Leo says the Civil Service is 'very white'

James Brown

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Sick and tired of the anti white people sentiment out there now.

Calling attention to racism isn't anti-white. Thinking it's all about you or it's taking away your freedom to do and say things others deem racist might be a problem.

TheCitizen

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Sick and tired of the anti white people sentiment out there now.

Won’t somebody think of the white people

James Brown

Found it:

Speaking in the Dáil this afternoon, he said young people need to see “black and brown school principals, judges, cinn comhairle perhaps in the future”.

He said Ireland’s health service is “very diverse” but less so in senior positions.

Varadkar said the gardaí, the defence forces, and the education sector is far less diverse.

The civil service “is very white”, he added, stating “that actually needs to change”.

Dedicated recruitment campaigns are needed to ensure the workforce is more inclusive, Varadkar told the Dáil.
https://www.thejournal.ie/recruitment-targets-civil-service-leo-varadkar-5120369-Jun2020/

He worded it arseways, but I wouldn't hang him for it.

osarusan

The quote:

"One point I strongly agree with the Deputy on is the need to set a target to have a number of people from ethnic minorities in areas of the public service. We have a health service that is very diverse, although less so as one goes up towards the senior positions, not so much in the Garda, the Defence Forces, the education sector, as the Deputy mentioned, and not at all in the Civil Service, which is very white, including the Department of Justice and Equality, for example. That needs to change. We need to have a target for people who come from ethnic minority backgrounds but also dedicated recruitment campaigns to encourage people because we need to ensure that a generation of young people of colour growing up in Ireland see black and brown school principals, judges and perhaps Cinn Comhairle in the future. Who knows? Visibility and opportunity is very important."

Ninthlife

osarusan wrote: »

The quote:

Open competitions for positions in the Civil Service are exactly as stated Open... that means to anyone and everyone thwt meets the qualidying criteria.

There is no need to have seperate campaigns for ethnic groups. If someone of an ethnic group wants to be an EO or HEO in the Civil Service Im sure they can apply with everyone else

da_miser

anplaya27 wrote: »

True, an other minority group that is over looked is the Deaf community. Huge issues with unemployment and poverty due to lack of employment opportunities. Why cant they fix this problem ? Last I checked the majority of the Deaf community were Irish citizens too. But not surprisingly we are an afterthought.

White Irish, well there is your problem, you are well down the racist totem pole.

meeeeh

olestoepoke wrote: »

Over 30% of the PSNI are catholic. So the statement that ""police is only made up of protestants" is utter nonsense

I meant would be and that there was conscious drive to recruit from 'the other side'.

Bowie

Bowie wrote: »

Found it:



He worded it arseways, but I wouldn't hang him for it.

I would. It's a continuation of the push for multiculturalism, even though multiculturalism has consistently created severe social problems in every country it has been implemented in. Not in the short term, but definitely in the medium to long term.

It's a stupid thing to push, and only encourages division, because he's giving approval to minority activists to complain about racism, discrimination, etc regardless of the practical realities.

da_miser

osarusan wrote: »

The quote:

So jobs that usually go to people with years in the job should now go to BAME folk in the country a wet day, never mind that experience in said jobs was a requirement in previous years, your skin colour is all that matters now , and not a history of preforming well in said jobs.
Yep that sounds like a recipe for a successful country , talent not required, just the correct skin colour, sure whats the worst that could happen, a failed state?

Nesta2018

I'm astonished that with virtually no inward migration til the late 1990s, we are now down to 91% white Irish people. That's an incredibly rapid demographic change. But what figure will ever be enough? 80%? 60%? 30%?

punisher5112

It seems been white is a big no no in today's climate.

We should all move to Africa and move the same amount from there to here.....

Wtf is going on at all.

I'm not apologising to anyone for been a human being in the country I was born in and my ancestors before..... Yes I'm white and so is most of the people on this small island where we were for 100s of years before.

Mr. Karate

da_miser wrote: »

The highest office in the land is held by a BAME gay man, yet the Irish are being bombarded daily with propaganda that we are racist bigots with white privilege.
Come on folks, level with me whats the end game here?

Over half of the White Population in the US voted for Obama...twice. And somehow the Lefties bang the whites are racists war drums.

Rodney Bathgate

Nesta2018 wrote: »

I'm astonished that with virtually no inward migration til the late 1990s, we are now down to 91% white Irish people. That's an incredibly rapid demographic change. But what figure will ever be enough? 80%? 60%? 30%?

I think there are plans to bring in another million at least.

Feisar

jay0109 wrote: »

This is what the Media have been pushing the past week, using the BLM marches as the trojan horse. Quota's are coming and coming fast.

Admissions to college will no longer be solely based on CAO points. Civil Service exams and interviews will have targets to hit in minority appointments. Teacher numbers will have targets applied. Local Authorities will have direct appointments made.
Large (Woke) MNC's will follow suit or even lead the way with their hiring policies.

This was always going to happen once the borders were opened in the early noughties, it is the next step on the ladder for the Migration cheer leading NGO's and practically all our political parties will support this.

Are quota's not the most racist thing going?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

When did ‘white’ become acceptable as a pejorative? It’s been fomenting for a while and has taken off in the last few weeks. One of my friends (she’s white, her husband is white) is fully on board and is kind of alienating herself from the friend group. Last night on Whatsapp, we were discussing the pulling of supposedly contentious TV shows from Netflix and she said:

“Well, the creators might have wanted it so. Also, you, as a white, straight, cis, privileged person don’t get to decide what upsets minorities.”

All hell broke lose. We are a group of generally left-wing, liberal women and even we were all like “What the hell?”. I can’t quite put my finger on what pissed me off so much. There is so much to unpack in that statement. It’s patronising to minorities, it’s weirdly heterophobic and FUCK the term ‘cis’.

I very much doubt my friend would be okay with somebody telling her husband to shut up because he’s white, straight and western. So it also just comes across a bit phoney.

da_miser

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Over half of the White Population in the US voted for Obama...twice. And somehow the Lefties bang the whites are racists war drums.

Woke is a mental illness, hating on yourself over something you have no control over, your skin colour, pure madness.

Ninthlife

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

When did ‘white’ become acceptable as a pejorative? It’s been fomenting for a while and has taken off in the last few weeks. One of my friends (she’s white, her husband is white) is fully on board and is kind of alienating herself from the friend group. Last night on Whatsapp, we were discussing the pulling of supposedly contentious TV shows from Netflix and she said:

“Well, the creators might have wanted it so. Also, you, as a white, straight, cis, privileged person don’t get to decide what upsets minorities.”

All hell broke lose. We are a group of generally left-wing, liberal women and even we were all like “What the hell?”. I can’t quite put my finger on what pissed me off so much. There is so much to unpack in that statement. It’s patronising to minorities, it’s weirdly heterophobic and FUCK the term ‘cis’.

I very much doubt my friend would be okay with somebody telling her husband to shut up because he’s white, straight and western.

Why is it minorities are only allowed be upset?

Feisar

Feisar wrote: »

Are quota's not the most racist thing going?

It came in with the feminists pushing for gender equality, even though it's sexist... so little surprise it would be brought in, even though it's racist.

da_miser

Ninthlife wrote: »

Open competitions for positions in the Civil Service are exactly as stated Open... that means to anyone and everyone thwt meets the qualidying criteria.

There is no need to have seperate campaigns for ethnic groups. If someone of an ethnic group wants to be an EO or HEO in the Civil Service Im sure they can apply with everyone else

No BS, late last year i had to phone a Civil service department, the woman on the other end of the phone had a strong Spanish accent, did i care? NO , she was polite, efficient and sorted it out in a few minutes, thats what we call getting a job on Merit, imagine a country run totally like that, not on quotas but on talent.
Would a merit or quota based system be better, answer me that?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I very much doubt my friend would be okay with somebody telling her husband to shut up because he’s white, straight and western. So it also just comes across a bit phoney.

I think it's because there's a certain superiority complex to the people who speak that way (nose high in the air), and their need to virtue signal. They're enlightened, but the rest of us are ignorant barbarians...

Hamachi

Nesta2018 wrote: »

I'm astonished that with virtually no inward migration til the late 1990s, we are now down to 91% white Irish people. That's an incredibly rapid demographic change. But what figure will ever be enough? 80%? 60%? 30%?

The demographic change is even more stark than that figure. Looking at the latest census figures, white Irish people are down to 84% of the population. However, the total ‘white’ population is ~95%, with a further 9% originating from the EU, North America etc, and 1% from the traveling community.

Varadkar’s comments are reprehensible. What’s the endgame in all of this? To relegate us to a minority in our own country?

da_miser

Deleted User wrote: »

It came in with the feminists pushing for gender equality, even though it's sexist... so little surprise it would be brought in, even though it's racist.

And now its come back to haunt them.
Lesbians, Terfs, trannys all kinds of madness

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Ninthlife wrote: »

Why is it minorities are only allowed be upset?

Well, exactly. And also, offence is nobody else’s problem. I’ve found things offensive in my life and I realise that it’s just something I have to get over.

Banning things just breeds resentment. I better get back to finishing It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia. Its days are probably numbered too.

gmisk

Muahahaha wrote: »

I always liked the name of that civil servant who popped in the Disclosures Tribunal and the Frances Fitzgerald email affair- Chris Quattrociocchi

That sounds delicious!

Rodney Bathgate

Hamachi wrote: »

The demographic change is even more stark than that figure. Looking at the latest census figures, white Irish people are down to 84% of the population. However, the total ‘white’ population is ~95%, with a further 9% originating from the EU, North America etc, and 1% from the traveling community.

Varadkar’s comments are reprehensible. What’s the endgame in all of this? To relegate us to a minority in our own country?

Our own country? Black Africans have as much right (if not more right) to be here than you or I do.

Tea drinker

Akesh wrote: »

t a country, where over 91% of the population are white, has a civil service that is 'very white'.t.

It's a basic problem, either import more coloured people or deport some of the colourless people till the numbers make sense

Silentcorner

And Leo still hasn't learned why he had to suffer the humiliation of having to wait until the 6th count to get elected by his own constituents, why in his first election as leader, Fg got a hammering.

Fg need to get him off to whatever plum job he has his eye on because he may well do permanent damage to what is supposed to be a Conservative political party.

Mr. Karate

Hamachi wrote: »

The demographic change is even more stark than that figure. Looking at the latest census figures, white Irish people are down to 84% of the population. However, the total ‘white’ population is ~95%, with a further 9% originating from the EU, North America etc, and 1% from the traveling community.

Varadkar’s comments are reprehensible. What’s the endgame in all of this? To relegate us to a minority in our own country?

That is the endgame of this Multiculturalism scam. To make us Minorities in our own Countries.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

And Leo still hasn't learned why he had to suffer the humiliation of having to wait until the 6th count to get elected by his own constituents, why in his first election as leader, Fg got a hammering.

Fg need to get him off to whatever plum job he has his eye on because he may well do permanent damage to what is supposed to be a Conservative political party.

All of these parties are conservative when it comes to issues like recreational/medical cannabis, alcohol buying and other nanny state issues but by God they all sit on the left when it comes to law and order, welfare, immigration etc.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

I think it's because there's a certain superiority complex to the people who speak that way (nose high in the air), and their need to virtue signal. They're enlightened, but the rest of us are ignorant barbarians...

You’re half joking here but honestly, I think you are on the money. I suspect my (possibly former - eep) friend would think her husband speaking up is fine because he has the “right” opinions (I think he’s on board with all her views). An authoritarianism has crept into public discourse. As a liberal, I find that very... illiberal. And I think it is alienating people.