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BLM Manifesto Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    They ask for some reasonable things and then throw in as much insane requests as they can.

    Just so they can not achieve them and can keep going.

    Getting what they want is the worst thing that could happen to them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Latest demands from seattles protesters, some seem abit dare i say racist. Dont know how they will retrial offenders since they want to abolish the court system, not the sharpest tools in the box it must be said.

    Given the historical moment, we’ll begin with our demands pertaining to the Justice System.
    1. The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle.

    2. In the transitionary period between now and the dismantlement of the Seattle Police Department, we demand that the use of armed force be banned entirely. No guns, no batons, no riot shields, no chemical weapons, especially against those exercising their First Amendment right as Americans to protest.

    7. We demand a retrial of all People in Color currently serving a prison sentence for violent crime, by a jury of their peers in their community.

    13. We demand the abolition of imprisonment, generally speaking, but especially the abolition of both youth prisons and privately-owned, for-profit prisons.

    We also have economic demands that must be addressed.
    3. We demand free college for the people of the state of Washington, due to the overwhelming effect that education has on economic success, and the correlated overwhelming impact of poverty on people of color, as a form of reparations for the treatment of Black people in this state and country.

    Related to economic demands, we also have demands pertaining to what we would formally call “Health and Human Services.”
    1. We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Latest demands from seattles protesters, some seem abit dare i say racist. Dont know how they will retrial offenders since they want to abolish the court system, not the sharpest tools in the box it must be said.

    Given the historical moment, we’ll begin with our demands pertaining to the Justice System.
    1. The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle.

    2. In the transitionary period between now and the dismantlement of the Seattle Police Department, we demand that the use of armed force be banned entirely. No guns, no batons, no riot shields, no chemical weapons, especially against those exercising their First Amendment right as Americans to protest.

    7. We demand a retrial of all People in Color currently serving a prison sentence for violent crime, by a jury of their peers in their community.

    13. We demand the abolition of imprisonment, generally speaking, but especially the abolition of both youth prisons and privately-owned, for-profit prisons.

    We also have economic demands that must be addressed.
    3. We demand free college for the people of the state of Washington, due to the overwhelming effect that education has on economic success, and the correlated overwhelming impact of poverty on people of color, as a form of reparations for the treatment of Black people in this state and country.

    Related to economic demands, we also have demands pertaining to what we would formally call “Health and Human Services.”
    1. We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients.

    Is that not essentially "we demand to be free to commit as many crimes as we want, without the fear of repercussions"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Someone really needs to put a stop to this blm madness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Is that not essentially "we demand to be free to commit as many crimes as we want, without the fear of repercussions"
    The gangs would take over the area, then WWIII would break out between them as they fight for control and territory. It would be a nightmare for the public.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Someone really needs to put a stop to this blm madness.
    But anyone that speaks up against it is instantly labelled a racist.

    Just as anyone who calls out Israel's heavy handed tactics against Palestinians is an anti-semite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    Beasty wrote: »
    That is not a "Manifesto" for "Black Lives Matter"

    It's a Manifesto for The "Movement for Black Lives" ("M4BL")- which seems to be an organisation that is independent of BLM

    Id say its very much in the territory of the People's Front of Judea


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    paw patrol wrote: »
    The family is the cornerstone of western society.

    Rich western societies have the highest rates of divorce in the world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It used to be racism to treat people differently because of the colour of their skin.
    Now it's racist not too.

    Leftists, is there anything they can't do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,764 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Beasty wrote: »
    That is not a "Manifesto" for "Black Lives Matter"

    It's a Manifesto for The "Movement for Black Lives" ("M4BL")- which seems to be an organisation that is independent of BLM
    Yup. Guess the OP didn't read properly the topic of his outrage. Title and the content totally disconnected.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,005 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Latest demands from seattles protesters, some seem abit dare i say racist. Dont know how they will retrial offenders since they want to abolish the court system, not the sharpest tools in the box it must be said.

    Given the historical moment, we’ll begin with our demands pertaining to the Justice System.
    1. The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle. THat's a good one. No police, and take away pensions from good cops won't cause an outrage

    2. In the transitionary period between now and the dismantlement of the Seattle Police Department, we demand that the use of armed force be banned entirely. No guns, no batons, no riot shields, no chemical weapons, especially against those exercising their First Amendment right as Americans to protest. So if a citizen with a gun wants to kill a policeman, they've no defense. The no guns is fine in a gunless society, not in the US

    7. We demand a retrial of all People in Color currently serving a prison sentence for violent crime, by a jury of their peers in their community. Guess they're not paying the taxes for those retrials

    13. We demand the abolition of imprisonment, generally speaking, but especially the abolition of both youth prisons and privately-owned, for-profit prisons. For profit is grand, not youth

    We also have economic demands that must be addressed.
    3. We demand free college for the people of the state of Washington, due to the overwhelming effect that education has on economic success, and the correlated overwhelming impact of poverty on people of color, as a form of reparations for the treatment of Black people in this state and country. Guess they're not paying the taxes for that

    Related to economic demands, we also have demands pertaining to what we would formally call “Health and Human Services.”
    1. We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients.
    Do black people have different bodies that means a white doctor can't operate on them. If i'm going into surgery, I want the best doctor possible no matter the race, not one who only got there cos they're a minority

    Basically, the above demands are mostly crap


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,577 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Yup. Guess the OP didn't read properly the topic of his outrage. Title and the content totally disconnected.

    We've established there is no BLM "manifesto"

    Their current activities and racism are being discussed elsewhere in the forum (in a number of threads), and this thread simply causes confusion between different organisations and what their objectives are

    Thread closed


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