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Eamon Ryan and that word

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  • 11-06-2020 7:36pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 23,761 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1271056823714545664

    I don't see anything particularly wrong here and why the rest of the veg are in such a twist this evening. He was arguing against racism.

    If there is anyone in the Dáil who would not have a racist bone in their body it has to be Eamon Ryan.

    What you think?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    **** in his party quick to jump on the virtue signalling bandwagon. All allied to the contending leadership candidate, of course. Grubby politics, disappointing from the Greens


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Is he looking to lose the GP party leadership election so he doesn’t have to lead the party into government?


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no time for eamonn ryan and feel he is out of his depth,and completly out of touch


    But that was harmless and not worth raising controversy over,i v.much doubt eamonn ryan is a bigot


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy




    What you think?

    Catherine Martin at 7/4 to be the leader in 2021 is almost free cash as far as I can see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,692 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    What I find annoying is he was trying to highlight a case of racism , not the other way round, probably thought using the word would give the issue more emphasis - he made a mistake - he apologised - move on - but the easily offended are up in arms -
    Maybe I've been de-sensitised by listening to all that West coast Hip-Hop - and having actually lived in multi-cultural environment abroad and socialising and being actual friends of people from all different backgrounds.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,761 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Catherine Martin at 7/4 to be the leader in 2021 is almost free cash as far as I can see.

    Who?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    There is clearly a vocal, and seemingly quite sizable cohort in that party who didn't want him as leader long before this.

    Tweeting like mad with their "disgust" this evening.
    Shameless political opportunism in action imo.

    His speech may have been misguided. But to suggest the man is a bigot is a misrepresentation.

    Theres something inherently sanctimonious and dare I say smug about many in that party.
    I look forward to seeing their next adventure in coalition end as abruptly as their last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    He wasn't being racist. It's context. He was an idiot to use it though. Did he think people wouldn't know what the 'N' stood for?
    I think Catherine Martin's chances just improved.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    Don't see the problem with saying n!gger in a quote context but I'm quite happy to play along with the outrage mob to watch the Greens tear themselves apart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭gifted


    I detest the green party and have no time for that fruitcake ryan....but I don't like seeing a man being punished for that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The Irish are the blacks of Europe.
    And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland.
    And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin.
    So say it once and say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ne38vIELzNI

    He's happy to defend the indefensible


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭emo72


    He could have made his point as eloquently without using the N word.

    Can he not afford advisors?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,659 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    This really is a can of worms.

    I think in context it is fine to actually say the word.

    I find it strange to see a black teenager on the tv trying to make a point and seeing them say "a guy in the street called me the N word".

    Surely if anyone is allowed to actually utter the word it would be such a person trying to show how they are racially abused. The fact that even they are afraid to say it shows how silly it has all become.


  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭patsman07


    Was it bravery or stupidity? Surely he knew the reaction this would provoke?

    If he thinks it's a bit ridiculous/racist that white people can't use the word but black people can, then fair play.
    If he was ignorant of this then he's even more incompetent than I thought.

    It's not bigoted, racist or offensive to quote somebody, in my humble opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    Sometimes you see people not just shoot themselves in the foot but blow their entire leg off. Maria Bailey springs to mind, now this Eamon Ryan N-Word business. Do these people not have an iota of sense in their head or have they lost all touch with reality?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭double jobbing


    JK Rowling

    Graham Linehan

    Eamon Ryan


    Always satisfying to see some eejit be the wokest of the woke for years, then not read PC Quarterly and blurt out something outdated or inappropriate and proceed to be cannibalized by their own movement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    A browse of Twitter shows it is full of the usual virtue signalling **** this evening.

    Always the same geebags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Some of his bizzare rantings on climate change and environmental issues are a lot worse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Green party imploding?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    that tosser cllr peter kavanagh was on radio this evening , expressing his disgust towards ryan

    its now become a competition to see who is the most virtuous , even where absolutely no malice exists ( like here ) , the PC puritans call for their own salem witch trials

    the WOKE ayatollahs want even the meekest of the meek hung drawn and quartered


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Eamon is a loose cannon and an idiot. He isn't fit for government.

    He was useless around the time of the bank guarantee as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Ryan has many faults, his main one being his love of dipping his hand into workers salaries to fund stupid ideas. That said, his speech was heartfelt and genuine.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    biko wrote: »
    The Irish are the blacks of Europe.
    And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland.
    And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin.
    So say it once and say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud.

    What about the actual Blacks of Northside Dublin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭gifted


    Eamon is a loose cannon and an idiot. He isn't fit for government.

    He was useless around the time of the bank guarantee as well.

    He was downright irresponsible and should be held to account, as well as a lot of others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I really wonder if any of the critics actually heard the speech? Far too quick to focus on the N word out of context. But that’s the way now... be the first out of the starting blocks to get WOKE likes.

    I’m heartily sick of all this woke stuff now. But it’s fashionable I suppose.and there is not a MSM here that will point out the reality of what was said.

    I woul never vote Green BTW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,659 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I suppose 7% reduction in emissions is the least of his worries now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,343 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    No different than people on radio or tv using the f word (if describing something or someone that said it) when they don’t need to. Simple f word description will suffice. They deliberately try to be edgy and a bit controversial..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    I really wonder if any of the critics actually heard the speech? Far too quick to focus on the N word out of context. But that’s the way now... be the first out of the starting blocks to get WOKE likes.

    I’m heartily sick of all this woke stuff now. But it’s fashionable I suppose.and there is not a MSM here that will point out the reality of what was said.

    I woul never vote Green BTW.

    As someone said earlier, the most vocal politician are the ones who are backing Murphy for the party leadership. Purely coincidental of course.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I really wonder if any of the critics actually heard the speech? Far too quick to focus on the N word out of context. But that’s the way now... be the first out of the starting blocks to get WOKE likes.

    I’m heartily sick of all this woke stuff now. But it’s fashionable I suppose.and there is not a MSM here that will point out the reality of what was said.

    I woul never vote Green BTW.


    The question now is that clearly Eamon is a liability and keeps putting his foot in his mouth. It's embarrassing for the party.

    Catherine Martin doesn't really have to do much. Her chances of becoming leader are much better now.


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