsibility :D

2u2me

The drunken rantings of a madman, vaguely amusing.

"Say what you fcking mean, dckheads"

Cupatae

2u2me wrote: »

The drunken rantings of a madman, vaguely amusing.

:D

reparations for all the peaceful arson :pac:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Cupatae wrote: »

I obviously did know because i made the statement? i didn't have a sudden epiphany that black people made up 14-15% of the pop and 52% homicide rate your logic is honestly baffling... you ve been corrected multiple times by multiple posters but you're still trying to argue you are right

You didn't know when you made the statement, you got it wrong. You know this.

You also know that your statement was NOT based on fact - the fact only came ot light after - it was based on assumption, it was racist.

You know this, I know this, no other posters are involved - we're going around in circles. Good night.

Cupatae

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You didn't know when you made the statement, you got it wrong. You know this.

You also know that your statement was NOT based on fact - the fact only came ot light after - it was based on assumption, it was racist.

You know this, I know this, no other posters are involved - we're going around in circles. Good night.

I didn't know that the statistics I posted to back up my point were right ? How can I get it wrong after the fact if I was the first person to post it

Now I'm racist for posting a fact... You are devoid of all logic at this point.. you certainly are going in circles after being forced to concede the point that I provided proof and several other posters had to painstakingly highlight you were in fact the only one wrong..

There's no shame in being wrong, trying to twist stuff in a desperate attempt to save face however... Pretty lame. And calling someone racist after being proven incorrect about it is worse.

dwayneshintzy

Cupatae wrote: »

The protests in the UK are nonsense the UK abolished slavery, black people are equal there and are just bandwagoners and thugs looking to do damage, the Irish guy that got stabbed in cork because of it and other attacks , no I don't think I'll support this form of organised scum .

BLM more racist than anyone else only they get the moral high ground and backing of all the Twitter Facebook insta snowflakes who love a good old issue to rally behind even if they haven't a clue

You've previously posted outright racism in this thread such as this, Cupatae. You're also banned from other threads on Boards for racist/trolling comments.

dwayneshintzy

Based on your comment history (what I've just quoted being an example), and your behavior in other threads (such as the thread for George Floyd, where you are banned), I don't think it's unreasonable to call out your thoughts as racist.

robinph

The police have released some photos of people they would like to speak to:

BBC News - Appeal to identify Edward Colston statue protesters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-53108898

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/police-hunt-18-people-over-4245420

The council had to report it, the police have to now investigate it. Don't expect anything more than a fine or few hours community service for whoever brought the ropes along. Anything more than that will just cause more problems, and anything less will cause another set of problems.

Pa ElGrande

When are the status of Marx and Engels coming down?

robinph

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

When are the status of Marx and Engels coming down?

Dunno? Have you started a campaign to have them removed? Do they have statues up telling a city about how awesome they were? Is there a city with a large number of is buildings, streets and a number of schools named after them?

1800_Ladladlad

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Miguel de Cervantes, the author of Don Quixote, was a slave himself. He wrote extensively about his life among Christian slaves in Algiers in his play Trato de Argel. The Taliban at it again.

Cupatae

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Based on your comment history (what I've just quoted being an example), and your behavior in other threads (such as the thread for George Floyd, where you are banned), I don't think it's unreasonable to call out your thoughts as racist.

You can call it what ever you like but the fact remains that what i said are facts and facts cant be racist nor do they care for your emotions.

You can try muddy the waters by bringing up other threads in a desperate attempt to deflect but again it wont change the fact that black people make up a minority of the population but are responsible for a disproportional amount of crime.

Its obviously an uncomfortable truth for staunch BLM followers but its the truth none the less, and it shows how pathetic the counter arguement is when rather than attack the facts you attack the poster. (ie. anyone that doesn't concede all points to BLM must be racist right!)

But i expect nothing less..from a mob, thats idea of ending racism is banning a dog on paw patrol and changing the coco pops monkey logo... while banging on about the big bad white man and the mythical white privilege.

Cupatae

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

You've previously posted outright racism in this thread such as this, Cupatae. You're also banned from other threads on Boards for racist/trolling comments.

also you found this racist ? "The protests in the UK are nonsense the UK abolished slavery, black people are equal there"

mick087

robinph wrote: »

The police have released some photos of people they would like to speak to:

BBC News - Appeal to identify Edward Colston statue protesters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-53108898

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/police-hunt-18-people-over-4245420

The council had to report it, the police have to now investigate it. Don't expect anything more than a fine or few hours community service for whoever brought the ropes along. Anything more than that will just cause more problems, and anything less will cause another set of problems.

About time, we need to know who these people are?
Sometimes you do need to take direct action because its the only way to change things. But when you do you must stand up and explain yourself.


The statue should of been delt with a long time ago and was not. So a group of young people pulled it down, fair enough they are angered by this statue and they do have a point about pulling it down. But you must stand up and take reasonability for these actions. You must tell us who you are why you done this?

na1

joe40 wrote: »

Listen, it was you who said "the war" wasn't over.
It was you who brought Irish deaths into this discussion.

I never said anything about IRA fighting against slavery.

And what does nationalist = socialist even mean.

You brought the word 'war' in the first place.

I was not talking about Irish nation exclusively, I was talking about ALL white slaves used during the British empire times.
The damage done to the millions of people were never apologized, and the money/property that the royal family owns is still owned by them. The money made from murders & tortures.

na1

robinph wrote: »

The council had to report it, the police have to now investigate it. Don't expect anything more than a fine or few hours community service for whoever brought the ropes along. Anything more than that will just cause more problems, and anything less will cause another set of problems.

Cut their dole off.

na1

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Racism =/= rights

George Floyd and Stephen Lawrence had the same rights as everyone else and still wound up being murdered.

Proof please?

If you point a gun at a pregnant woman - you're expected to be punished regardless of your race

If you take the gun from a cop and attack him - you're expected to be punished regardless of your race

Do you have any proof of the racial bias?

ohnonotgmail

na1 wrote: »

Proof please?

If you point a gun at a pregnant woman - you're expected to be punished regardless of your race

If you take the gun from a cop and attack him - you're expected to be punished regardless of your race

Do you have any proof of the racial bias?

cops are not supposed to "punish" people by shooting them in the back.

mick087

na1 wrote: »

Cut their dole off.

I have a feeling i could be wrong, but these will not be claiming the dole.
Could be a case Mommy and Daddy pay for a excellent legal team.

Cupatae

na1 wrote: »

Proof please?

If you point a gun at a pregnant woman - you're expected to be punished regardless of your race

If you take the gun from a cop and attack him - you're expected to be punished regardless of your race

Do you have any proof of the racial bias?

They are trying to drive a narrative, a narrative that simply doesnt stand up to facts and logic.

But they dont care about facts and logic all they care about is screaming the system is racist,posting black squares on social media and removing the police dog from paw patrol :pac::D ect ect

All this is easily refuted with statistics of course but dont let the truth get in the way!

Cupatae

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

cops are not supposed to "punish" people by shooting them in the back.

The point was where was the racial bias in those scenarios? the answer is there was none.

Until BLM hijacked the situation and inserted racism into the fray.

Nermal

robinph wrote: »

Don't expect anything more than a fine or few hours community service for whoever brought the ropes along.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bristol/comments/h846ut/spotted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

'Don't snitch'.

Total scum.

RWCNT

Nermal wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/bristol/comments/h846ut/spotted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

'Don't snitch'.

Total scum.

Oddly strong reaction.

mick087

Nermal wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/bristol/comments/h846ut/spotted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

'Don't snitch'.

Total scum.

Nobody likes a snitch :pac:

na1

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

cops are not supposed to "punish" people by shooting them in the back.

The US cops do kill the armed attackers, and they DO have rights to do so.

If you don't like it, complain to the State authorities.

ohnonotgmail

na1 wrote: »

The US cops do kill the armed attackers, and they DO have rights to do so.

If you don't like it, complain to the State authorities.

its ok the local DA is already on the case

Nermal

mick087 wrote: »

Nobody likes a snitch :pac:

An attitude for the playground. In real life, an attitude that protects and fosters criminality.

mick087

Nermal wrote: »

An attitude for the playground. In real life, an attitude that protects and fosters criminality.

Your right in that it does protects and fosters criminality but on a much larger scale than that of a statue being pulled down.

Depending on age social upbringing, education, job, profession, if you tell on someone for doing something they shouldnt of done your be called one of the following.

01 A grass
02 Being unprofessional