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Capitol Hill Autonous Zone! I LOVE IT! FREE CAPITOL HILL

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,761 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/ChazDaily/status/1273059462450798594

    One gets the impression they haven't thought this through fully.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    2 shootings last night 1 fatal. Rape also.

    https://twitter.com/omarisal/status/1274301877643968512?s=21


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    2 shootings last night 1 fatal. Rape also.

    https://twitter.com/omarisal/status/1274301877643968512?s=21

    I'd blame the cops!


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    na1 wrote: »
    I'd blame the cops!

    They came when they were called. All these people hating on them but when the **** hits the fan, the cops didn’t ignore their call.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    They came when they were called. All these people hating on them but when the **** hits the fan, the cops didn’t ignore their call.

    Adults taking care of grown children. Like children running away from home, only to pitch a duvet out the back, when reality hits; they want back in the house.


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    https://youtu.be/anQFFNNt6JY

    Go to about 12 mins through to around 29 mins. Scene where 1st body is then the police entering the zone. Police calm and get rounded on with everyone with their hands up shouting don’t shoot. Ironically, it wasn’t the cops that were shooting last night.

    About 40 mins into video is scene of second shooting. Loaded the guy into a white van.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Where the resident cheerleaders now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    2 shootings last night 1 fatal. Rape also.

    https://twitter.com/omarisal/status/1274301877643968512?s=21

    Only 1 rape this weekend , that's a reduction.

    It's gone south quicker than any one could imagine.

    Nothing like a corpse on the floor to make one grow up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Danzy wrote: »
    Only 1 rape this weekend , that's a reduction.

    It's gone south quicker than any one could imagine.

    Nothing like a corpse on the floor to make one grow up.

    Have they put out a description of the alleged rapist?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    na1 wrote: »
    I'd blame the cops!

    RAZ is the law now. Where have you been?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    I'm so proud.

    In response to police brutality residents have barricaded themselves into an autonomous zone where they are not allowing us cops to enter.

    Reminds me of #FREEDERRY When John Hume asked 1500 residents to barricade themselves in and not allow the RUC to enter.

    Above 2nd from the right. John Hume in Free Derry. Ireland's greatest Irish man can't be wrong lads! :)

    Proud? As though you personally are their leader or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    Danzy wrote: »
    Only 1 rape this weekend , that's a reduction.

    It's gone south quicker than any one could imagine.

    Nothing like a corpse on the floor to make one grow up.

    The end of CHOP/CHAZ.

    https://twitter.com/RazSimone/status/1274541843779252229


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    oh the irony.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://twitter.com/colinvsgravity/status/1274547407632699392?s=21


    And when the police came to assess the area they were ran out of the place!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 98 ✭✭Macytoby


    https://twitter.com/colinvsgravity/status/1274547407632699392?s=21


    And when the police came to assess the area they were ran out of the place!

    I love this ****. Autonomous until we need an adult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    https://twitter.com/colinvsgravity/status/1274547407632699392?s=21


    And when the police came to assess the area they were ran out of the place!

    It's incredible. While tragic the deaths are seeing it all crumble down is weirdly satisfying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    da_miser wrote: »
    Why no discussion of the CRAC?
    The edits are magnificent. We should all aspire to live in a society as egalitarian as the CHAZ.

    We will form a unique system called the Conflict Resolution Advisory Council.

    We hold a community democratic vote to appoint three people to the Council. To eliminate prejudice, we elect one Black man, one Black woman, and one white woman. Each person should undergo at least one 45 minute sensitivity and political training session which we can help organize.

    Whenever there is an internal conflict in the Zone, it will be put to the Council. Both people will have an opportunity to present their side of the story to the Council to review.

    The Council members will decide on a fair resolution and provide it as advice. Initially the Council will be advisory only. In the future the system could evolve to become more mature with binding resolutions, impositions, retribution, enforcement, and imprisonment.

    The appointed people will hear out and settle any internal disputes within the Zone. We're not suggesting that this Council members become leaders or judges, only referees in case of internal conflicts.

    Edit 1: After receiving feedback about inclusiveness we shall include in the council one Black man, one Black woman, one trans Black person, one non-binary Black person, and one white woman (5 4 people).

    Edit 2: On more feedback we will add to the Council 1 Asian non-male, 1 Native American non-male, and 1 Latinx non-male, and then 4 additional Black men and women to balance it out. In total there are 3 + 4 + 4 = 11 members.

    Edit 3: We've received some feedback about including disabledpersons (mental and physical) and homelesspersons on the Council. 20% or 40% of the Council should be persons with lived experience of disability. At least 10% should be experiencing involuntary homelessness.

    Edit 4: We realize LGBTQIA communities are being under-represented in the Council so far and are working on proposals to rectify this. The final composition of the balanced Council will likely include 10-50% people who identify as LGBTQIA.

    Edit 5: We have agreed to add 3 more seats, two of which are to give a voice to the disadvantaged LGBTQIA community, and one to give children equal representation and fairness. The new seats include one for a LGBTQI-identifying Black disabledperson, one for a LGBTQI-identifying Black homelessperson, and one for a non-white or mixed race child between the ages of 8 and 15.

    Edit 6: There have been further concerns raised over the efficacy of the Council to deal with disputes between children, as children are currently not adequately represented. In light of the feedback, we will add child safety training programs to the onboarding session and add one additional seat for another non-white or mixed race child between the ages of 8 and 15 (preferably disabled).
    The CRAC has been busy with a few more Edits to their rules.

    Edit 7: We’ve heard your concerns about the Asian non-male seat representing all Asian subgroups as if they are a monolithic identity. That wasn’t our intention. We will replace the Asian non-male seat with 12 mini-seats for each of the following Asian non-male identities: Chinese, Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Cambodian, Taiwanese, Malaysian, Mongolian, Okinawan, Singaporean, and wildcard (any Asian identity, except Korean-American). The mini-seats will collectively hold the voting power of one seat.

    That should end well.

    But wait, there’s more. Still not everyone has a seat at the table, including violent criminals.

    Edit 8: We’ve been told that our Council under-represents those with a criminal record or incarceration experience, as white culture allows people to suffer a particular disadvantage because of past convictions. The Council will mandate that more than 25% of its members must have a violent criminal history with previous or current incarceration experience.

    Not just a criminal history, but a violent criminal history. Because armed burglars should be in charge of things, obvs.

    What? We’re still not done with the difficult makeup of the Council?

    Edit 9: Some women have expressed to us that they wouldn’t feel comfortable presenting a case involving a sexual offence to a Council that is partly made up of criminals with a history of committing sexual offences. We are placing a cap of 50% on the proportion of Council members who have performed one or more premeditated sexual assaults or rapes in the preceding twelve months. Homelesspersons and disabledpersons are exempt from this cap.


    That seems prudent. You wouldn’t want more than 50% of the Conflict Resolution Council made up of rapists. Of course, homelesspersons and disabledpersons don’t count because it’s not their fault if they rape someone, apparently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Some observances from the CHAZ. Seems like what I've heard from friends living next to the area is true, it's typically Seattle 'open air James Taylor concert' feel, drum circles and dope smoking. The #IMPOTUS probably will turn to it as his rally was such a flop yesterday, got to stir up the foxbots.

    https://mynorthwest.com/1968926/observations-inside-seattles-chop/

    There might've been a right-wingnut shooting the place up last night, per the Stranger (fd: The Stranger is very lefty-wefty anti-everything). They reported the shooting and the locals transporting the victims to a nearby hospital, while blocking the police from entering.

    https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/06/20/43944133/one-dead-one-in-critical-condition-after-shooting-at-chop-at-220-am


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    da_miser wrote: »
    The CRAC has been busy with a few more Edits to their rules.

    Edit 7: We’ve heard your concerns about the Asian non-male seat representing all Asian subgroups as if they are a monolithic identity. That wasn’t our intention. We will replace the Asian non-male seat with 12 mini-seats for each of the following Asian non-male identities: Chinese, Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Cambodian, Taiwanese, Malaysian, Mongolian, Okinawan, Singaporean, and wildcard (any Asian identity, except Korean-American). The mini-seats will collectively hold the voting power of one seat.

    That should end well.

    But wait, there’s more. Still not everyone has a seat at the table, including violent criminals.

    Edit 8: We’ve been told that our Council under-represents those with a criminal record or incarceration experience, as white culture allows people to suffer a particular disadvantage because of past convictions. The Council will mandate that more than 25% of its members must have a violent criminal history with previous or current incarceration experience.

    Not just a criminal history, but a violent criminal history. Because armed burglars should be in charge of things, obvs.

    What? We’re still not done with the difficult makeup of the Council?

    Edit 9: Some women have expressed to us that they wouldn’t feel comfortable presenting a case involving a sexual offence to a Council that is partly made up of criminals with a history of committing sexual offences. We are placing a cap of 50% on the proportion of Council members who have performed one or more premeditated sexual assaults or rapes in the preceding twelve months. Homelesspersons and disabledpersons are exempt from this cap.


    That seems prudent. You wouldn’t want more than 50% of the Conflict Resolution Council made up of rapists. Of course, homelesspersons and disabledpersons don’t count because it’s not their fault if they rape someone, apparently.

    Please stop.

    You are making this up at this point.

    The above is just too funny and too bizarre to be true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    The Chaz has a a shooting, one dead, lefties fighting over who knows, the first thing that happens they ring 911, ask a "white Nazi organisation" to help, the Police/Ambulance cant get to the scene as they cant get past the Chaz border.
    I should not be laughing, but just cant help myself.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    da_miser wrote: »
    The Chaz has a a shooting, one dead, lefties fighting over who knows, the first thing that happens they ring 911, ask a "white Nazi organisation" to help, the Police/Ambulance cant get to the scene as they cant get past the Chaz border.
    I should not be laughing, but just cant help myself.

    Probably not, actually. Seems like the shooting resulted in the victims being taken to the hospital by the residents before the Cops arrived. But, feel free to laugh at whatever makes you happy, including the victim's death. Joy, joy for you


  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Please stop.

    You are making this up at this point.

    The above is just too funny and too bizarre to be true.

    Its true, and this is why Trump is doing nothing about them, ket them at it, they all but ensure he wins the election, who in their right mind would vote for the Dems who support this type on nonsense?


  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Seems like the shooting resulted in the victims being taken to the hospital by the residents before the Cops arrived.
    CHAZ border stopped EMS from getting to the scene in time.
    They want to be their own little country free from Nazi oppression, yet turn to the Nazis as soon as anything goes wrong, comedy gold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    da_miser wrote: »
    CHAZ border stopped EMS from getting to the scene in time.
    Funny, not what the Stranger and Seattle times reported. They're local. Where do you get your news?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,595 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    lord of the flies


  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Funny, not what the Stranger and Seattle times reported. They're local. Where do you get your news?

    Video of shooting and of EMS blocked from entering CHAZ is on twitter, a picture/Video is better than a reporter that may have a agenda, would you agree?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    da_miser wrote: »
    Video of shooting and of EMS blocked from entering CHAZ is on twitter, a picture/Video is better than a reporter that may have a agenda, would you agree?

    Generally, no. Twitter videos have a habit of being edited and quickly removed. Realize that there's some suspicion that the shooter was alt-right, which might cast doubt on some video sources on Twitter.

    A reporter on the ground observing and verifying is much more useful. I barely look at twitter, don't even have an account there.

    Can you provide the link you're using to verify that EMS was blocked? I agree that the cops were blocked, it's what was reported by the Times and the Stranger.


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    Igotadose wrote: »
    Probably not, actually. Seems like the shooting resulted in the victims being taken to the hospital by the residents before the Cops arrived. But, feel free to laugh at whatever makes you happy, including the victim's death. Joy, joy for you

    Th second victim wasn’t taken from the scene until roughly ten minutes after the cops were pushed out of the zone. The police ask is there anyone else injured and the guy doing the videoing tells them they have already been taken to the hospital.

    Then same camera man comes across someone being loaded into a white van which drives off with back doors open.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Every few years we get these left wing nutter groups setting up camps and going all "fight the power" on everyone and everything. The occupy movement a few years back is one example. Then these fools eventually grow up and go out into the world and get a job and realise how things work.

    Utter fools is all they are.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Seems it is gang related.


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