Police Shooting USA. Rayshard Brooks.

Luxxis

declanflynn wrote: »

A drunk man with a taser running away is zero threat to 2 armed police officers, are u thick?

What about the people he might be running into?

declanflynn

froog wrote: »

he was running away with a non lethal weapon. the idea that he was plotting to incapacitate two cops, steal their guns and start killing people is ridiculous.

All he wanted to do was get a burger and go home to bed, people here think he was hell bent on going on a killing rampage

froog

question for the people defending the cop;

imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately.

are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?

Danzy

declanflynn wrote: »

A drunk man with a taser running away is zero threat to 2 armed police officers, are u thick?

Pity you weren't there to explain it to them all.

Tucked up in bed, given the time difference probably, if only you could reassure them the violent drunk who fought them stole a weapon wasn't pulling a gun.

You are very willing to sacrifice those working class guys from the safety of your leaba.

declanflynn

Luxxis wrote: »

What about the people he might be running into?

so he was out to kill everyone except the policemen he ran away from?

AbusesToilets

froog wrote: »

question for the people defending the cop;

imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately.

are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?

Don't resist arrest, don't punch cops, don't take their weapons and shoot at them.

Pretty simple recipe for how to avoid getting shot. The hoops folks are jumping through here to justify the actions of a pretty ****ty person are astounding.

declanflynn

Danzy wrote: »

Pity you weren't there to explain it to them all.

Tucked up in bed, given the time difference probably, if only you could reassure them the violent drunk who fought them stole a weapon wasn't pulling a gun.

You are very willing to sacrifice those working class guys from the safety of your leaba.

it was a taser gun not an atomic bomb he had

Luxxis

declanflynn wrote: »

so he was out to kill everyone except the policemen he ran away from?

You dont know his intentions, his state of mind, how said state of mind was after an altercation with the police. No one know what he might have done.

1800_Ladladlad

declanflynn wrote: »

All he wanted to do was get a burger and go home to bed, people here think he was hell bent on going on a killing rampage

and you asked another user if they were tick??

declanflynn

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

and you asked another user if they were tick?:cool:

same question to you

1800_Ladladlad

Danzy wrote: »

Pity you weren't there to explain it to them all.

Tucked up in bed, given the time difference probably, if only you could reassure them the violent drunk who fought them stole a weapon wasn't pulling a gun.

You are very willing to sacrifice those working class guys from the safety of your leaba.

Sure all he wanted to do was get a burger and go home to bed.

ronivek

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Don't resist arrest, don't punch cops, don't take their weapons and shoot at them.

Pretty simple recipe for how to avoid getting shot. The hoops folks are jumping through here to justify the actions of a pretty ****ty person are astounding.

From the guy who doesn't even answer the question he's quoting.

I don't think anyone is arguing about the guy being a ****ty person; they're arguing that shooting a running man who is armed with a taser is an excessive use of force.

You can start bringing other factors into it but that's the crux of it; the amount of force used against this man was disproportionate to the potential for harm if he was not shot at that precise moment.

declanflynn

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Sure all he wanted to do was get a burger and go home to bed.

why would he be at a Wendy's restaurant sherlock

froog

Luxxis wrote: »

You dont know his intentions, his state of mind, how said state of mind was after an altercation with the police. No one know what he might have done.

sure you might as well shoot dead every single person who breaks the law by that logic. that guy jaywalking, i dunno, i mean he could be off to kill someone, he's already broken one law right? kill him and we don't have to do actual policing.

brendanwalsh

He deserved to be shot.

Well done officers. They deserve to be reinstated.

Donald Trump

froog wrote: »

question for the people defending the cop;

imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately.

are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?

In the US, there is a far higher chance that the drunk fella will have a gun.


Even if he doesn't with a taser he can potentially take the policeman's gun.


I have never been near a row in Ireland where a drunk fella pulled a gun and started shooting it. But I was in the US. I didn't see it happen as I was 50m or so away but I heard the screaming and then shots and everyone started running. I read more about it on the news the next day. Nobody was killed but a couple of people were hit.

punisher5112

declanflynn, don't take kindly to name calling, I had the respect to not call you names.

Suppose shows you for who you really are....

Pity someone died but then cops wanted to go home alive that night and done their job well imo.

Danzy

declanflynn wrote: »

it was a taser gun not an atomic bomb he had

Like I said pity you weren't there but were safe in bed.

AbusesToilets

ronivek wrote: »

From the guy who doesn't even answer the question he's quoting.

I don't think anyone is arguing about the guy being a ****ty person; they're arguing that shooting a running man who is armed with a taser is an excessive use of force.

You can start bringing other factors into it but that's the crux of it; the amount of force used against this man was disproportionate to the potential for harm if he was not shot at that precise moment.

He attacked the police and took their weapon and used it against them. The officers were absolutely justified in using lethal force against him, and I imagine will likely win a wrongful dismissal lawsuit when it all shakes out.

declanflynn

punisher5112 wrote: »

declanflynn, don't take kindly to name calling, I had the respect to not call you names.

Suppose shows you for who you really are....

Pity someone died but then cops wanted to go home alive that night and done their job well imo.

They shot a guy dead while he was running away from them

froog

Donald Trump wrote: »

In the US, there is a far higher chance that the drunk fella will have a gun.


Even if he doesn't with a taser he can potentially take the policeman's gun.


I have never been near a row in Ireland where a drunk fella pulled a gun and started shooting it. But I was in the US. I didn't see it happen as I was 50m or so away but I heard the screaming and then shots and everyone started running. I read more about it on the news the next day. Nobody was killed but a couple of people were hit.

do you think if the guy in the US was white he would still have been shot dead?

perfectkama

froog wrote: »

question for the people defending the cop;

imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately.

are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?

armed unit not general police very unlikely to respond
America has many guns not like many other places
supermacs food is to good to burn it down

Luxxis

froog wrote: »

sure you might as well shoot dead every single person who breaks the law by that logic. that guy jaywalking, i dunno, i mean he could be off to kill someone, he's already broken one law right? kill him and we don't have to do actual policing.

Most people dont fight with the police then run away.

froog

AbusesToilets wrote: »

He attacked the police and took their weapon and used it against them. The officers were absolutely justified in using lethal force against him, and I imagine will likely win a wrongful dismissal lawsuit when it all shakes out.

what if it was a baton he stole and waved about? is shooting him dead still justified?

Danzy

froog wrote: »

do you think if the guy in the US was white he would still have been shot dead?

Statistical evidence shows us he would be more likely to be shot dead.

Luxxis

perfectkama wrote: »

armed unit not general police very unlikely to respond
America has many guns not like many other places
supermacs food is to good to burn it down

Fake news if I ever saw it

declanflynn

Danzy wrote: »

Like I said pity you weren't there but were safe in bed.

he was running away from them that's the opposite of running towards them

NotMOL

froog wrote: »

question for the people defending the cop;

imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately.

are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?

You are missing the point which has been made a million times ITT, Ireland and America are completely different when it comes to guns. Cops are regularly shot at and killed in America.

Also you and others defending him keeping leaving out the point were he was drunk behind the wheel, you make it seem like he was just having a nap outside the burger shop

punisher5112

declanflynn wrote: »

They shot a guy dead while he was running away from them

He was also using the taser against them in their policing duty, they were trying to catch the person they had placed under arrest....

What police force would they be if they let people run away and especially so with their equipment.

Luxxis

NotMOL wrote: »

You are missing the point which has been made a million times ITT, Ireland and America are completely different when it comes to guns. Cops are regularly shot at and killed in America.

Also you and others defending him keeping leaving out the point were he was drunk behind the wheel, you make it seem like he was just having a nap outside the burger shop

I'll add to that by saying if you dont want run in's with the cops, dont break the law.